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I guess I'm fine with that. It would be nice to have a backup sensory ability, but they're all pretty distinctive, huh?
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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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This may or may not be sufficient, but note that you can simply walk into the Leaf Private Library to see blanks for every seal that people were willing to share. It may be that you're looking for downloadable seals, however.
Are you thinking of Kagome's throwing disks? Those are wood with a paper seal attached. The wood is to give it the shape and heft to be thrown.
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We did not. Mostly due to the double severe consequences spooking people from doing any seal research
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Deadline is past, but hopefully this counts as a publicly available seal -- one that can be had for free.
I was talking about the carved seals that was in Akane's hospital window.
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I find it a bit hard to justify in character.
Akane has terrible deception so she isn't useful for the information gathering part of the mission since a good statted civilian will have her admitting she's a ninja on a secret mission. She's good at punching, but the only real punching that should happen on this mission is 1-3 heavily curated and carefully selected fights which should be more performative than genuinely challenging.
Also, I don't think Akane would want to be taken off the front line for an ill-suited mission because Hazou wants to keep her safe, that's her agency being compromised by Hazou again. Also also, we don't want Hazou accused of nepotism for proposing Akane without a really good justification, especially since I believe nepotism in Leaf usually looks more like getting ninja on the vanguard for the honor of it rather than on a relatively safe mission.
From a more meta perspective, I'm also concerned about the the allure of drama for the QMs of having Hazou need to pick between Akane's safety and someone else's on the mission. Otherwise, just based on rolls, for random fights she may get into on the border, the odds are in Akane's favor unless she confronts a Jonin, and she's got decent odds of surviving then too, especially if she's with Yuno. See the last fight with a surprise Jonin where they didn't even get injured.
As for why the Aburame, while they can't see through their bugs the bugs can still gather information and report it back to the Aburame, and they also can drain chakra if necessary to do a non-lethal takedown/weaken a stronger fighter non-obviously from a distance. The entire point of their special abilities is that bugs are stealthy and small.
While I'm loath to reference Naruto canon in this Quest without confirmation, the specially selected information gathering/tracking team was a Hyuuga, an Aburame, and an Inuzuka.
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Oh ok I missed that, so she wants us do it, that's fine then. Doesn't really change anything about this not being a good idea.
And:
"Nevertheless, if risks must be taken, it is only proper that I be the one to shoulder them, after everything I have done. Please feel free to socially interact with whom you will."
Isn't a good reasoning for doing this.
Is another possible political incident really helpful? The people who should interfere about the Condor slavery are the other Clan Bosses, not us. Or better, we only act if people like Enma think it's an ok idea. Your plan is asking a bunch of people about how to do it, so maybe it works, but us being involved is the problem in the first place. What exactly are we contributing? Because it's not her directly talking to Ruri? Asuma doesn't want to deal with this, but we do because it's what Kei thinks is a good idea?
And the Condors shouldn't be aware. If the Condors don't act the way the Pangolin expect them to act they will question whats going on, plenty of things that can lead to:
- Kill more civilians to draw them out.
- Question if the Condors found new allies (I am sure it's a great idea that the Dog Summoner is involved, don't worry about it)
- Try to find traitors.
If the Pangolin think that Kei is a "problem", even by accident, there is all kind of things they can do.
Best case scenario is that the Condors can minimize the damage to their troops by playing along. But were risking being dragged into a series of events that nobody of us can really predict. Ami and Shikamaru don't know that much about the 7th Path, Ruri is also new, and Kei doesn't really know what she is doing.
If people want to help the Condors we need to work with the other Clan Bosses, because even killing Panda could just end with most Condors getting murdered in response. Were not really helping by leaking information, Kei can't really lie to most Pangolin if they get suspicious.
And Leaf is still at war, Asuma wants both of them to function, if this goes bad then both of them could lose their status as summoners.
What are you talking about?
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Wait a minute. Those were probably surveillance seals, right? Depending on how they work, learning them could be a major step in creating communication seals, or even ARS (that's the one that activates at range, right?).
Surveillance seals at the very least must do something along the lines of recording and playing back sound, right? That's a major step in creating communication seals.
If they also transmit the sound for real-time spying it's even better, since that's basically the communication seal done for us already. It would also be a major veterancy bonus for creating ARS because of the ability to send information to another seal element that isn't in direct contact with it.
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But "A single Jounin" is quite literally one of the best high-level outcome she could meet.
Amongs the various outcomes there are:
-Elite Jounin
-Jounin with back-up (1 Chuunin or more)
-Jounin leader with squad
ect...
To be honest the "Single Hunter-Seeker normal Jounin vs Yuno and Akane" was one of the luckiest outcomes amongs the high level encounters, and in any of the others she would probably die.
She's one of the few people that can pass for a Rock ninja, because Taijutsu is a general skill, and she's strong enough to protect the team while not valuable enough to damage the frontline effort with her absence. On top of that she's can operate well with Hazou and keep him under check if needs be. So it's also a reasonable pick.
There is also "[ ] (OtterRec) Otter Hunters - Stealth Option" that is a well done suggestion that includes Akane in one of the possible teams.
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Honestly though the odds of running into any jounin are super low. We know pre us Leaf had 50 jounin and was the biggest village. Rock almost certainly has less than that. The odds of an op having a random jounin there is really low. You might be able to make some arguments about Rock intelligence changing those odds but that's counteracted by Leaf intel
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We probably need to consider the fact that the longer the war goes on, the bigger the chance of Jounin is, because the others(Chuunin or Genin) die, while Jounins generally only die against other Jounins. More imporantly, we know Sand has far less Elite Jounins and Jounins than Rock and/or Cloud. So, if we have a strictly better option than doing nothing...
EDIT: also, we know it can happen, because it happened.
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The pangolins should be leaking information that Kei will be there through several sources. All we're leaking is that it's a trap. If the condors play along and take the bait that's still extremely bad, since it will mean Leaf won't be able to support them in the future.
The best case scenario is that the condors either don't take the bait or decide to attach somewhere else because they reason that security will be lower in other places in order to have more troops for Kei's security. After all, who would let their summoner near contested territory undefended?
And these things are reasonable for the condors to do, too. Your opponent won't always do what you expect him to, and no plan survives contact with the enemy. It was simply the pangolins' faults for assuming they could predict the condors' thoght processes while looking down on them.
My only concern is whether Kei may be the only leak, and it's actually intended to simply be a loyalty test. If that's the case though, the condors not taking the bait looks just the same as Kei not being a leak, so it would be a poorly constructed loyalty test.
I think the pangolins' racism is making it harder for them to predict the condors' reaction to things, as they have no empathy for them. This same racism ironically makes the pangolins think the condors will be more predictable, not less, because how could a mere condor possibly outsmart a pangolin? So they're currently disregarding the likelihood that the condors are cool-headed enough to not take the bait or are smart enough to outsmart the pangolins and attack elsewhere.
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Yes it can happen but it happening once should not dramatically change the odds of it happening. Like I get being scared but this is a rat quest. You gotta look at the numbers when accessing risk.
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Most Rock ninja will be Genin or Chunin, which shouldn't be a problem for Akane/Yuno.
That's really what I was getting at. The likelihood of any enemy Jonin encounter is low, and they already had one and were successful (success measured here as not dead and unharmed).
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Plot twist, they were just carved pieces of wood that didn't do anything
Also what chapter did this happen in?
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"I see the Condors reacted differntly then we expected. Hm" - Pangolin general
"Stupid slaves! They can't have reacted different then believed!? This must be TREAAASON!!!" - Same Pangolin general
We don't know how any of the sides reacts, therefore we should stay mostly out of it. If Kei had found and contacted Pangolin that are willing to help, things would be different. But she waited until shit hit the fan and decided she must act now, by betraying the Pangolin.
I don't know what different Pangolin believe, so far they have been pretty smart about their conquest. Multiple other countires are letting them being a bunch of assholes at the moment. I doubt their racism is making them act foolish (the important once at least).
I am not defending the Pangolins, but were on thin ice here. Failure here means dead Condors, dead Ruri and dead Kei (and Snowflake).
Unless they have some big plan where they save an important Condor, that's absolutely not a best case scenario, becaue they are possible giving away that they have an informant with access to important information. It's really better to lose a few soldiers to let the enemy think they "got" you.
Because freeing a few Condors will just lead to the Pangolin to kill more Condors. And said resistance fighter is ruthless, so who knows what his actual goal would be with that information.
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I believe they only get downloaded if they are infused seals.
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I mean, Kagome found them. He probably isn't a Uchiha or Kurosawa.
Probably.
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I don't really see what that has to do with what I said
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I had thought that Hazō was there that scene. If it was random carvings, they wouldn't get downloaded.
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But I only said they may not do anything, you were the one who said... ehhhh whatever