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Fair enough, then the best came scenario is that the rebels don't take the bait.
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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Derp. If we aren't sent packing for the summon scroll mission. Hazo already put in the prerequisite to be considered.
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I'm all for getting more forbidden lore, but I'm unsure if we should prioritize that over ending the war. I do think that we need different approaches regarding the Great Seal, since our current research team hasn't made any progress.
We're looking into 3D geometry in the latest action plan. Who knows if it will pans out?
Haven't checked out carved seals. Need to look into rock types.
And we also need to eventually do an experiment.
Looking into Isan forbidden lore probably won't help. It will expand our knowledge base and get more help yes, but I consider it unlikely they will have anything to help us with 3D sealing. We're all starting from scratch.
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I'm of the opinion that the war is essentially over. It was pretty much sealed when Oro + Isan stomped cloud and Ami got Mist to commit. Otherwise sending us to hunt the Scroll makes basically no sense strategically
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I think the war is possibly won, I don't think that's the same thing as being over though. We still have to play it all out until Rock is satisfied and pulls back. Trying to pull a false flag at the very end of the war doesn't make sense either, but it does make sense if there's still a lot of fighting ahead and you want to minimize your own losses by getting someone else to fight your enemy.
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Cloud and Rock are most likely reassessing their positions after Oro's march and Mist's intervention. If Cloud has only invaded because they thought Leaf would be too preoccupied with Rock to prevent a land grab Cloud now knows otherwise. Our best bet to winning the war, provided that we do know Cloud's intentions and wants (and that's a HUGE 'if'), would be to curtail all of their attempts at securing footholds in Leaf territory as quickly as possible. Ideally, Mist will not have to engage Cloud forces in Leaf territory since that would set a bad precedent that Mist ninja are needed to hold Leaf territory as Leaf would apparently not have the capability to secure that land itself. It would be more in Leaf's interests if Mist focused heavily on raiding Cloud's coast line to force Cloud to fight on another front.
Rock will be more difficult since, IIRC, they initially attacked us out of a sense of vengeance. Breaking their will to fight will be harder since they already hate our guts and consequently view us as villains, not as a soft target ripe for plundering.
Wars aren't constant action. They only end when the leaders of one side realize that there is nothing else they can do with the resources they have or expect to have available and then they negotiate surrender.
Sense of what vengeance? They are just greedy dicks since they wanted Leaf's land without having to work for it.
Asuma: Ladies and gentlemen, we are now in the fourth ninja world war.
*Orochimaru and Isan ninja DOOMSTACK ensues*
Asuma: Oh, nevermind then.
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I might be mistaking canon with MfD lore. I thought Rock had some justification for launching the collapse in the first place and their humanitarian "aid" was a way to claim moral superiority after Leaf suffered such a "natural" tragedy.
Maybe Asuma mentioned something about Rock being salty about previous world wars? I can't find anything after a simple search but then again I'm not a lore master for a reason.
Everybody's salty about losing. Doesn't make them any less of a greedy asshole.
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I feel that ignores the complicated geo-political situation of the EN. It's not as if Leaf would move a finger in case Rock needed food, they would probably throw a party on how "The unlightened monsters of Rock are dying of famine for their sins agaisnt the Will of Fire" or something. In fact, if Rock is full of greedy dicks, then Leaf is half filled with genocidal monsters that wanted to wipe Rock off the map in response of a land grab.
This isn't to say that Rock is "good", but concepts like "good" and "bad" are a bit simplicistic when you are in the geo-political gordian know that is the Elemental Nation.
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You're right, Rock being agressive is a direct result of them capturing Hidan and using his damage transfer. They're collecting blood samples from all our forces from battlefields, then transferring minute amounts of brain and organ damage to our forces. When the time is right, they'll transfer mortal wounds and stroll leisurely into Konoha. Jashin has fun diverting us to chasing another scroll meanwhile.
Trusting the designs of a god made sense when, exactly?
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We should have looked depper into Ninjutsu development.
For all we know a simple ninjutsu could fix the whole thing. Arachnids don't know anything about the sealing after all, it would be kind of hilarious if someone with some ninjutsu and sealing knowledge could have fixed the seal already.
We can get a TH, but TH is a rather expensive skill on top of sealing, caligraphy, and stoneshaping.
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Would be a way to get the Otter Scroll into our hands since Mari is potentially still a technique hacker. Otherwise could try to get the Scroll to Noda and adopt her
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Could we try and have one of the Dog THers teach one of our newer Goketsu? We don't need the core team to learn it necessarily, since everyone's already got a bunch of stuff at the moment and FOOM is still building up.
Could bring the matter up to Asuma and see if we can get a Leaf THer assigned to the group to see if a Leaf-Dog Jutsu exchange can be worked out.
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I don't think any of our new members of any other estate nin will be good prospect for becoming research specs. We decided to optimize for creating group cohesion instead of competence. So wouldn't feel confident pushing any of them into a dangerous field that they aren't suited for
Pretty sure that with group cohesion comes skills. As a matter of fact, Kagome volunteered and taught three sealmasters, one of which is a budding researcher.
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I am fine with Mari getting the Scroll, because the Air/Water/Lightning Jonin sounds like a good fit. But you're just greedy about it, can't you even give one scroll away for the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP? (Tamari still needs a Hazouband).
We can just start by teaching some 7th path people sealing "theory", or just involve them in the debates about the 3D sculpture.
Just sell it as a "Watcher"-like project to the Summoning Path. Basically they own Grey Wardens, a handful of Summons who at least know what the fuck is going on with sealing and can prepare for the worst.
Plenty of things that can go wrong with that idea, but maybe the damn Conclave does something for once.
As for Dog-ninjutsu, just ask Tsunade about her experience with Slug ninjutsu and Kabuto about general medic ninjutsu stuff. He was able to tell us why Noburi can't use SC. Maybe he can just go: "Oh yeah, that buttwiggle doesn't help, waggle the front tail instead".
After all, Hiruzen called it hard for Snake jutsu, not impossible and he was a Ninjutsu master.
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I think we've proven that competence as a ninja comes when provided with support and a cause.