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I'm sorry but I am not. With Naruto we are without a doubt the strongest clan militarily.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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With Naruto we are likely the strongest clan in a straight fight. That being said, ninja.
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Leaving aside that he just got out of the hospital after months of captivity, multiple people questioning this means that there is at least a doubt. But is posturing in the thread won't get either of our goals done, so shall we focus on Vulpix's schedule slots?
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For the Schedule:
- Do we want to meet with Tsunade, or have Akane continue handling that?
- I say given the new time constraints we delay the Mari problem till after, before I was all for it since I expected another month at least.
- We need to add a meeting with Shikamaru, perhaps including Keiko.
- I haven't see any serious objections to the Hagomoro deal for awhile, most are just people wondering if we can cut the payments. We should schedule a time for a final meeting to finalize the deal, including any terms we want to change.
- Setup a meeting with Sasuke and Naruto to discuss the Uchiha deal. This one should be ASAP.
- Meeting with the fire Yakuza. This can fit into any otherwise free slot.
- If possible meet with Ami to call in the favor. What should it be used for?
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That's one of my major theories. Magic as humans think of it just plain doesn't work from a physically parsimonious perspective, so any universe which appears to have it automatically starts with a heavy weight on humanish agents having been involved in its design.
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I mean, though, isn't that kind of cheating? Sure, you can assume that humans were involved in its design, but, we already knew that. What the evidence actually points to is that there are some humans involved in its design, and to the hivemind they're known quantities (Kishimoto -> Eaglejarl, Velorien, Oliwhail).
To use a poor metaphor: if a baseball hits you in the face from the left, it's probably been thrown by a person to your left. You could posit a whole wave of probability clouds of each possible place the thrower could have stood. But if you saw the pitcher wind up and throw the ball that hits you, it doesn't seem epistemologically valid to use the baseball impact as evidence of a second person off to your left.
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(((EDIT: Some questions that were answered have been snipped out because they've served their purpose and I want this post to be about the action slots.)))
The vote for Hokage is in a week from the end of chapter 271. To speed things along, you get 3 action slots per day. Each slot can be filled with only one thing, and it must be basically one self-contained scene. I'm maintaining the list here and crossing things out as they go onscreen:
The vote ending on July 10 should relate to what you want to do with your meetings on Jan 9.
EDIT: These are now out of date.
The vote for Hokage is in a week from the end of chapter 271. To speed things along, you get 3 action slots per day. Each slot can be filled with only one thing, and it must be basically one self-contained scene. I'm maintaining the list here and crossing things out as they go onscreen:
Jan 8----Evening: Dinner with Snake, Nakano's team, Yudai
Jan 9:Morning slot: Lunch with InoAfternoon: ChōzaEvening: Dinner with Asuma
Jan 10:Morning: ShinoAfternoon: MinamiDinner: Keiko
Jan 11:--Afternoon: Minori--
EDIT: These are now out of date.
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We're not. We're projected to fall horribly into debt very soon. Being able to create many Skywalkers can keep us solvent, but that's hardly being on top economically. Also, how long can we really keep it up before Kagome starts complaining/refusing because his greatest fear is being stuck in a sealsmithing sweatshop and this is just a voluntarily imposed version of one? Maybe we will be an economic powerhouse soon due to our various plans, but until that happens....well, there's a saying about the proper time to count chickens.
We're not. At all. If we were, we wouldn't be considering plans to sell children and bankrupt the clan in order to avoid having our greatest political (and possibly existential) enemy become ninja king against our dedicated efforts. We may be soon, if certain plans work out like we hope, but that's a big if.
We're not. Naruto is a tremendous military asset, and not a Goketsu yet. We have one Jonin (Mari), three Chunin (Hazou, Kagome, Noburi), one Genin (Akane) and that's about it. Noburi has the Toad Scroll but won't likely be able to use it for weeks/months, if ever. Hazou and Kagome are sealmasters - who would likely never have the chance to use their seals against a serious Jonin, look at Minami's death scene from not that long ago in-story (3 months ago?) to see how woefully incapable Hazou and Noburi were against the suspected Jonin who didn't even seem interested enough in actually killing them. Mari may be excellent at CQC, but do we think she'd dominate a Jonin from any other clan that's more naturally marshal than she is as a primarily genjutsu user? No we don't. Do we have plans to become militarily dominant? Absolutely. But again, there's that saying about the right and wrong times to enumerate chickens.
Humans can model worlds in ways which don't include magic. The fact that magic exists in this one means that, if they're taking the rationalist approach deep enough, there's good reason to suspect that something roughly humanish inside the narrative was involved in its creation.
It's possible that the existence of magic is just a fiat authorial indulgence here, but that doesn't feel safe to assume. If we really approach our observations from a rational perspective, then the existence of magic allows one to deduce the existence of something along the lines of Ra from the very first chapter.
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I've been thinking of Ra as a decent model for MfD for a long time, regardless of whether that's reasonable or not.
I just really like black!Zetsu = Ra leftovers, what with the ability to control people's bodies and such.
@eaglejarl Since you're in thread right now, quick question. Some chapters ago when Minami was alive and linking up with the group, there was a line to the extent of Hazou could see her ten miles off. The next line was about her dust trail spiraling into the sky or some such. Did Hazou see her from ten miles away, or her dust trail? I'll try to find a quote.
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We should totally start ranting to Kagome about the danger posed by the "Black Lupchanzen."
Wait, nevermind. He already divides them into two groups.
The guy whose code is immune to editing and who insists that ninja magic is a relic artificial intelligence created by a vastly more prosperous and powerful precursor civilization...
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Her dust trail.
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In the plan for 271 we expressed intent to set up meetings 'later this week' with Shino, Minami, Keiko, and Minori. Would you like us to explicitly schedule those meetings properly in this next plan with appropriate slots to fit in?
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Bah.
Fine, added them to the list above. That's the current default arrangement pending strong feelings from the players. I'd prefer not to have the exact scheduling of these meetings become a major focus of the discussion because I think there's more important things to worry about; if y'all want to change them you can, but unless there's a good reason it would probably make sense to roll with it as is. Still, up to y'all.
Seriously? If this team had to decide on a plan to shut down the overloading warp core we'd spend a hundred pages arguing about what color to paint the escape pods. (-and nobody would even hear me)
Personally (not that it would ever matter), I favor yellow because it doesn't sacrifice too much albedo while still presenting an obviously artificial spectrograph, though that naturally depends on the predicted threat environment.
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Don't make me come over there.
Also, the term you want is "bikeshedding".
Huh. I am genuinely surprised that that existed while not also already being in my toolbox. Much obliged. Your aid in my inevitable ascent shall be properly memorialized.
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I personally like that spacing, and appreciate you slotting that in for us. I think it's about to be an interesting and fun week (And corresponding month IRL).
Also, thread, even with this new time crunch, can we make sure we don't forgot about the 200 civilians in our back yard we said we'd help in the morning?
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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I actually want to get Kenta's construction business jumpstarted by hiring capable individuals from this pool and using them + all the lumber we collected from our backyard to at the very least:
- Rebuild all their houses
- Rebuild shops that were totalled.
- Rebuild the Nara compound,
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- Yes.
Kill the Hyuga?
