Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

Inferno Vulpix · Dec 9, 2019

Sentient Tree said:
Icky?

Ikeda, the Fire-element girl from Sand who immolated herself to win her match, who Kiba has a crush on, and who we danced with that one night when we wanted to cover up our use of armor jutsu.

Emstar · Dec 9, 2019

Sentient Tree said:
Icky?

The blond girl from Sand who understands the concept of "If you aren't willing to shell your own position, you aren't willing to win."

A superlative shinobi is she.

Kiba said:
Assuming you're keeping it, how exactly will we attempt to remove pox blanket from their plan?

If I'm keeping it, it'll stay as is. If someone wants significantly content-positive changes in a particular direction in an area I don't really care about, then they can suggest the explicit changes to include.

Kiba · Dec 9, 2019

Calculation for revenue generated by Goketsu Storage Bank:

Let's assume everyone in the city rent a storage seal, population 30K more or less. 30,000 x 50 ryo is 1.5 million ryo per month. But of course, not everyone's willing to come to the storage bank for one reason or another, and not everybody needs it. 3/4 of 30K is 22,500 individuals. Assume that those individuals are part of a household with an average size of six, we'll have 3750 accounts.

Let assume that all uses are for grocery. We know that people will like to store perishable goods more than goods that aren't, so it's not an everyday occurrence. We'll assume they will go thrice a week for a cost of single ryo each withdrawal/storage action. 3 x 4 is 12 ryo added to the monthly rent. So 50 + 12 is 62 ryo per month.

3750 * 62 gives us 232,500 ryo per month. 2,790,000 ryo would be the yearly income generated.

Note this doesn't care about for the amount of traffic would be generated if everybody uses our bank, the employee required, the amount of recordkeeping, and all the fun logistics stuff.

roobee · Dec 9, 2019

@Oneiros, consider reminding Hazou about Kagome. I know Hazou said he'll send some letters, but Team Uplift is quite busy and it'd be a shame if Kagome blew up the sealing workshop because they all couldn't find time for him/forget about it.

Halberdier · Dec 9, 2019

1234qwerty said:
Tech Hacker is pretty old. 18 before becoming a drunk, 20 now. If they become jonin, doesn't take a slot to adopt them.

Good point. So, help them, support them, then retainer with goal of zero slot adoption?

RandomOTP said:
I think that this is a little weird, though. I can understand medicine not being advanced enough to know about germs yet --medical jutsu as an effective cure-all would do little to spur innovation and research, much in the way that bacta/kolto is used for everything under the sun in Star Wars --but Tsunade knows that humors are bullshit. The Third Hokage knew that humors are bullshit. So why is it still one of the prevailing medical theories in the EN?

I can get why Tsunade wouldn't spend her life researching --as it is, she's reshaped the medical side of ninjutsu on her own --since that was always Orochimaru's passion, whereas her is more humanitarian in scope. But she wrote books, right? I seem to remember that she (or was it her students) wrote books and did all that they could to fling them across the world. So, knowing that, why are they ignoring her easily verifiable research? Is it simply that the information still isn't readily accessible to civilians --and, thereby, the majority of the EN's population?

eaglejarl said:
The scientific method doesn't really exist as a wide-spread thing, or at least isn't taken seriously. There probably isn't a lot of verification going on.

This. But also: we live in the 21st century. We have access to the Internet. 12 years of public education is fairly common in many parts of the world. Our fairly good doctors can do more than Tsunade, and know enough to leave her slack-jawed. There's been a culture of Science advancements and research that's fairly mainstream. And yet there's still a non-trivial amount of people with sentiments like anti-vaxxing, or that their chosen deity(s) cured the illness instead of healthcare professionals.

If we have that in the modern age, I think in a rural-based, pre-industrial, superstitious world with literal demons and superpowers and a lack of education and painfully clear class system, having people not know or be up on the latest medical research is sadly simulationist.

eaglejarl said:
Heh. Honestly, "Oh look! There's been a seal failure somewhere! Everything in the world is frozen in place for 4 years, ignoring all biological needs such as food and water yet somehow continuing to age!" is kind of tempting.

And we'd have a ton of headaches due to brain drain (some elderly would presumably die), and social issues with younger humans being behind schedules due to time blip, so it would also be challenging and could totally count as our disaster of the month... I mean, half decade. See! You totally should do it!

eaglejarl · Dec 9, 2019

Halberdier said:
And we'd have a ton of headaches due to brain drain (some elderly would presumably die), and social issues with younger humans being behind schedules due to time blip, so it would also be challenging and could totally count as our disaster of the month... I mean, half decade. See! You totally should do it!

Something from QM chat:

Me: When one of you is around, could one of you please tell me that this joke I made in thread is in fact a bad idea and not something we should actually do? It was a joke when I wrote it but now I'm having a very "grue the henge" sort of moment.

OtherQMWhoShallRemainNameless: It's a bad idea because [etc]

Me: *sigh* You're right. As usual, damnit.

Esryok · Dec 10, 2019

Kiba said:
Calculation for revenue generated by Goketsu Storage Bank:

Let's assume everyone in the city rent a storage seal, population 30K more or less. 30,000 x 50 ryo is 1.5 million ryo per month. But of course, not everyone's willing to come to the storage bank for one reason or another. 3/4 of 30K is 22,500 individuals which gives us 1.125 million ryo per month.

Let assume that all uses are for grocery. We know that people will like to store perishable goods more than goods that aren't, so it's not an everyday occurrence. We'll assume they will go thrice a week for a cost of single ryo each withdrawal/storage action. 3 x 4 is 12 ryo added to the monthly rent. So 50 + 12 is 62 ryo per month.

22,5000 * 62 gives us 1,395,000 ryo per month. 16,740,000 ryo would be the yearly income generated.

Note this doesn't care about for the amount of traffic would be generated if everybody uses our bank, the employee required, the amount of recordkeeping, and all the fun logistics stuff.

Other factors of note:

if primary usage is for household groceries then I expect 1 account per, say, 6 people.
IRL 10 years after refrigerators hit the US market they had reached 25% household saturation. (Technology adoption in US households). Though this isn't a direct comparison, especially with the low price, not every household is going to sign up quickly. Maybe... 1 in 10 over the next year?

Emstar · Dec 10, 2019

eaglejarl said:
Something from QM chat:

Me: When one of you is around, could one of you please tell me that this joke I made in thread is in fact a bad idea and not something we should actually do? It was a joke when I wrote it but now I'm having a very "grue the henge" sort of moment.

OtherQMWhoShallRemainNameless: It's a bad idea because [etc]

Me: *sigh* You're right. As usual, damnit.

HAZOU(reading off of flashcards):Time to check Jiraiya's sealing notes.

KAGOME(reading off of a teleprompter thats only mostly out of camera): There's a sealing array...in here that speeds up the ... rate of time that passes inside an enclosed area ...by a factor of 365.

HAZOU: Wow. How convenient. Why did we not hear about this before?

KAGOME: It is truly... a mystery....

Kiba · Dec 10, 2019

Esryok said:
Other factors of note:

if primary usage is for household groceries then I expect 1 account per, say, 6 people.

IRL 10 years after refrigerators hit the US market they had reached 25% household saturation. (Technology adoption in US households). Though this isn't a direct comparison, especially with the low price, not every household is going to sign up quickly. Maybe... 1 in 10 over the next year?

Good point. I'll adjust estimate.

Also, the price is really low. Rent is literally five bucks a month. Although, I forgot the average income of people in Konoha, so it might not be as cheap as I thought.

Kiba said:
Calculation for revenue generated by Goketsu Storage Bank:

Let's assume everyone in the city rent a storage seal, population 30K more or less. 30,000 x 50 ryo is 1.5 million ryo per month. But of course, not everyone's willing to come to the storage bank for one reason or another, and not everybody needs it. 3/4 of 30K is 22,500 individuals. Assume that those individuals are part of a household with an average size of six, we'll have 3750 accounts.

Let assume that all uses are for grocery. We know that people will like to store perishable goods more than goods that aren't, so it's not an everyday occurrence. We'll assume they will go thrice a week for a cost of single ryo each withdrawal/storage action. 3 x 4 is 12 ryo added to the monthly rent. So 50 + 12 is 62 ryo per month.

3750 * 62 gives us 232,500 ryo per month. 2,790,000 ryo would be the yearly income generated.

Note this doesn't care about for the amount of traffic would be generated if everybody uses our bank, the employee required, the amount of recordkeeping, and all the fun logistics stuff.

So, an account per six individuals really cut down the income potential of our storage bank. However, that is only for one use case. Commercial applications and premium services are not accounted for, not to mention expansion in business cases which would really crank up usage for storage seals.

Still, it's a relief we don't have to produce 22,500 storage seals.

TelosArrangement · Dec 10, 2019

eaglejarl said:
Noburi sighed dramatically. "Fine, whatever. And what, pray tell, are you going to be doing, aside from romancing the lovely Hinata and telling her that no, really, her dad was peachy-keen and not a complete fucktard bigot?"

Hey, I've seen this pop up a few times in thread, and now it's showing up in story. Throwing around "retard" hits pretty close to home, generally sucks, and shifts the overton window to making it more acceptable, like I mentioned.

This is making me really fucking uncomfortable and if it continues, I'm gonna drop the quest rather than have to deal with it. I don't mind the setting specific stuff like "skinwaste" etc, but... yeah.

I thought y'all were better than this, advocating therapy and stuff, talking about spoon theory, and generally being pretty good about progressivism and mental health stuff, and then, well, this. This sucks.

The QM's have had some great insults thrown around before, and some of that stuff was fun and world-buildy and didn't make me and other people feel like shit for aspects of our beings. I love seeing what you can invent without catching real people in the crossfire. Tear fascists and bigots apart, don't get me wrong, but this doesn't hurt them, it hurts me, and people like me, and perpetuates that behaviour. If it's a character-voice thing, then I know you're great writer's and can find a different way to express that voice.

I hope this gets considered, and used for growth. If not, bye, quest was fun while it lasted.

Inferno Vulpix · Dec 10, 2019

MMKII said:
HAZOU(reading off of flashcards):Time to check Jiraiya's sealing notes.

KAGOME(reading off of a teleprompter thats only mostly out of camera): There's a sealing array...in here that speeds up the ... rate of time that passes inside an enclosed area ...by a factor of 365.

HAZOU: Wow. How convenient. Why did we not hear about this before?

KAGOME: It is truly... a mystery....

KAGOME(continuing to read): Unfortunately... there is only one infused copy... and it only functions for four... days as measured from the outside.

HAZOU: Darn. I don't suppose you could learn how to make them?

KAGOME: Not... at my level of ability. These... were made by Jiraiya at his peak.

HAZOU: Well that's a shame. We'll just have to let one of us train in seclusion for four years, then.

Paperclipped · Dec 10, 2019

Kiba said:
Still, it's a relief we don't have to produce 22,500 storage seals.

Realistically, we would probably assign it as homework to 100x Sealing students, something like 5 storage seals a day, 5x a week, for 9 weeks.

Kiba · Dec 10, 2019

Question: Is there a case for the storage bank to exists after civilian usable storage seal is developed? Why or why not?

I think we do, as long we develop business cases. Plus, CUSS will be limited by skills, since presumably it will be harder to infuse and therefore limited in its supply. People may also misuses CUSS in all sort of environments, so there's safety interest in having it in a controlled environment until the safety storage seal is developed.

eaglejarl · Dec 10, 2019

TelosArrangement said:
Hey, I've seen this pop up a few times in thread, and now it's showing up in story. Throwing around "retard" hits pretty close to home, generally sucks, and shifts the overton window to making it more acceptable, like I mentioned.

It took me a second to realize what you meant. It honestly never occurred to me that "fucktard" was a portmanteau derived from retard -- I only knew it as a word unto itself.

I apologize for that -- I would never have used 'retard' and didn't realize I was doing so at second hand. I'll change it.

EDIT: Done.

TelosArrangement · Dec 10, 2019

eaglejarl said:
It took me a second to realize what you meant. It honestly never occurred to me that "fucktard" was a portmanteau derived from retard -- I only knew it as a word unto itself.

I apologize for that -- I would never have used 'retard' and didn't realize I was doing so at second hand. I'll change it.

EDIT: Done.

Thank you, and I'm very glad to hear that!

Cariyaga · Dec 10, 2019

eaglejarl said:
Something from QM chat:

Me: When one of you is around, could one of you please tell me that this joke I made in thread is in fact a bad idea and not something we should actually do? It was a joke when I wrote it but now I'm having a very "grue the henge" sort of moment.

OtherQMWhoShallRemainNameless: It's a bad idea because [etc]

Me: *sigh* You're right. As usual, damnit.

Shhhh. We woudln't break the world with 4 years of XP, don't worry. Just give in.

T_of_A · Dec 10, 2019

eaglejarl said:
I think literally no one has suggested either of these things...?

1 : that was my point
2 : I was shitposting in an attempt to bring the conversation away from potentially infractable topics, seeing as you had (seemingly) settled the matter in a post right above mine.

Noumero said:
Kagome x Ren.

Not even if we deliberately engineer a romantic dynamic such that it is almost certain never to cause a hint of an issue, the way Keiten Shiomaru is set up?

Oh well. Note, however, that I never stated the nature of said seduction. While mentioning @Dictator4Hire was suggestive of the romantic kind, and while it would, in fact, have worked for my purposes, there are different suitable approaches. I'm given to understand that the only problems are romance and sex, and all other kinds of... social and psychological interventions that cause the other agent to stably modify its internal decision-making patterns in ways desirable to us... are on the table as long they don't veer even slightly towards those two, yes? If so, I am sure that I can still make it work.

Hm. This is also the best take. Seems insane, amusing, would lead to the QMs writing fun chapters. 10/10, would vote for if I wanted us to fail horribly at something in a fun way.

roobee said:
@TalonofAnathrax
I don't think the system is counting your vote for Oneiros becuz you spoiled it.

Thank you !
[X] Oneiros

Shadowwarp said:
Hazo x Mari fite me scrublord

> Implying Mari would bother when she already has him wrapped around her finger.

MrCogmor · Dec 10, 2019

I'm a bit confused.

Is Mari the first person to ever think of using biological warfare? Has nobody ever had the idea to slip contaminated materials in merchant shipments going to other countries or other stuff like that and had to develop countermeasures? Is Rock not going to be suspicious at all?

They might not have germ theory but they are going to understand transmission vectors and sterilization procedures. Someone like Orichimaru would have tested ways of deliberately infecting people and ways to avoid to being infected.

apooooop · Dec 10, 2019

@Cariyaga @Oneiros @huhYeahGoodPoint
Bonus points if yall include the great @Lailoken's "7th path peace through chakra beasts". Maybe something from the "Build something new" plan that wasn't implemented because of Chapter 303 being Rock showing up, like:

faflec said:
To Keiko:

Pangolins seem resource-locked: they're long-lived, need breeding licenses, and are highly militaristic, yet much of their population isn't in the military despite being combat-capable.

If we offered to give them safe-but-real combat in the wilderness and make a profit (food, experience, Human Path goodies...), it'd provide a safer alternative to gathering resources that doesn't require conquering other Clans.

hYGP, I probably still won't vote for yours, because I think that we should probably be more focused on removing the clan system, and I worry that opening up adoption just makes us try and re-trench it even more (though if it goes through I'm not super torn, since then we can demonstrate by example how dumb the system is).

EDIT:
Tagging @MMKII as well, as your plan does include a Kei section and talking to her about it might be a good thing to do, didn't originally because you didn't include the dog scroll and I missed the rationale why.

hYGP · Dec 10, 2019

So I decided to read through all the tasks we've got running, circa Chapter 254: The Gōketsu Merchant Empire's Very First and Tiniest Baby Step.

Some of the tasks have stopped for obvious reasons - namely, the Most Youthful Hokage got elected and thus election related things ground to a halt, and also the Most Youthful Hokage was assasinated and the Hokage Tower destroyed by a dastardly set of very focused earthquakes (my, I've heard interesting things about the pattern of southeast to northwest meteor showers, wasn't one supposed to come very close to the EN).

eaglejarl said:
Happiness restored! "Yes! That would be lovely! Um...two, maybe three days? That should be enough for me to arrange everything. Is that too soon? I can wait longer. It's probably too soon. I'm sorry, how long would—"

"Three days will be fine," Keiko said firmly. "Jiraiya may still be here at that time, in which case you could return with the rest of the Leaf contingent. Failing that, I will arrange for two of the Leaf ninja to remain and serve as your escorts." She hesitated. "In the unlikely event that that cannot be arranged, I will hire two Mist ninja to escort you, if that's acceptable?"

eaglejarl said:
You will pack your goods and be prepared to leave one month from today.

eaglejarl said:
"No. I merely needed to finish arranging escorts to Leaf for those merchants. This process was quite pleasant with Rai and most of the others, but I find interactions with Saito to be...wearing." She pursed her lips in annoyance, then visibly chose to shake it off. "And you? Have you said your farewells?"

eaglejarl said:
She scratched barely-visible parallel lines in the frozen dirt to mark where it was safe to step, then gave them a smile and a nod (carefully calculated: friendly yet aloof, an acknowledgement from a woman of superior station to her social inferiors, yet with kindly intent) before heading up the main driveway to the house. She took care to put the tiniest bit of sway in her walk; not enough to seem like she was doing it on purpose, just enough to make the men nervous about entertaining thoughts that could get them executed. Men were easier to manage when they were slightly aroused and slightly nervous, and it left them positively inclined to you in the future.

OliWhail said:
Mr. Hayashi Yūta the miller and Ms. Katō Yūka the furnisher were waiting for her by the gate an hour before noon. Mari wondered briefly if the similarity in their names had helped their relationship - Kenta (no longer Ishihara Kenta, now, but rather Gōketsu Kenta) had told her the two were on good terms and had worked together in the past, and had both worked with his own shop as well. She raised her voice. "Oh, good morning gentlemen! Hayashi, I'm afraid I didn't expect you so early - not that it isn't a pleasure to see you again, but I may be distracted for a bit while these two get sorted out..." Always good to layer a bit of a guilt trip.

eaglejarl said:
reviewing the proposal from a guy who wants to move his sawmill here and rent Force Wall seals

eaglejarl said:
You are approved to have one or more Force Wall sawmills on your estate and rent access to them as you choose so long as the same price is charged to everyone. The price is specified by the Merchant Council and quite low; you are not allowed to change it for one year.

eaglejarl said:
"Right," Kenta said. "We're shopping around for a new and larger storefront. I'd like to hire some more people, and maybe a couple of barkers to spread the word about our new location."

"That's a good start," Mari said, nodding. "If you're interested, after you're established in the new location we could look into other opportunities. You mostly do skilled work as a craftsman, yes? Contract work to put in the decorative wood paneling in a house, things like that?"

"Yes," Kenta nodded. "That, and wooden statuary. Most of my work, anyway."

"How would you feel about going into construction? You've worked with plenty of carpenters, masons, and whatnot who build the houses that you render elegant. Why not hire the best ones and start your own construction company? We can fund it. If Hazō goes forward with this 'clearing land' plan, then it's going to generate a lot more revenue if there are already houses and wells on it."

Kenta's eyebrows went up. "That...would be very interesting. Thank you."

eaglejarl said:
We need Jiraiya's will and any seal notes he might have had so that Kagome-sensei can figure out the most valuable ones and start researching them. Whatever is there, it gives us more utility, more firepower, and more options for things to sell. Beyond that, we need to adopt Naruto if he's willing, although that might be tough without Jiraiya."

Velorien said:
The Toad summoning scroll goes to the Gōketsu, to be bestowed upon whomever the clan selects (along with a note that Naruto is still not eligible to be a summoner no matter how much he whines and no it's not fair but that's how summoning works so shut up brat), as do Jiraiya's personal notes on the politics of the Seventh Path, and his sealing notes. He has also left you a set of notes from his spy network that he never found a use for, including black market contacts, smuggling routes, and blackmail material on certain civilian authorities.

eaglejarl said:
"Speaking of writing things..." Hazō leaned down and pulled a sheaf of storage seals out of the carryall the handle of which was looped over his chair. "Kagome-sensei, these are Jiraiya's sealing notes, plus all the blanks that he left us. I'd like you to look through them and pick out half a dozen seals that you think are the most urgent research targets. Try for a balance of combat power, defensive use, and potential economic value." Hazō had carefully gone through and removed the blanks and notes on Kagome-sensei's seals that he had thoughtlessly given to their former Clan Head. There should now be no trace of his blunder.

eaglejarl said:
"Also," Mari said, "I've been going through Jiraiya's notes about the local underworld. I need to know who the players are before I reach out, but I definitely want to get the nightwalkers' ideas on how things work and any blackmail they can turn up. I've also started looking into some of the minor clans on the council, trying to get a handle on their business so we can find the best way to pry them loose from the Hyūga. Both of those parts are barely begun; the other stuff kept me pretty busy."

eaglejarl said:
Hazō nodded. "Good point. That's your job, then. Go to the Tower and figure out who you need to sweet talk in order to find us a top squad of clanless ninja. Take into account their combat skills, utility jutsu, disciplinary history, and anything else you think is relevant."

eaglejarl said:
"Dossiers for my top three adoption candidates. I went through about sixty potentials. Seven of them were killed in the Collapse, but only one of those was on the short list. I did a final winnowing and this is what's left. We've got one adoption slot left for this year, so pick your favorite."

eaglejarl said:
How would you feel about teaching groups? I'm thinking maybe we train these people to the point where they can become assets. Teach them calligraphy, get them work as scribes. Teach them enough math that they can do accounting. Maybe some of them could become tutors for wealthy families. What do you think?"

Kagome-sensei's eyes lit up with an unholy fire and his fingers began tapping together frantically. "Yesss. Yes, I could absolutely do that! And then those stinkers in the Academy will see that I'm a way better teacher than any of them!"

"They won't be ninja," Noburi cautioned. "The Academy instructors probably won't count it if it's just civilians."

eaglejarl said:
"I...I thought it was really interesting, My Lord. It was beautiful. Like ninjutsu, only purer." He struggled. "They're real, the numbers. Realer than I am, I think, even though I can't touch them. They...." He struggled for another moment, then shrugged helplessly.

Kagome-sensei studied him for another moment, then sniffed. "Ten tomorrow morning in the solarium. Don't be late."

eaglejarl said:
"I would like to hire you," Hazō said. "And please, skip the 'Lord'."

"I see. And may I ask who my student would be, Gōketsu?"

eaglejarl said:
negotiating with Ebisu to continue his training program for the five of his KEI students who survived the Collapse

eaglejarl said:
putting together the curriculum for the new school that I'm building here on the property

eaglejarl said:
I completely bought out one of the suppliers. A good chunk of Leaf is going to be hurting for salt for a while, but that should just improve market conditions. When we get our first load in I'll divide it evenly between all the salt merchants, no charge. That way there's nothing for the Merchant Council to bitch about, it gets the stuff into circulation quickly, and it will establish our credentials as a supplier of good merchandise. Later on we'll see if we can get some disaster relief funds from the Tower to offset our costs. And, of course, we'll start charging."

eaglejarl said:
The work was exacting, annoying, and brutally boring. The temperature had to be managed very carefully to ensure that the freezing water did not take too much salt with it. The only way to verify was to lick the ice and see if it tasted salty. If it did, the tray had to be taken out and heated over a fire until it re-melted, then they tried again. Periodically, Akane needed to re-cast the Elemental Mastery jutsu, since at her current level of skill it only lasted about an hour and a half.

eaglejarl said:
You spent the evening slot talking to the Amori. They need a couple days to think it over and they may come back to you with requested values for the tokens.

eaglejarl said:
"If things go badly, it's a subterranean fortress surrounded by natural defenses, with a river nearby that we can run across in order to escape into another country without leaving any tracks on the way." He chuckled. "If things go well, it's land that we can clear and make money on, especially after we blow a hole in the retaining wall that keeps that lake in. We just need to be careful to put the hole on the southern side and we'll suddenly have an extra half-mile of land that we can figure out something for."

Mari laughed.

Velorien said:
"All right," Hazō said. "So if we can make it look like they contacted us first, that's very different to us bypassing Hyūga and doing something he can declare as treason. They contact us, we talk, then we bring the matter to him 'as soon as we could', and there's a big difference between him rejecting a new idea from us and rejecting a proposal from the world's single most powerful force."

He grinned the grin of a man invited to formulate a cunning plan with high stakes and high rewards, one which would probably even involve making lists.

"Now we just have to figure out how."

Velorien said:
"Why is that?"

Yuno swallowed. "Because she's the only one who can save Isan now."

Velorien said:
Hiashi intends to send Hazō, Keiko, Mari, and Kabuto to Isan. There will be at least one Hyūga monitor, and potentially other hand-picked Leaf ninja. Mari notes that the Gōketsu will be vulnerable without both her and Hazō, but the orders have been given. However, the expedition cannot commence until the Yuno issue is settled, determining whether it will be Noburi or an "unspecified" Hyūga husband that accompanies her.

eaglejarl said:
I'm managing food and other logistics for six hundred people

eaglejarl said:
For the next twelve hours, Hazō parceled out his chakra into Multiple Earth Walls as carefully as possible. He arranged for scavenging teams to check the ruined parts of Leaf for anything salvageable—bedding, food, building materials, anything. He managed a steady stream of questions and requests from people who usually knew the answers perfectly well and just wanted reassurance. He pulled the Gōketsu treasury out of storage scrolls a bag at a time and sent the money off to every merchant or craftsman that could help with creating housing for the hundreds of refugees that had flooded in once they heard that a ninja clan was willing to take care of them. He pulled a child out of a hole in the floor of the house, deposited her back at the crèche where the other orphaned young children were being cared for by a trio of run-ragged teenagers, and told them to watch her more carefully. He sent two older women over to help out the clearly overloaded teenagers. He broke up three fights between civilians arguing over who had first claim on the limited supply of tools. Mostly, he did his best to stay calm and seem confident at all times; Mari had always been clear that this was the true secret to being in charge: Look like you knew what you were doing and keep everyone calm and on task.

eaglejarl said:
The former Shimura clan's estate lay outside of Leaf, sprawling north for a triple-dozen acres from where its south edge abutted the city's wall. The Shimura weren't using the land anymore, seeing as the last member of the clan, Shimura Danzō, had died more than a decade ago due to a terminal case of stupidity. (He forgot to check his fences enough; one fine night, something got in and ate him.) The house had fallen to ruin, even more than the Gōketsu-now-Orochimaru estate had been, and barely even constituted a shelter at this point. The walls had huge holes in them that had let in the weather and rotted the floor. The roof sagged where it hadn't collapsed and the sky was visible from every room. The four-poster bed from the second-floor master bedroom now held ruined court over the first-floor dining hall after the complete collapse of the bedroom's floor. There were animal nests and bird droppings everywhere.

eaglejarl said:
The Gōketsu 'dining room' (and sleeping quarters, and and and...) was a large canvas tent squatting in the middle of the Forest of Death a mile outside the walls of Leaf on land that the clan did not, speaking very technically, own. Still, it was what they had and there was nothing to do but make the best of it. Especially since the several hundred people, civilians and ninja both, who shared the encampment had nothing better. Mari had complimented Hazō on recognizing the wisdom of ensuring that the Gōketsu quarters were larger but not better than anyone else's; it struck, she said, a good balance between projecting authority and importance while also demonstrating solidarity and concern.

eaglejarl said:
"Of course, I wouldn't be inclined to give it to them free," he added, lying through his teeth. "I mean, we might have to, but I was thinking maybe we could form a pool; everyone who wants to participate puts a bunch of money in the pot as a bond, along with a jutsu that no one else knows. Everyone in the pool gets all the jutsu and evaluates them. If one person decides that their contribution was not equal in value to the other techniques then they can decide to pony up one or more extras to make it balance. Then there's a round of voting to determine if anyone cheated by not providing value commensurate to everyone else. If anyone gets a majority of votes then their bond is divided among everyone and they aren't allowed to participate in future pools. The idea could be used for other types of collective bargaining, too—trading resources or whatever."

Everyone digested that.

"So it's basically poker except there's no cards?" Noburi asked.

Hazō shrugged. "I mean...sort of? I did think of the analogy while I was coming up with it, but that wasn't the key part. And there's failure modes, like people getting strategically voted out even though they didn't cheat. Still, it's a prototype plan and we could have everyone brainstorm improvements before we did it."

"Huh."

"I ftill fay if f'upid," Kagome-sensei grunted. He paused to swallow and then swished his mouth out with some tea. "Shouldn't be giving out our best stuff."

Hazō shrugged. "It's just an idea. Still, we're a brand new clan composed of two clanless ninja and what used to be four genin. We don't have a lot of secrets to trade, and we'd be getting more than we gave. One technique from every other member of the pool in exchange for only one technique from us."

eaglejarl said:
"Kazunori, go into the city and hire a Leaf ninja—only a Leaf ninja, not a Rock ninja—who knows the Multiple Earth Wall jutsu. Be sure they understand that it's not urgent; we don't want to interfere with their assigned duties or their family responsibilities. There's plenty of work to do and it will be here when they have time." He untied the bag to reveal that it contained a set of smaller bags, each one a square of leather with the corners folded together and tied with a bit of blue twine.

eaglejarl said:
signing off on building designs for the housing we're putting up

eaglejarl said:
dealing with contractors to ensure that buildings go up

eaglejarl said:
Hazō and Kagome were doing the rounds, meeting all the people who lived on their land in an effort to connect with them and boost morale.

eaglejarl said:
You have had at least brief contact with everyone on your estate.

eaglejarl said:
managing a bunch of Academy students and genin as they put together a census of everyone on the property which they think is a complete waste of time since 'they are only civilians'

eaglejarl said:
The storage seal bank is running, having been approved with suspicious speed by the Merchant Council. Uptake is slow but will probably pick up.

eaglejarl said:
signing off on a rental agreement for a store front where we can run the bank

eaglejarl said:
Welcome to the Gōketsu First Bank and Trust

eaglejarl said:
you have a good supply of chakra

eaglejarl said:
You have started the process of assembling a chakra-beast farm for Noburi to drain from. At this point it's only a couple of pens with some firegoats inside. The goats have an unfortunate habit of eating one another but you're working on it.

eaglejarl said:
helping put together a medical clinic

eaglejarl said:
sending letters to everyone I can think of who might have the authority to change the rules about the sealmaster workshop before Kagome-sensei blows up the everything

eaglejarl said:
reviewing Mari's suggestions about what to do with the Merchant Council

From this, I'm pulling out a list of running tasks for each clanmember:

Hazou
- Generally reviewing and approving proposals
  - the paperwork, it never fucking ends....
- Local Merchant Empire:
  - Sawmills:
    - Proposals, awaiting metaphorical groundbreaking. Low amount of revenue, cannot change prices for one year.
- Adoption:
  - Interviewing Candidates:
    - In-progress in all plans, IIRC.
  - Pushing for higher ceiling:
    - Some plans.
- Civilian Leadership
  - Census project:
    - In-progress
  - Initial visit/morale booster: DONE
  - Managing food and other logistics:
    - permanently in-progess.
  - Ultimate Judge on land
    - never ends
      - unless...?
- Civilian Housing
  - House construction:
    - 3 days ago:
      - 4 residential units, housing 2 comfortably and 4 less so.
      - Tent housing for everybody else.
    - Present: unknown, but progress has happened TM.
- Educational Programs
  - Goketsu University
    - In progress, probably low on the priority list tbh
  - Ebisu's ~~Six~~Five
    - In progress, very little information OOC.
- Noburi's Chakra Sources
  - Always a minor source of work.
- Goketsu Clinic
  - Being organized.
- Kagome's Explosive Reaction to Sweatshops
  - In-progress, though so far, little traction - and little time to observe results.
- Merchant Council
  - Mari's got em, processing what to do with them.
Noburi:
- Adoption screening: DONE
- Goketsu Clinic:
  - Unclear
- Secretary search and vetting:
  - Just assigned
- Isan - Preparation Phase
  - "in-progress" eyebrow waggle
Akane:
- Adjudicating for Hazou and almost certainly being an unpaid secretary:
  - in-progress.
Mari:
- Owning the Merchant Council: DONE
- Acting in the Goketsu Clan's best interests:
  - in-progress???
Kagome:
- SEALING IN A SWEATSHOP
  - oh god oh fuck -
- May be interested in education, if we can get him out of the sweatshop.
Keiko*: May be available for some projects, but Nara are a demanding clan.
Akane's Parents:
- Construction business possibly mentioned, unsure of where that went.
Unresolved:
- Isan - Expedition Phase
  - Pre-requisites:
    - Marriage/working it out between Noburi and Yuno
    - Keiko's cooperation
- Floating Jutsu Exchange
  - Could be executed, could be saved for later. Unknown as of this moment.
- "Shimura" "Estate"
  - Tabled in most plans.
- Salt Empire
  - Tabled due to lack of free time. May need to prepare for salt crunch soonish.
- Akatsuki Suggestion
  - Unsure if this ever went anywhere.
- International Merchant Empire
  - Should've arrived almost a month ago. Whatever did happen to those guys?
- The Wild, Goketsu-owned, West
  - Tabled until situation stabilizes, I believe.

...

thread, perhaps it is time we employ the most effective art known to all humanity:

d e l e g a t i o n

roobee · Dec 10, 2019

To anyone trying to do something similar to good point this post is an accumulation of things I've found of note. Warning: very long and not the most concise

Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

Inferno's Side Project Cache gives a good overview. Below is some additional stuff, although some might qualify as short term. Learning Biosealing Pangolin genocide Mari’s mental health Buying stuff at a discount from those merchants we invited to Leaf Reconnect with the Yakuza set up a...

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If enough people find it useful I might signature it

@TalonofAnathrax
My bad, I didn't realize you set your settings to make username votes count as their last vote instead of all their votes. So spoiling might work too, I dunno.

Kiba · Dec 10, 2019

@huhYeahGoodPoint We get revenue from the sawmill renting space on our "property" more than we would get by renting our force wall.

Inferno Vulpix · Dec 10, 2019

So I finally found time to do a proper overhaul of the Plan Cache. Some items are gone, some items are new, and some of the remaining ones are rephrased to account for new situations. They are also now loosely categorized by what context they apply to, for easier mental sorting.

Inferno Vulpix said:
Plan Cache:

General:

Forbidden Lore.

Pangolin chakra-beast-killing military training plan.

Develop jutsu exchange program.

Adoption plans:

Yuno/Kaiyo/Aya/Haru?

Raise adoption limits?

Buy other clan's slots?

In-Leaf:

Free Kagome from the sweatshops.

Spit out all those Tower Seals we definitely memorized.

Formalize ownership of Shimura Estate.

Goketsu Academy (or w/e we do with that)

Goketsu Clinic (maybe?)

Teaching KEI members:

Sub-goal: scouting for overlooked talent.

Hazou and Kagome for sealing theory (just theory), Noburi for medicine.

Out-of-Leaf:

Find, rebuild, and re-key Jiraiya's contacts/network.

Make sure to look into the Yakuza.

Clear the land we bought.

Scale up Salterns.

Past Major Plans:
Good Mourning Major Clans by huhYeahGoodPoint

Something Old, Something New by faflec

Rules of the Plan Cache:

Get Support. The Plan Cache is for ideas that already have support of a sizeable chunk of the playerbase, not for ideas that someone wants to advocate later. For a benchmark, your idea should have enough support to be in one of the major plans of a cycle if there was room in the plan.

Short-term. The Plan Cache is for ideas that we intend to implement in the next few updates, or more loosely within the same rough story arc. If you have an idea beyond that temporal scope, I have another post storing those ideas so ask me to put it there instead of cluttering up our short-term storage.

Sometimes when we're making a plan we have a good idea that's just outside the temporal scope of the update, but we don't want to cut it from the plan because we might forget by the next cycle. This adds unnecessary words that could have been spent fleshing out the rest of the plan, and may outright cost XP in the worst cases.

This plan cache will hold these subsections so they don't fall into the void between planning cycles. Just ping me with the subsection and, unless it's wildly unreasonable, I'll edit it into the post. I'll keep them there for a while until they either make it into a winning plan, fall out of favour, or the context significantly changes. Depending on circumstances, they might end up in my Side Project Cache, or they might be dropped, and I'll make sure to be transparent about what I'm doing.

I'll do my best to quote this post after every update, so that planmakers can get an easy reminder about what we never quite got to last cycle.

Kiba · Dec 10, 2019

MMKII said:
Try to remove pox blankets from plan due to difficulty of controlling pox and Tsunade's likely violent objection.

I prefer to replace it with:

Talk to Mari. Hazo is confused. Spreading plague might backfire on us, and Tsunade will be really mad.

Why? Trying to remove pox blanket from the plan is an unconstrained directive. Hazo might do things that are...unadvisable, like tell Tsunade.

faflec · Dec 10, 2019

Kiba said:
I prefer to replace it with:

Talk to Mari. Hazo is confused. Spreading plague might backfire on us, and Tsunade will be really mad.

Why? Trying to remove pox blanket from the plan is an unconstrained directive. Hazo might do things that are...unadvisable, like tell Tsunade.

I'd actually agree with this, @MMKII; even if you end up keeping the plan to remove pox blankets Kiba's suggestion is a better way to phrase it.

Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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