@Inferno Vulpix , I don't think mixing Yuno and Ino is a good idea, if we want to make Yuno feel included I would say it's simpler to just arrange a spar with Team Gai. Ino and Hazou aren't really friends while Lee, Tenten and even Neji have a much better attitude towards him and we can talk with them about Leaf/Mist differences too.

I don't really have a problem with meeting Ino but I doubt that Hazou needs to help her destress, she has a clan, probably a few non-clan friends and the Nara/Akamichi. But mixing Yuno and Ino without Akane sounds like a bad idea to me.

I mean, you might be right. After typing this...

Maybe Yuno (someone from a highly isolationist, highly formal village where the average ninja's career isn't measured in the single digits) thinks that the brief, too-the-point courtships/marriages are irrational and maybe even a little foolish? It'd be likely that she thinks of such unions as "mere whirlwind romances that aren't likely to endure the entropic sands of time. I mean, they don't even know the given name of their partner's great-great grandmother! How can you expect the ancestors to give their blessing if you can't even honor them properly?!"

...I've come to the realization that Ino flourishes in Leaf's culture while Yuno is disoriented and drowning. We might end up needing to tap into the Out to navigate the social minefield --which would nullify the "relaxation" part of the lunch/tea/coffee meetup. We could bring Akane to help smooth things over --especially since she's friends with both Ino and Yuno.

But that might cause some weird friction between Hazou, Akane, and Ino, since I don't think that we've really clarified Hazou's intentions toward Ino. And Yuno, being the traditionalist that she is, might take offense to that. Especially since she's still seriously hurting after Noburi declared his intentions in apparent bad faith, then left her high and dry. Yuno might misdirect some anger Hazou's way if she thinks that he's doing something similar to Ino.
 
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It's possible/likely Ino already knows about Yuno, but if you're going to ask Asuma about this I would suggest justifying it. Like... "We want to make Yuno feel more at home in Leaf and wonder if Ino's got clearance." or something like that.
I imagine that Mist marriages were a mixture of political/cultural eugenics and Skyrim-esque brevity.

Like, a cultural "any decent person won't even consider someone for marriage until they're a chuunin. Those that do... Well, they almost always end up proving themselves to be the... disloyal sort, and are secreted away one night. And any Special Jonin/Jonin worth the rank won't even register another person as a romantic option until they're at least the same rank." That'd back up the discrimination that Hazou's mother faced, too. Wasn't he a clanless chuunin to her clan heiress jonin? Even if I'm wrong, and the discrimination was purely clan-oriented, it'd still be a cool idea.

Anyway, maybe there's an additional Mist notion of "for years/decades, we were held under the tyrannical thumb of a harsh jinchuuriki --who might as well be a fickle, angry god for all the difference it made. You didn't hear it from me, but most of us literally didn't know if we'd be alive next week, by the enemy's hand or by our own village's. Seriously, the fact that you don't have Bi-Weekly Loyalty Exams here is still kinda weird. So anyway, in Mist, courtship tends to be pretty quick and to the point. Why waste time you might not have, you know?"

Actually, now that I type this out, wouldn't courtship tend to be pretty quick in the ninja world --for Mist, especially? Short lifespans, deadly careers? I mean, ill-considered jokes about military spouses aside, there's valid reasoning to think that romance for ninjas in the EN is different than for civilians.

Maybe Yuno (someone from a highly isolationist, highly formal village where the average ninja's career isn't measured in the single digits) thinks that the brief, too-the-point courtships/marriages are irrational and maybe even a little foolish? It'd be likely that she thinks of such unions as "mere whirlwind romances that aren't likely to endure the entropic sands of time. I mean, they don't even know the given name of their partner's great-great grandmother! How can you expect the ancestors to give their blessing if you can't even honor them properly?!"

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Edit: minor wording and grammar alterations for clarity of thought.

Also, would Mari be okay with Naruto as Hokage? She's already served under the rule of one neigh-unbeatable jinchuuriki whose will couldn't be fought. Would she be okay serving under another one, even if it's one as (seemingly) benevolent as Naruto?
@Inferno Vulpix , I don't think mixing Yuno and Ino is a good idea, if we want to make Yuno feel included I would say it's simpler to just arrange a spar with Team Gai. Ino and Hazou aren't really friends while Lee, Tenten and even Neji have a much better attitude towards him and we can talk with them about Leaf/Mist differences too.

I don't really have a problem with meeting Ino but I doubt that Hazou needs to help her destress, she has a clan, probably a few non-clan friends and the Nara/Akamichi. But mixing Yuno and Ino without Akane sounds like a bad idea to me.
Yeah this 'bring Yuno to tea' thing is getting increasingly complicated and uncertain, and I'm thinking it might be best to return to just Hazou and Ino, and then leave Yuno a standing invitation to come sparring with us or something.

But not right now, since it's late and I don't 100% trust sleepy-me to make the best decisions, so I'll get back to this in the morning.
 
Since it's been way too long since the last killboxident, how much does anybody consider it worth to know about Oro's secret basement outside-the-walls tunnel? How much might somebody consider it worth to keep other somebodies from finding out about it?

Hey, who's up for a dungeon delve whose entrance has been thoroughly mapped and mined by a demolitions expert? Better than most, right?


I may be a bad person...
 
@Inferno Vulpix , I don't think mixing Yuno and Ino is a good idea, if we want to make Yuno feel included I would say it's simpler to just arrange a spar with Team Gai. Ino and Hazou aren't really friends while Lee, Tenten and even Neji have a much better attitude towards him and we can talk with them about Leaf/Mist differences too.

I don't really have a problem with meeting Ino but I doubt that Hazou needs to help her destress, she has a clan, probably a few non-clan friends and the Nara/Akamichi. But mixing Yuno and Ino without Akane sounds like a bad idea to me.
What're you talking about? Ino and Hazou are friends. Not super fantastic friends, but they're friends.
 
[O] Action Plan: Flight, Family, and Iron Nerve

Vote retracted in favor of another plan.
 
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What're you talking about? Ino and Hazou are friends. Not super fantastic friends, but they're friends.

Not really, they spent some time talking both on-screen and of-screen, but what else? So I would call her an acquaintance.

edit: And besides Akane they weren't really talking about anything personal anyway.
 
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Not really, they spent some time talking both on-screen and of-screen, but what else? So I would call her an acquaintance.

edit: And besides Akane they weren't really talking about anything personal anyway.
Someone you spend time with repeatedly and actively seek out at least a couple times isn't someone you would consider a friend?
 
Someone you spend time with repeatedly and actively seek out at least a couple times isn't someone you would consider a friend?

Not automatically? Depends on the exact context? But what exactly have Hazou and Ino done that makes them friends?

Also:
"That's what you're angry with me about? But you even came to my gaming night!"

"Yes," Yamanaka explained with exaggerated patience, "because when someone throws a party for all the clan heirs, you go. Even if your host is some lecherous old man who likes 'em young—or worse, an Inuzuka—if everyone else is going, you go. That's how making connections and maintaining them works. That's how politics works. How do you plan to survive in the big leagues if you don't even know that much?"

Just because she comes to our social gatherings doesn't make her a friend.
 
They're friends, she was just pissed at us as a result of game night fallout and fallout with the Akane stuff.

Reaaaaly not ready to assume she's a friend here. Was-kinda-into a guy, backed off because friend was really into him and had dibs, got the green light from friend and then stupid boy blew it all to hell and back?

Teenage_Girl.exe is throwing up a few more exceptions than usual, but looking at the dump file I'm reeeeaaaly not inclined to declare "benign" just yet.
 
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Y'all are being overlly paranoid about this. Ino's chill enough, and she'd love to have someone to show around Leaf. SHe's a social butterfly and loves to show off, and is socially perceptive enough to deal well with the awkward foreigner.

No accounting for which foreigner we're talking about here.
 
Y'all are being overlly paranoid about this. Ino's chill enough, and she'd love to have someone to show around Leaf. SHe's a social butterfly and loves to show off, and is socially perceptive enough to deal well with the awkward foreigner.

No accounting for which foreigner we're talking about here.

It sounds like a job for Noburi. He's got the ballast to sink the hit.


I really should get some REM cycles.,.
 
Y'all are being overlly paranoid about this. Ino's chill enough, and she'd love to have someone to show around Leaf. SHe's a social butterfly and loves to show off, and is socially perceptive enough to deal well with the awkward foreigner.

No accounting for which foreigner we're talking about here.
That said, she's a clan head now. She may not have the time she'd like to properly take Yuno under her wing. She'd be fine on a visit, though.
 
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To be clear, I think that talking to Asuma about formalizing our ownership of the Shimura Estate is a job for Mari. If you mean something else by what you said, I confess I don't know what it is.


Using skywalkers to test prototypes would count as treason, wouldn't it?

Also, I don't think we should ask Kagome about Shadow clones there in the office. Not only has Asuma had at least one moment of "you're pushing it kid", and wants to wrap the meeting up, but Kagome reacted poorly to the idea of Shadow clones previously. Better to wait, check with Kagome privately, then ask after. It isn't like he'll be about to learn it before going on the mission anyway.

And I don't think reproducing the tower seals should be part of our entry, so much as just a thing we should do (though anything that raises our goodwill likely has some interaction with our chances of winning, no matter how small).

Edit: Faflec'd, version 2. But I agree with those statements and changes, for what's it's worth group consensus wise.

Also, while tea with Into would be a nice scene to be written, Yuno and her lack of stability/feeling adrift/being more in our care seems more urgent. Not that it's a dichotomy, just an observation of potential priorities.
 
Using skywalkers to test prototypes would count as treason, wouldn't it?

Also, I don't think we should ask Kagome about Shadow clones there in the office. Not only has Asuma had at least one moment of "you're pushing it kid", and wants to wrap the meeting up, but Kagome reacted poorly to the idea of Shadow clones previously. Better to wait, check with Kagome privately, then ask after. It isn't like he'll be about to learn it before going on the mission anyway.

And I don't think reproducing the tower seals should be part of our entry, so much as just a thing we should do (though anything that raises our goodwill likely has some interaction with our chances of winning, no matter how small).

Edit: Faflec'd, version 2. But I agree with those statements and changes, for what's it's worth group consensus wise.

Also, while tea with Into would be a nice scene to be written, Yuno and her lack of stability/feeling adrift/being more in our care seems more urgent. Not that it's a dichotomy, just an observation of potential priorities.
The Intel notes are something we should do but we're getting credits anyway.
 
Pretty much.

More of a "I'm generally concerned that Hazou's negative Cracking level will make it so he won't even be able to organize it properly".

We're only using chakra construct MEW which lasts 30s, so we're only getting ~300m/s.

Aww

Also, in addition to working with Yuno I'd want to add the following to some plan:
  • Have Mari:
    • Help Nobby untangle feelings wrt. Yuno.
    • Talk to Yuno to understand her desires, needs, and mindset.
Optionally we could add a "Mindset: We want what is best for Yuno's well-being, even at the cost of clan power" to the "talk to Yuno" bit.
 
"To be clear: Until Jiraiya's notes are fully decoded and all intelligence-related parts have been turned over, I expect that to be the Gōketsu's top priority."
"Before he died, Jiraiya mentioned that clarity was important to your family," the Hokage said, his fire-tinged eyes serious. "Given that, please forgive me if my words are a bit blunt: The Tower owns everything that Jiraiya knew about Leaf's intelligence service, its enemies, and any scrap of information that might have strategic or geopolitical relevance. I expect those to be turned over, in full, as soon as possible. Failure to do so would constitute high treason against Leaf; I have confidence in the honor of the Gōketsu and am therefore confident that you would never do such a thing intentionally. I simply mention it so as to avoid any oversights or confusion. I assume I have eliminated any possibility of such?"

Hazō swallowed. "Yes sir. Crystal clear."

"Excellent."

As much as I'd like to have tea with Ino, I'd REALLY like to avoid committing high treason (again).

Seriously, how much clearer can the QM's make this?
 
Aww

Also, in addition to working with Yuno I'd want to add the following to some plan:
  • Have Mari:
    • Help Nobby untangle feelings wrt. Yuno.
    • Talk to Yuno to understand her desires, needs, and mindset.
Optionally we could add a "Mindset: We want what is best for Yuno's well-being, even at the cost of clan power" to the "talk to Yuno" bit.
She definitely needs more than two days to process given the overall situation. Tell her about the mission, and if we're going on it personally, ask her if there's anything we can do for her before we leave. Consult her, use her advice, but give her her space. Once this mission is over, then we might want to prompt her, but give her a week or so at least. She's already shown some better mood; while she might fake that, the fact that her eye color hasn't changed either is a further indication that we did actually help her.
Pay based on maximum payload weight aloft.

As for the squatting thing, don't try and shield Mari - tell her about it, ask her advice, if her advice is "let me handle it" then let her handle it.
I'd rather we not have Mari do stuff; rather, let's get her advice.
 
Alright, nixed the Yuno part of tea with Ino and instead invited her to sparring sessions.
You know what, why not?

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[X] Action Plan: Flight, Family, and Iron Nerve
  • After you leave:
    • Ask Kagome if he's interested in learning Shadow Clone. Two Kagomes could decrypt or scribe twice as fast, after all, and you could watch each other's backs.
    • Noburi could compare your chakra to Keiko's if you're not sure if you have enough.
  • Make sure to prioritize sorting through Jiraiya's notes in what free time you have.
    • You may not know anything about cryptography but you can probably sort and organize the decrypted stuff.
  • Run the rest by the clan before executing:
  • Spend 1FP to have previously memorized every seal in the Tower's catalog.
    • Scribe out a copy of each (stay under surveillance if the clan is worried about you scribing seals)
    • Bring them to Asuma in addition to whatever descriptions you can recall, in case Leaf didn't have surviving backup caches for any of them.
  • Scout out minor clans that might have unused adoption slots and sound out how much they're worth to them.
  • Have tea with Ino.
    • Goal: have some nice harmless de-stressing fun.
    • Swap idioms and jokes from our different upbringings. We've got shark jokes, what do you have?
    • Discuss some of the differences between Leaf and Mist culture, but keep everything lighthearted.
  • Invite Yuno out to sparring sessions, try and help her feel more included.
  • Skysliders:
    • Begin regularly checking in on the craftsmen and getting progress reports.
      • Contribute any ideas or inspiration you think might help (such as your insights on updrafts from way back in Mist)
      • Test their prototypes at safe low altitudes.
    • Raise morale:
      • An inspiring speech never hurt.
      • Set up a prize for getting a functional prototype design: a sizeable sum of money or a personal favour from us.
As much as I'd like to have tea with Ino, I'd REALLY like to avoid committing high treason (again).

Seriously, how much clearer can the QM's make this?
I'll note that Hazou can't actually contribute all that much to this, given his complete lack of cryptography skill (effective -1 right now, ouch). What I have told Hazou to do is spend the rest of his free time sorting through decrypted stuff, which honestly I don't think will take so much time as to prohibit things like teatime. (Sanity check: how long does it take Kagome to decode a page of notes, vs. how long does it take for Hazou to read the page and decide whether it's Clan Secrets, Leaf Intel, or Icha Icha Notes?)

And even then, it's teatime. Taking breaks is an important part of being productive, so even if Hazou could decrypt the notes I would not expect Asuma to begrudge us taking a tea break.
Aww

Also, in addition to working with Yuno I'd want to add the following to some plan:
  • Have Mari:
    • Help Nobby untangle feelings wrt. Yuno.
    • Talk to Yuno to understand her desires, needs, and mindset.
Optionally we could add a "Mindset: We want what is best for Yuno's well-being, even at the cost of clan power" to the "talk to Yuno" bit.
I sympathize but there's a lot going on in this plan already and if we're already intending on 'collaborate with Mari on a game plan for discussing the Shimura Estate with Asuma' then something like this would fit in nicely alongside it, so I hope you don't mind if I leave it for next plan.
 
Given the choice I'd rather it be us working with Yuno over Ino.
Overall or now? Unsure if this is 'I dislike/mistrust Ino' or 'Yuno's problems are urgent' :p

Do we literally need to make every interaction solve problem? Hanging out with Ino is going to help destress Hazo, because he doesn't have to solve some kind of problem.

Is it though? It's not exactly a low-risk relationship, especially now. If we just want to destress we should go train with Tenten or something. Or hang out with Noburi, TBH.

Though I am kinda curious if Akane still hangs out with Ino / Sakura / Hinata or if that was transient.
 
@Inferno Vulpix Could you move the "sanity-check with the team" thing above the "sort through Jiraiya's notes" thing? They may have valuable contributions on doing that more effectively.

Actually, maybe just put it at the top of the plan? For all we know they have ideas on SC as well.
 
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