Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
ME: "SCP discussion, what did I miss?"
*rereads*
ME: "Ah, that is slightly less worrisome..."
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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
ME: "SCP discussion, what did I miss?"
*rereads*
ME: "Ah, that is slightly less worrisome..."
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm afraid you're not cleared to know whether there's been an SCP discussion.
- Location
- Galicia,Spain
The talk about the omake reminds me we haven't revolutionized leafs industry creative application of the unexplored properties of Force Walls yet.
We should probably get arround doing that.
We should probably get arround doing that.
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Unaligned Player
Agony that desires to meet Extinction
- Location
- Adrift between sanity and madness
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- Shrug
These are an experienced group of veterans. I'm sure there is a perfectly good reason they haven't done this.
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JulieK
Unintentionally funny
- Location
- Israel
Let's respect his agency and let him handle it.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
Mostly because a) everything has been fire and pain since Naruto got kidnapped and b) the Merchant Council, despite being designed to prevent ninja from giving civilian craftsmen and merchants a raw deal in the short term, are a net negative for Leaf and Fire as a whole insofar as they prevent us from seismic tossing their bullshit fuedal economy into the next era with seal-tech virtually overnight.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
We could always make our town just a bit outside of Konoha, walled up with MEW...
- Location
- The Void
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- She/Her
I've always advocated just going out and doing spice and wolf shenanigans outside of leaf.
Fair. I should have phrased that as, "is Kagome aware of that entrance?"
Perhaps the very best illustration of the difference between reality simulationist and Campellian monomyth in the history of ever.
Also, fuck the Sage. Fuck him sideways with an everything.
I don't think I've mentioned this yet, but I'm beginning to suspect that Fifi is secretly the Grue.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
You have. Fifi probably just ate the memory.
All the big towns have MC, largest business we can do is in Leaf, and ninja activities are restricted to mission length. If we want to do anything important, it's important for us to start breaking down the business barrier where we live and open up communications(as much it scares paranoid ninja).
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- The Void
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- She/Her
Our we could just ignore those merchant councils. Going ahead and doing things is the best course
What do you mean by that?
- Location
- Yes.
My impression of the MC thus far is that doing small-scale stuff as we've done before won't be noticeable and we can get away with it, but large-scale projects like selling salt or ice in bulk is gonna get spotted and eventually come to bite us in the ass, even if we do our selling outside of any MC's jurisdiction.
Personally I feel we need a lot more information about the MC and the lines they've drawn before we can decide upon how we're going to be doing things. Questions like "How did Jiraiya sell the Pangolin diamonds for cash if he got them from a ninja-privileged source and doesn't have a license to sell diamonds?" or "If clan members can sell seals to each other freely, would that allow Ishihara Kenta to use Force Walls to enhance profits in his business without being restricted by the MC?" are just some of the things I could think of that we should know.
Edit to the above: That being said, I'd like to explore selling stuff to the Seventh Path for diamonds or other easy-to-sell-legally-by-the-MC's-definition stuff.
Personally I feel we need a lot more information about the MC and the lines they've drawn before we can decide upon how we're going to be doing things. Questions like "How did Jiraiya sell the Pangolin diamonds for cash if he got them from a ninja-privileged source and doesn't have a license to sell diamonds?" or "If clan members can sell seals to each other freely, would that allow Ishihara Kenta to use Force Walls to enhance profits in his business without being restricted by the MC?" are just some of the things I could think of that we should know.
Edit to the above: That being said, I'd like to explore selling stuff to the Seventh Path for diamonds or other easy-to-sell-legally-by-the-MC's-definition stuff.
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- The Void
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- She/Her
Take selling Ice. We freeze a ton of it and run it to hot springs. Find an inn and set up a contract with them. If we need to use a civilian proxy. Instead of never moving forward with it because of vague fears that something bad might happen
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- The state of Paranoia
Have Mari say she has a cunning plan to get client state status with Leaf. She meets up with Jiraiya, confirms that he remembers everything too, and he allows Swamp to be a client state in exchange for Leaf getting Mari, Hazō, Noburi, and Keiko as hostages/diplomats.
Jiraiya and Naruto form the Gōketsu clan, then adopt us into it. Send the team to find Kagome and bring him back, if he is still in the forest waiting for us.
Ren will know that Yagura will find out who his replacement was sooner or later, and probably won't want to stick around long once he does. We can get her to defect along with Hana, and keep Hana faaaaaar away from Mari at all times. Adopt them into the clan, get them to immediately start training sealing alongside Hazō.
Pump out all the skywalkers Leaf can. Start pumping Hazō for WMD ideas, especially sealing ideas that would work well for Naruto. Make sure Naruto learns a suicide jutsu so his clones can just explode themselves if they get grabbed by Akatsuki.
Start negotiations with Akatsuki, hope we can convince them to try a less violent path to peace. Uplift, maybe.
I fully agree with having a contingency plan. But I don't think that anything that is a landmark of any sort is a good idea. How about instead we pick some random place that no one else knows about? Maybe the forest where we met Kagome, or the beach we hung out at once? If we all have skywalkers we should be able to avoid leaving a trail that anyone other than Zabuza himself could follow. Whether that's sufficient would depend on whether he's still alive or not though.
Also, lighting a forest on fire again should be good enough to throw any Inuzuka off our scent even if we don't have skywalkers.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Or we could just... confirm those fears rather than letting them be boogeymen?
- Location
- Galicia,Spain
Well the people in the merchant council aren't dedicated to the cause of preventing uplift, it just happens that its better for them if ninja don't start outcompeting them.
Just propose them a deal where they obiously benefit the most and I don't think they will disagree.
They won't like us selling ice because we might hurt bunisness that sell ice and mostly benefits us , so that's the kind of ninja using jutsu as an advantage in business thing they most likely don't like.
Selling or giving usefull seals to everyone however, while it makes them more dependent on us and they might not want that, will mean more profit to them.
Just propose them a deal where they obiously benefit the most and I don't think they will disagree.
They won't like us selling ice because we might hurt bunisness that sell ice and mostly benefits us , so that's the kind of ninja using jutsu as an advantage in business thing they most likely don't like.
Selling or giving usefull seals to everyone however, while it makes them more dependent on us and they might not want that, will mean more profit to them.
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- Location
- Italy
This, also, it would be better to not sell anything to Hot Springs, as it is under Mist control, sending someone from Goketsu(The clan that everyone suspects invented Skywalkers) there it's not the best way to sell Ice in my opinion, an inn in allied territory would be better.
Also, we have at least a month, there are more pressing things at the moment.
1)Stop Mari from snap/Commit suicide
2)Take the Snake Scroll
3)Talk to Ami(Because it's interesting)
4)Talk to Minori, the traumatized Jonin very susceptible to kinds words and possibly to uplift (Possibly before Ami gets to her)
5)Talk to the Clan Heirs, use the goodwill we have with Neji, improve relationship with Naruto
6)Hokage Election.
7)Find the Rinnengans
8)Find out everything we can about the Akatsuki
I'm not going to say that we should ignore the economic part, but we can delay it a day or two to obtain a Jonin-Level ally(And Current war hero) and maintain good relationship with Clan Heirs/Current clan Heads(Also, Making Neji our ally would make wonders, considering he's a genius that will wield a ridiculous power in the Hyuga clan)...Also Ami.
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- Galicia,Spain
They would probably be suspicious about our motives and maybe try to stop us.
Unless we frame it as a diplomatic move of us trying to get their goodwill for future projects or something.
I mean we would be doing for uplift, but that is probably not going to sound credible and non crazy.
Well or maybe hazou could go all impassioned speech whith them I guess that's also an option.
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- The state of Paranoia
I think it's been fairly heavily implied that merchant councils are really good compared to the most common alternative. I think that at least at first we should try and find ways to work around the MC. Which would definitely include learning more about what they are and are not okay with.
Could we set up a meeting with a merchant council member? It would allow us to directly ask what is and is not okay, and would let us feel out that particular member for ways we could benefit each other. For example, meet up with an ice merchant member, and work together to find a way for us to supply him/her with a ton of cheap ice without running into any MC regulations.
We probably shouldn't be having any member of Gōketsu leave the village if possible, now that Keiko mentioned we'd be priority targets. Remember what happened to Naruto? Think of something like that, but unintentionally.
Instead, I think we should buy a few C rank missions and let some clanless ninja do it for us.
Hmmm, maybe we should just pick the largest village in Fire that doesn't have a merchant council, and test prototype Uplift stuff there? We can build that place into a sizable city if we do things right, and it would be a city with no merchant council. There's no need to tear down preexisting merchant councils.
That definitely sounds like a good idea. I would be very interested in a plan that talks to her and tries to get her on our side (and away from the possibility of Ami influence).
- Location
- Yes.
MC would point out, rightly, that it would only last until such businesses go out of business, which will be soon given that they're being outcompeted. Alternatively, if they patch that hole by giving away the money even after the business goes under, the businesses would just up and sell their business and collect free money, while still others would make businesses and claim they're being outcompeted for more free money; this'll go on until there are so many 'businesses' that the compensation either drowns us in debt or gives effectively $0 compensation.