@eaglejarl, @Velorien, approximately how big is the Great Seal? And how tall is it relative to its width?
It's in the form of a contiguous structure composed of relatively narrow lines, not a solid mass, meaning that its area is much larger than its volume. It covered the entire top of the butte, which was an approximate circle of approximately 50m diameter unless @faflec disagrees. The maximum depth was about 10m.

Total volume is probably about 100 cubic meters, give or take.
 
It's in the form of a contiguous structure composed of relatively narrow lines, not a solid mass, meaning that its area is much larger than its volume. It covered the entire top of the butte, which was an approximate circle of approximately 50m diameter unless @faflec disagrees. The maximum depth was about 10m.

Total volume is probably about 100 cubic meters, give or take.

I think we only care about actual seal, not the rocks it's made of?
 
added, but I'm not super stoked by the fact that the offscreen segment has become larger than the actual scenes. This isn't even a matter of delegation, like even if we were to pass this off to Noburi for instance it takes up space to tell him about it. Might just wrap a bunch of it up in "Hazou reports relevant things from last update, clanmates act on information" tbh. It means the QMs can largely just ignore it unless we choose to ask about it later and we don't get punched in the face down the line for "neglecting a plotline".

What do yall think?
Thanks for adding. I think this is probably the best way to handle it because Tsunade is touchy about what deserves her immediate attention. If it was Hazo showing up asking for a meeting she might get prissy that Hazo is making assumptions about what she should consider important. Sending a messenger puts the ball in her court about whether it's something she wants to handle immediately or defer but also gets us points because we notified her as soon as we knew about the opportunity.
 
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I think we only care about actual seal, not the rocks it's made of?
The bad news is that he now realizes that, unlike every other seal he has ever seen, the Great Seal is three dimensional. The Iron Nerve stored the relative heights of each segment, the overall layout, and even the texture of the surface, suggesting that all of those factors were important.
I would imagine that different rocks have different textures that are difficult to make similar enough for the use of making a seal.
 
Let's see, a cylinder with those values has a volume of 19,635 cubic meters, which means the Great Seal fills only 0.5% of the cylinder which fully contains it. If we try to make a cylinder of 8 cubic meters of volume and subtract stone to get a Great Seal shape we'll be tossing out almost all of the stone in the process, making the resulting replica much smaller than it could otherwise be.

From a different angle, if we go directly to the 100 cubic meters of Great Seal volume and scale it down to 8 cubic meters, we'll get dimensions about 43% of the original, so 21.5m diameter and 4.3m maximum height.

If we level the jutsu to 30 and get 16 cubic meters, we would be able to make the replica 54% as large as the original, a 27m diameter and a 5.4m maximum height. We would also have reached the point where we can just go exactly 50% scale size on each axis, to perhaps make it simpler to analyze.
 
Let's see, a cylinder with those values has a volume of 19,635 cubic meters, which means the Great Seal fills only 0.5% of the cylinder which fully contains it. If we try to make a cylinder of 8 cubic meters of volume and subtract stone to get a Great Seal shape we'll be tossing out almost all of the stone in the process, making the resulting replica much smaller than it could otherwise be.

From a different angle, if we go directly to the 100 cubic meters of Great Seal volume and scale it down to 8 cubic meters, we'll get dimensions about 43% of the original, so 21.5m diameter and 4.3m maximum height.

If we level the jutsu to 30 and get 16 cubic meters, we would be able to make the replica 54% as large as the original, a 27m diameter and a 5.4m maximum height. We would also have reached the point where we can just go exactly 50% scale size on each axis, to perhaps make it simpler to analyze.
Can we not make the model a section at a time?
 
When Akane rips you a new one for not punishing someone's fuckup enough.

When Akane escapes any and all responsibility and punishment from allowing the subordinate person she's "working closely with" to fuckup.

I'm just saying, I find it super weird the way the whole Haru thing went down.
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Hazō raised an eyebrow. "Where did Haru hear all that?"

"He was vague about his sources, My Lord. Would you like me to pressure him?"

"Nah, it's fine. He can have secrets if he wants. For now, anyway. Compartmentalization isn't necessarily bad." He thought about that. "Actually...hm. Let me think on it. There might be some political concerns about the Clan Head not knowing what's going on, and it could raise his wagon factor too high."

"...'Wagon factor', sir?"

Hazō chuckled. "Yeah, it's the measure of how many things would go to Naraka if that person got run over by a wagon and died."

"Ah, I see. Very droll, sir."

Hazō rolled his eyes. "Right. Anyway, I might make an issue of it later but Haru probably wants to feel like he has some ongoing value. For now he can have his secrets although I might change that tomorrow after I've thought about it more.
 
It's continuous, so, maybe? I don't know how this jutsu interacts with trying to fuse stone together if we assemble it in pieces, or how much a piecemeal replica would affect analysis. We could give it a try though.
The impression I got was that it was made of distinct elements, the same way that a seal isn't a single uninterrupted brushstroke. If it has two 'strokes', then 29 should be fine. We can do it one stroke at a time.

Alternately - what if we make our copy of the seal a hollow shell? I'm not sure how thick the 'strokes' are, other than narrow relative to the diameter, but probably thin enough that we can get away with saving a little volume that way.

Or we can just make a small model and then blown up elements based on whatever Kagome thinks is important.
 
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I honestly don't think Kagome is going to know much more than us. The only reason we can even suspect which elements matter is because the Iron Nerve downloaded them
The sealmasters collectively figured out what the Great Seal did...sorta. I'd be surprised if he had zero insight, but there's gonna be a lot of shrugging and speculation.

Mostly, I didn't want to say 'based on what the collected sealmasters of Leaf think'.
 
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The impression I got was that it was made of distinct elements, the same way that a seal isn't a single uninterrupted brushstroke. If it has two 'strokes', then 29 should be fine. We can do it one stroke at a time.

Alternately - what if we make our copy of the seal a hollow shell? I'm not sure how thick the 'strokes' are, other than narrow relative to the diameter, but probably thin enough that we can get away with saving a little volume that way.

Or we can just make a small model and then blown up elements based on whatever Kagome thinks is important.
Velorien specified just up above that it's a single contiguous structure. If we want to replicate it life-size in multiple segments, we'll have to tackle the problem of fitting two halves back together.
 
Velorien specified just up above that it's a single contiguous structure. If we want to replicate it life-size in multiple segments, we'll have to tackle the problem of fitting two halves back together.
Couldn't we just use the earthshaping jutsu on the seam to join them? We wouldn't need to affect the whole structure for that. @eaglejarl @Velorien how much control do we have over the affected earth? Are we limited to saturating a cube, or can we do a more complex shape?
 
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Sorry, it wasn't. I fail to see how that somehow vindicates Akane from knowing what her subordinate did for weeks during a shared investigation in which she was also largely in charge of the clan while Hazo was...Hanzo'd.

Hanzo going, "Ya, I'll check on that later" is him under the assumption that Akane and Haru were handling it. Ironically, with all the talk recently, he had delegated that action to Akane and Haru.

I mean maybe she overcorrected as a coping mechanism but how that played out is weird to me.
 
My personal worries, not WOG:
  1. I worry about catching a facefull of salt if the general staff makes a mistake
  2. Ditto the salt if the general staff doesn't perform optimally -- any time the hivemind notices something that the QMs didn't we're going to get "That's ridiculous! <Person> should have thought of that!"
  3. Items 1&2 incentivize us to make the staff always perform perfectly, which isn't super realistic
  4. I'm not sure how much background simulation will be required. It could end up being more than what we do now and without the help of the players.
On the positive side:
  1. Huzzah for not nearly as many meetings and administrivia!
Give the General Staff a Competence Score, then give the problems they do a set difficulty each, modified by plans, appropriate/wrong mindsets, etc. Roll as needed to resolve events as they occur. Done!
 
[X] Training Noburi: Boop

Hey, uh, how long do HOWS last? Or rather, more importantly, when do we apply the next batch? This seems like important information if we plan on timeskipping.
 
Give the General Staff a Competence Score, then give the problems they do a set difficulty each, modified by plans, appropriate/wrong mindsets, etc. Roll as needed to resolve events as they occur. Done!
Also make these rolls public via the forum dice roller. It makes things much easier to accept as 'the cost of doing business' if we can see the shitty roll. Oh, and it's great fun when we get a shitty roll and then can gossip and speculate what exactly will fuck up.
 
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