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Could you add "/Training jutsu" to the jutsu search? So we'll do everything at once and resolve the plot point. We asked Cannai this update, but not the Toads.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Could you add "/Training jutsu" to the jutsu search? So we'll do everything at once and resolve the plot point. We asked Cannai this update, but not the Toads.
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Not really? We're mixing meta-narrative problems and in-universe ones. Fact is, in real life, someone morality doesn't just stop working then they are stressed: They can ignore it, they can think about something else, they can lack the emotional resources needed to deal with it. But if you think killing someone is wrong, you will, generally, always think killing someone is wrong.
There is a reason Akane said "I don't understand what the hell happened", because what happened is the equivalent of having your moral and sensible boyfriend/girlfriend going "Our close friend shot 6 people in cold blood? That will make christmast dinner awkward, so he should probably stop doing that".
Also, a clan head doesn't use the "I can kill you" power, if he does, he's an incompetent clan head. On top of that, family doesn't do that.
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Thank you, someone else said it.
I think people are underestimating how much Akane's worldview in regards to Uplift were shaped by Hazou's speeches. IMO some of her reaction was caused by her questioning whether or not everything Hazou told her about him supporting Uplift was a lie. He is one of Mari's students, after all.
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I know it's unfair to expect everyone to be @faflec, but it seems weird for someone to be wrong about so much factual information when constructing their argument when the updates are right there.
Guy meets girl. Guy gets girl potentially implicated in espionage/murder so she has to flee with him. Girl gets incapacitated and tortured for same. Guy fights to the edge of death for girl; girl fights to the edge of death for guy.
I, uh, don't even know where to start with this one. I'm struggling to find quotes to respond with because there's simply nothing in the text itself to support Kabuto being evil beyond a possibility.
Guy forces the most dangerous man on the entire planet to almost murder him and and his entire family by accidentally threatening the life of a potential enemy (who, in the event, didn't harm Akane or anyone else). I have no idea what you mean about the pardon and the basement; those are things that simply never happened, although it's possible I'm drastically misreading your sentence because its grammatical structure makes it hard to follow.
Guy has literally no relationship to her being readopted and her whole "treason" thing being nullified.
This isn't a gift. This is him very belatedly making up for the fact that she was the only one left out when the rest of Team Uplift were adopted into a life of privilege. He then adopted her parents, skilled carpenters whose abilities he proceeded to leverage in a practical fashion.
I may be wasting my time at this point, but Hazō burned angry cats because otherwise they would have killed him, before finding anything out about the Eaters; Kumokōgō would not appreciate you casting aspersions on her weight; Hazō never expected or intended to cripple himself, because that would be crazy.
This part has already been well-covered by others.
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The jutsu only reshapes material, it does not add or subtract it. The starting material must fit inside your maximum volume but it can then be shaped such that it stretches outside of the initial volume. It was originally designed for making elaborate sculpture and friezes so yes, you can produce complex shapes with it.
You can join two pieces of material together in the sense that you can shape one of them around the other, but this is a purely mechanical joining, the way a carpenter's dovetail joint connects two pieces of wood but does not make them one piece of wood.
One month of continuous output, although they can only be activated once.
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Is it fair to say it looks something like a gigantic funnel cake except with proportionally thinner and more divergent strands?
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Yes, definitely. We certainly didn't try to cripple Hazou to get him more TYS or anything, that would be crazy. Ha ha ha.
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The Yakuza might not be ninja, but pretending that they are powerless and without influence is just wrong.
They should have been able to stop Haru if they really wanted to, by hiring other ninja (Lord Hagoromo would have probably done it for free) or contacting other allies inside Leaf to stop Goketsu.
Also, Akane was shocked because Hazou waited three weeks, not just because he didn't have a proper punishemnt for him.
Haru went behind Hazou's back, that has nothing to do with incompetence. That's like saying Asuma shouldn't execute Hazou for treason because that would make him look incompetent.
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Yep, that works. Thanks for the comparison.
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I disagree, I think his punishment is kinda epic
It does make him dislike us more but frankly he has some issues he needs to work out anyways so I'm not that bothered by it. He needs a "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" speech or something.
It benefits us by: Not making the Yakuza desire revenge. How are they going to one-up a fate worse than death? If Hazou did nothing, they might've sought ways to hurt our finances or avenge their friends in other ways. This shows that Hazou doesn't see Haru's treatment of them as acceptable and probably salvaged our relationship with them. I don't think there's a single other clan head in Leaf who would've stuck their neck out for the Yakuza like this.
It also benefits us by making Hazou's legacy even zanier and at this point, scarier. In the chapter it was described in, several of the ninja of Leaf found the punishment to be more extreme than execution. That's how far people will go to protect their privilege. Hazou just broke new ground here, and it terrifies people. I find that pretty badass. They might even be talking about this in other ninja villages, once the Yakuza spread word. This might be the single most important thing that spreads awareness that Hazou isn't fucking around with his Uplift ideology.
And of course, civilians just like us that much more for it, though some did express skepticism, but it's hard to blame people for being cynical in a deathworld
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It's irrelevant to the point being made. The Yakuza could be Sage itself, the important thing is that Hazoupilot treats them like humans, and we didn't.
The quote i was quoting was talking about Akane, as far as i can understand.
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Hey, at least the Dragons aren't self inflicted-
*remembers there might be a connection between Hazou distributing seals to pangolins and the Great Seal failing*
nvm
It's also true that we don't want Haru sitting on the bench for far too long.
Yes, he should and needed to be punished for various reasons, but there's uplift works to be done.
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His punishment only just started, it would be completely pointless to immediately undo it
Then we'll need to discuss ending Haru's punishment at some point in an offscreen meeting.
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My plan has Akane overseeing his punishment. If it passes, she can stop it whenever she sees fit
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Right, I wasn't really thinking about Lailoken's post.
It does matter, it wasn't "Haru shot 6 people in cold blood", but rather "Haru shot 6 member of the mafia" and Haru was doing it during his investigation, Hazou and the crowd acknowledge that as important:
Those are people who are part of a larger (criminal) organization and not as defensless or powerless as the rest of Leaf's civilian population.
And Hazoupilot kind of ignored the whole issue until he got a plan.
Let's hope that people see that as pro-civilian in general, because Hazou publicly called them scum.
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My take is that any other clan head would also say "The Yakuza are scum."
Hazou basically said "The Yakuza are scum...but that doesn't mean their lives aren't worth something."
Why is it handled poorly?
Hazou didn't give haru the benefit of the doubt, like how akane treated hazou. He didn't ask whether haru had investigated the crimes to check whether the yakuza deserved death. He didn't let haru explain himself, just directly went to punishment. Haru did briefly explain himself, but wasn't given more time to explain.
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The point of the punishment (and why Akane was mad at Hazou) is that there really isn't a valid explanation for why Haru murdered a bunch of Yazuka in a premeditated fashion. Ninja shouldn't act as vigilantes murdering civilians who "deserve" death; at least not under Uplift.