- Location
- NY
Robert Oppenheimer weeps in despair for he knows he can never become as Destroyer of Worlds-y as Morezou.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Robert Oppenheimer weeps in despair for he knows he can never become as Destroyer of Worlds-y as Morezou.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Ami when we where in Mist was mostly tolerable. She was competent but working at an acceptable level. Ami Post battle of the gods a force of nature who is playing politics at a level past social spec S-rankers. She waltz in to enemy territory and freely manipulated their politics. She has essentially become a Marry Sue in my opinion. She constantly breaks my suspension of disbelief. This is further contrasted with how Hazō is treated as basically total fuck up even though they are very close to the same age.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I acknowledge you.
No. And they never were, either.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Not really. The discussion does nothing for us. I'd like to show some initiative
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
[X] Action Plan: The People's Liberation Army
Wordcount: 172
Goals: Refugee processing, recruitment, Snake and Nakano dinner
Complete critical actions in given order, other actions in any order.
Afternoon:
[Critical] Get that list of injuries, sicknesses and needs from Bunji. Resolve them swiftly, delegating to Goketsu clan members and able-bodied civilians where reasonable.
Begin organizing the refugees into smaller units, nominating leaders to represent and resolve issues within units. Preference given to keeping families within the same unit.
Thank Tsunade.
Invite Naruto to dinner.
Mingle with refugees.
Determine refugee skills.
Affirm Goketsu's willingness to lend ninja strength to civilian affairs. Explain and affirm Goketsu dedication to Uplift as a philosophy. Request their support.
Request assistance with organizing construction teams.
Act with humility.
Evening:
Ensure that we are semiformal, but not full dress. Respect Snake and Nakano's efforts to be presentable.
Discuss aftermath of the recent Sealing failure. Are their family and friends alright? Is there anything we can do for them?
Discuss retainership concept: not formal adoption, formalized contractors-with-benefits. Possible benefits may include Sealing knowledge, custom seal requests, medic-nin assistance, etc.
Who was Yudai, again?
[X] Action Plan: Head to Head
Word count: 83
Wordcount: 172
Goals: Refugee processing, recruitment, Snake and Nakano dinner
Complete critical actions in given order, other actions in any order.
Afternoon:
[Critical] Get that list of injuries, sicknesses and needs from Bunji. Resolve them swiftly, delegating to Goketsu clan members and able-bodied civilians where reasonable.
Begin organizing the refugees into smaller units, nominating leaders to represent and resolve issues within units. Preference given to keeping families within the same unit.
Thank Tsunade.
Invite Naruto to dinner.
Mingle with refugees.
Determine refugee skills.
Affirm Goketsu's willingness to lend ninja strength to civilian affairs. Explain and affirm Goketsu dedication to Uplift as a philosophy. Request their support.
Request assistance with organizing construction teams.
Act with humility.
Evening:
Ensure that we are semiformal, but not full dress. Respect Snake and Nakano's efforts to be presentable.
Discuss aftermath of the recent Sealing failure. Are their family and friends alright? Is there anything we can do for them?
Discuss retainership concept: not formal adoption, formalized contractors-with-benefits. Possible benefits may include Sealing knowledge, custom seal requests, medic-nin assistance, etc.
Who was Yudai, again?
[X] Action Plan: Head to Head
Word count: 83
- Afternoon:
- Renegotiate the contract per this post.
- Take Mari off the Uchiha renegotiation for now.
- Go to the Uchiha Clan Head with the contract.
- Renegotiate, Clan Head to Clan Head.
- Tone: Amicable and firm. Stay on topic.
- Renegotiate the contract per this post.
- Evening
- Respect Snake and Nakano's efforts to be presentable.
- Discuss the recent Sealing failure.
- Are their families and friends alright?
- If not, anything we can do for them?
- Discuss retainership concept: not formal adoption, formalized contractors-with-benefits.
- Possible benefits:
- Sealing knowledge
- Custom seal requests
- Medic-nin assistance
- etc.
- Possible benefits:
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- Location
- Yes.
I express confusion with your response. In the proposal I outlined, we would still be getting a deal out to the Uchiha which will be either accepted or fully declined, which solves your issues of "moving things forward" and "actually making progress".
Your response claims your issues to be, from my understanding, that the discussion has no value and does not show initiative. I cannot reply to the value of the discussion as I do not know what you would consider a valuable discussion, but surely you can see that we are taking positive action (read: initiative) to make the deal with the Uchiha?
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Their friend from The Clanless Perspective, Jitto.
AKA "Smiles Seducerino"
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Yes the initiative is good. The discussion however does not give the player base anything. We have our demands that the Uchiha can accept or not. We don't need to waste QMs spoons writing a discussion. We do not need to waste plan space. We can just move this forward. By talking we just delay and give the hivemind less time and information to act in the future. The opportunity cost is to high
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
Rule 2: Please do not treat women as objects to be passed around.
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we should see how he feels about Uchiha girls
Also, I think the dinner sections in both are insufficient; could anyone give me an idea of what we could talk about aside from "Jiraiya" and "be my agents, gang"?
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Ask them how their families are doing . Were they hit at all by the tragedy? Is there anything we can do to help?
- Location
- Italy
Remember the Ami date? The gigantic amount of wasted time it created because we decided NPC are not actual people and therefore we could ignore them as we wished?
This is Ami Date, But worse.
IIRC at least Noburi must partecipate, unless we want to make only IN and Sharingan babies, so, how much time will we waste when/if he goes ballistic?
- Location
- Kiev, Ukraine
Cooking? Most Recent Sealing Incident? Bunch of civvies on our lawn?
- Location
- Yes.
Right, so some of this stuff I disagree with you on, though I do understand your reasoning. Speaking for myself only, I think the discussion does give us the benefit of sanity checking this with the others, such that IF Mari is compromised in some negative fashion we aren't stabbing ourselves in the foot by having her be our only backup when negotiating with the Uchiha. It also avoids the future drama of what will happen when the rest of the clan finds out about it, which is solved by having them know from the get-go.
Other stuff...I don't see it. Yes, if you think the scene is unnecessary we'd just be wasting QM spoons to write the discussion, but we're still moving things forward and aren't delaying anything. By my reckoning Mari is still going to get the deal over to the Uchiha and make a final draft, with no more discussion. That's not something that will take a week, that's the work of two or three hours, if I'm reading the speed Mari's working at correctly. I don't see the opportunity cost of 2-3 hours as being too high, and I'm not even sure what information cost will be lost here (though, admittedly, I'm not sure what I'm even working with on information cost).
Side note: I think I'd be willing to go to the Uchiha IFF we sanity-check the plan with the clan in general. We'd have to talk to Mari about our concerns anyway (and no, I'm not willing to consider us dropping our counter-demands on the Uchiha without running it by someone trustworthy first), and if the others are available why not do that as well?
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
Huh, I never really considered that. Maybe Hidan is actually the world's preeminent altruist, and the most good anyone can hope to accomplish really is to kill them all and let Jashin-sama sort them out.
Armageddon is looking better and better.
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Quest tag?
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
Hmmm. Maybe we should have used the favor just to have Ami tell us exactly what she is trying to achieve (especially in Leaf, but also in general), and how she is trying to achieve it.
Raxner
The most dangerous man in an empty room
- Location
- Israel
Personally, I'd prefer eliminating her. She's smarter than all of us (Keiko maybe excepted), and she's completely unpredictable. She's the most dangerous character we've come across, Zabuza included, and her death would go a long way to making us more secure.
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- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
"My wish is for you to tell me the exact ways in which I'm doomed."
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
It's fine. I've made my preference known and it's not very persuasive. Let's just have the discussion
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
That's a really good idea. I'm actually going to replace the Jiraiya section with that, because it flows way better into the retainership discussion and is likely to be a decent amount of discussion.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Hmm. So I think one thing she could do is have us do the above, but set us up to be the sympathetic hero campaigning for the downtrodden clanless folk etc etc so that the Shimura faction hard aligns with us for making fhe attempt in the face of staunch opposition, giving us effective control over a couple dozen dudes.
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Noumero
Omit Needless Words
- Resurrection techniques.
- Ways to assassinate locally omniscient jounin (no relation).
- Dungeon crawling in search for phylacteries.
- Pointedly frown at Snake while bringing up this one.
- The undispellable specter of Akatsuki's prospective apocalyptic rampage.
- Sealing Failures and How to Exploit Them 101.
- Whether anyone has any interest in defecting to Snow, or maybe Depths.
- What's in Bear.
- WMDs.
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Fuck that, we'll drag them kicking and screaming back from the afterlife to fix what they broke or so help me.
- Location
- Academy City
- Pronouns
- They
Ami's the worst and doesn't deserve to be in the story, more at eleven.
So what's our plan for our free slot? I'm thinking we need to get the thing with the Uchiha sorted asap. We can get Naruto in for a clan meeting, and we still need to do the final negotiations (which will need Hazou, Mari, and Naruto on the Gouketsu side and Sasuke and his regent on the Uchiha side). If we're lucky we can get both of those things listed under a single slot but that depends on QMs being nice (which shouldn't be presumed). Aside from that, we've got a slot for dinner with Snake and Nakano. Maybe we can come up with shenanigans to do there. Schemes to involve them in. Offer them a trade of favours to go run an errand for us, maybe? I'unno, I'm just trying to think of how to make the best use of this time.
So what's our plan for our free slot? I'm thinking we need to get the thing with the Uchiha sorted asap. We can get Naruto in for a clan meeting, and we still need to do the final negotiations (which will need Hazou, Mari, and Naruto on the Gouketsu side and Sasuke and his regent on the Uchiha side). If we're lucky we can get both of those things listed under a single slot but that depends on QMs being nice (which shouldn't be presumed). Aside from that, we've got a slot for dinner with Snake and Nakano. Maybe we can come up with shenanigans to do there. Schemes to involve them in. Offer them a trade of favours to go run an errand for us, maybe? I'unno, I'm just trying to think of how to make the best use of this time.