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They're all me. *giggles maniacally*
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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- NY
Clan Status as of Keiko's Marriage
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
PSA:
Clan finances
Note: $1 = 10 ryō, but the following numbers are all given in dollars for simplicity:
You have $1,000,000 in the clan reserves, plus the $40,000 you earned while gambling in Mist during the Chūnin Exams. Your monthly expenses are TBD. You will receive one more payment of Pangolin blood money in the amount of $520,000.
Most of the clan's money is physical coins in the clan vault under the house, with a small amount being in the form of open accounts with various businesses (grocery stores, etc) around town, just to simplify shopping.
Keiko's departure
Now that she is married into the Nara clan, Keiko is no longer primarily a Gōketsu in the eyes of Leaf's laws. She will not be living at the compound, although she is likely to come back to visit at least sometimes -- how soon and how often will depend on upcoming events re: the family's reaction to the cessation of the Pangolin deal.
Regardless of what happens, she will not be able to function as Clan Treasurer anymore. When you ask around you will find that Akane and Noburi know absolutely zero about accounting and are terrified of even trying. Mari has enough experience to read a ledger as part of her infiltration training, but definitely not enough to do the job of actually managing accounts. Kagome has no experience at it but is fascinated by the idea and was poring over the books and scratching his head within an hour of Keiko leaving the house. He's going to ask her to give him some lessons as soon as time can be made; he's not averse to the idea of trying the job but he's nervous about whether he can actually do it. You do not know of any civilian accountants, although you could look if you wanted to.
Things that happened offscreen on Sunday and Monday (the wedding was Tuesday)
Noburi found the rules for adoption into a clan. It's pretty straightforward; you just have to file a public statement with the Tower so that it can be recognized to have happened. It's less a question of approval and more a question of that being a good Schelling point for public record keeping. Based on the number of records and the dates on them it's very clear that adoption happens but it's uncommon. Reading between the lines, Noburi suspects that doing it too often will piss off the other clans. After he was done with that he talked to Akane for suggestions on talented clanless ninja who might be good candidates for adoption. He has a list of names to investigate but not nearly enough information to make a recommendation.
Keiko mostly spent her time reading the family ledgers and getting them tidied up to the point where someone who isn't Jiraiya could understand them. When she wasn't doing that or other onscreen stuff she was "training" with Tenten.
Mari was out and about. When asked what she'd been up to she was helpful, responsive, and completely uninformative.
Akane was mostly training, getting her stuff moved, and helping her parents sort out the business plan for the expansion of their family business that will be based on the promised Gōketsu investment money.
Kagome was making seals and improving the defenses when he wasn't at the library or studying the clan finances.
Clan finances
Note: $1 = 10 ryō, but the following numbers are all given in dollars for simplicity:
You have $1,000,000 in the clan reserves, plus the $40,000 you earned while gambling in Mist during the Chūnin Exams. Your monthly expenses are TBD. You will receive one more payment of Pangolin blood money in the amount of $520,000.
Most of the clan's money is physical coins in the clan vault under the house, with a small amount being in the form of open accounts with various businesses (grocery stores, etc) around town, just to simplify shopping.
Keiko's departure
Now that she is married into the Nara clan, Keiko is no longer primarily a Gōketsu in the eyes of Leaf's laws. She will not be living at the compound, although she is likely to come back to visit at least sometimes -- how soon and how often will depend on upcoming events re: the family's reaction to the cessation of the Pangolin deal.
Regardless of what happens, she will not be able to function as Clan Treasurer anymore. When you ask around you will find that Akane and Noburi know absolutely zero about accounting and are terrified of even trying. Mari has enough experience to read a ledger as part of her infiltration training, but definitely not enough to do the job of actually managing accounts. Kagome has no experience at it but is fascinated by the idea and was poring over the books and scratching his head within an hour of Keiko leaving the house. He's going to ask her to give him some lessons as soon as time can be made; he's not averse to the idea of trying the job but he's nervous about whether he can actually do it. You do not know of any civilian accountants, although you could look if you wanted to.
Things that happened offscreen on Sunday and Monday (the wedding was Tuesday)
Noburi found the rules for adoption into a clan. It's pretty straightforward; you just have to file a public statement with the Tower so that it can be recognized to have happened. It's less a question of approval and more a question of that being a good Schelling point for public record keeping. Based on the number of records and the dates on them it's very clear that adoption happens but it's uncommon. Reading between the lines, Noburi suspects that doing it too often will piss off the other clans. After he was done with that he talked to Akane for suggestions on talented clanless ninja who might be good candidates for adoption. He has a list of names to investigate but not nearly enough information to make a recommendation.
Keiko mostly spent her time reading the family ledgers and getting them tidied up to the point where someone who isn't Jiraiya could understand them. When she wasn't doing that or other onscreen stuff she was "training" with Tenten.
Mari was out and about. When asked what she'd been up to she was helpful, responsive, and completely uninformative.
Akane was mostly training, getting her stuff moved, and helping her parents sort out the business plan for the expansion of their family business that will be based on the promised Gōketsu investment money.
Kagome was making seals and improving the defenses when he wasn't at the library or studying the clan finances.
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Noumero
Omit Needless Words
Yep, okay, that needs to be dealt with immediately.
I suggest throwing that out entirely. At this time I don't know what to replace it with, but it's clear that our models of Mari were significantly off. We need to figure out what the hell she is doing and thinking, not try to offer her sympathy she doesn't seem to need.
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Hm. So we have one more shipment for Pangolin blood money (January 21) and then we're out. @eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail How much are we making off the Pangolin deal, per month? For reference, we get 60lb gold/month.
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*400,000. We literally have 2.5 months payment saved up, after that...welp.
In American dollars. Anyway, the house is currently a weight on our neck, and nobody will buy it even if we sell.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
@Velorien @OliWhail @eaglejarl
I am afraid that by requiring us to manage funds you have nulled the ancient compact that kept us from turning this into Spice and Wolf Quest. May Jashin have mercy on your spoons.
I am afraid that by requiring us to manage funds you have nulled the ancient compact that kept us from turning this into Spice and Wolf Quest. May Jashin have mercy on your spoons.
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
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- Yes.
Were I a more evil person I would ask if we-the-hivemind could function as Clan Treasurer.
Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- She/Her
... You know what Clan Gouketsu seriously needs? Civilians.
I'm not even kidding. Even the Hyuuga have a ton of civilian lackeys, and frankly that just makes us look bad. Mari is going down the right path by acquiring more trade connections with civilian merchants, but we ought to be doing more to acquire loyal people who aren't ninja.
Seriously. If anti-civilian discrimination is as strong as it looks like, there are going to be market failures happening where extremely competent civilian experts have exactly zero Clan backing. This is the same situation that created the stereotype of "black people are good at basketball" - they aren't particularly, it's just that nobody was willing to recruit black people to play basketball. When someone finally considered the option, they got an amazingly good team practically free.
I'm not even kidding. Even the Hyuuga have a ton of civilian lackeys, and frankly that just makes us look bad. Mari is going down the right path by acquiring more trade connections with civilian merchants, but we ought to be doing more to acquire loyal people who aren't ninja.
Seriously. If anti-civilian discrimination is as strong as it looks like, there are going to be market failures happening where extremely competent civilian experts have exactly zero Clan backing. This is the same situation that created the stereotype of "black people are good at basketball" - they aren't particularly, it's just that nobody was willing to recruit black people to play basketball. When someone finally considered the option, they got an amazingly good team practically free.
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I don't understand that reference, so here's what I could find:
To save effort: does this mean "Don't try to get around the antimeme. It won't work. We're not going to let you explore this." or "You can get around the antimeme, but you need to try harder and come up with something clever."?
inb4: "yes"
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And we can't have Mari do it either, since she's our main point of political power. And possibly Hokage candidate.
The other two options are to have Hazou do it (haha, kill the QM spoons by making them invent finances for us-the-hivemind to solve), or to target and adopt a clanless ninja and their family, who has experience with such matter, or hope a future Uchiha adoptee can do it. Personally I'm in favor of having Kagome do it until we can locate and adopt a suitable civilian/clanless ninja to do it for us.
Hm...I wonder how skilled Akane's parents are at this sort of thing...
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
He can make seals to sell to bolster said income.
They ran their own business , so they should be halfway decent at accounting yeah?
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VIHH: Maybeee......Are we doing Spice and Wolf quest Naruto flavor now?
QMs: *screaming in spoons*
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail On another note, does Jiraiya's notes include information at all on trustworthy civilians/ninja of Leaf?
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- USA
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- He/Him
Please note edit to infopost above. We may have made a conversion error. That means the numbers listed might be accurate or might be off by a factor of 10 in either direction. Apologies for the mistake, we're sorting it out now.
Less memey: So far as I'm aware, there is no impetus among the QMs to fiat prevent getting around the antimeme.
Obligatory: Yes.
Less memey: So far as I'm aware, there is no impetus among the QMs to fiat prevent getting around the antimeme.
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I have a friend who did econ who could help look over our plans if we decide to do this
