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The difference was that Hazou was legally judge, jury, and executioner since the child predator was a Gouketsu. And I'm also not certain Akane was happy about it, given...
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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That still falls under "not defending yourself" and I don't get the impression Akane is that concerned with the legal process tbh. I do think the distinction matters, just not to her
I saw that yeah. I feel like Hazou would've noticed personally, but maybe she does think it was wrong and just didn't have as strong a reaction at the time given the severity of his crimes
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Fair, but I do think Akane does care about the legal process given that this was her defense to Haru's "the Yakuza were bad guys". Perhaps I should have added "not lawfully sanctioned" to that part, since Haru wasn't legally allowed to kill the Yakuza, unlike Hazou's killing of Ikenaga.
Of course, it's possible Akane was feeling it for a while and it just bottled up like what happened with Keiko/Mari.
EDIT: @Paperclipped The way your plan is worded the Akane section seems to be taking place after the HOWS get planted/we talk with Asuma. Is this the case?
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@eaglejarl @Velorien , any updates on whether the Great Seal is physically damaged and chipped?
Also, she'd be right. We totally did fail to clock it as a super-serious problem.
Excellent, thanks! I would prefer to focus on the object level action right now, but recognizing the problem means recognizing the context that allowed the problem to arise. How does this update look?
I think this is fine. If that's her expectation, then we'll have failed no matter what we say at this point, and trying to make excuses ("we're tired", "the scope was too small", "there were other priorities") will probably only make things worse and dull our ability to make an apology.
Also, she'd be right. We totally did fail to clock it as a super-serious problem.
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You refer to this, correct?
I'm kinda-sorta against it, since it's phrased more as a "we should do X" when Keiko's made it clear we should be framing it as a consultation instead of a do-X thing. Maybe instead:
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To be honest, I half expect interleaving/nonlinearities given what happened in the last Great Seal chapter. That said, yes? I hope EJ does changes the scene order around if it makes sense to do so, but the goal of the plan is a hopefully interesting narrative whiplash between sealing with existential threats and resolving interpersonal conflicts.
Added.
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Personally feel the whiplash would be better if we did the Akane scene while traveling to the Great Seal, since it is multi-day and Hazou doesn't have to rest with the Arachnids and he may die so think about how Akane would feel if Hazou got himself offed when this was the last scene they talked in and aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
PSA: A clarification on the state of civilian rights in Leaf
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PSA: A clarification on the state of civilian rights in Leaf
It's come to our attention that there's been some unclear/contradictory information about civilian rights in Leaf. Please consider this an authoritative statement. If anything in past updates contradicts it, please assume that the characters misunderstood or miscommunicated the facts, or that the grue missed a spot.
Although there are technically laws protecting civilian lives on the books, actual protection for civilians comes from the existence of the Merchant Council, the body which regulates civilian trade and resource production in the Fire Country.
The MC is able to call an embargo which stops civilians from producing resources for, or providing services to, ninja. This would be a disaster for all ninja, since they do not do their own farming or crafting. However, it would also be a disaster for civilians, since many (if not all) ninja would resort to violence in order to obtain the resources they need. In addition, it would leave the village vulnerable to its enemies, meaning the Hokage would have to take extreme measures. It's never happened, so nobody knows what the extreme measures are, but they could range from executing and replacing the Merchant Council to total enslavement of the civilian population so something like this doesn't happen twice.
Thus, the MC is desperate not to find itself in a situation where an embargo is necessary. However, there are two circumstances which would force its hand.
1) The Hokage passes a law that threatens the entire civilian population. Allowing ninja to compete with civilians financially would be an example of such a law.
2) Ninja start killing civilians indiscriminately, and the Hokage fails to step in and stop them.
Murdering a single civilian will almost certainly not be enough to move the MC unless it was a very important civilian, such as a member of the Merchant Council. Murdering a small number, especially of undesirables such as six yakuza, probably won't either. However, the Hokage is aware that the MC could ruin the village if driven over the edge, and will not be impressed with anyone bringing them closer to that edge without a good reason. Between this and the fact that lowering the number of civilians is generally harmful to the village, a ninja who comes to the Hokage's attention through lots of wanton murder can expect to have a bad time.
It's come to our attention that there's been some unclear/contradictory information about civilian rights in Leaf. Please consider this an authoritative statement. If anything in past updates contradicts it, please assume that the characters misunderstood or miscommunicated the facts, or that the grue missed a spot.
Although there are technically laws protecting civilian lives on the books, actual protection for civilians comes from the existence of the Merchant Council, the body which regulates civilian trade and resource production in the Fire Country.
The MC is able to call an embargo which stops civilians from producing resources for, or providing services to, ninja. This would be a disaster for all ninja, since they do not do their own farming or crafting. However, it would also be a disaster for civilians, since many (if not all) ninja would resort to violence in order to obtain the resources they need. In addition, it would leave the village vulnerable to its enemies, meaning the Hokage would have to take extreme measures. It's never happened, so nobody knows what the extreme measures are, but they could range from executing and replacing the Merchant Council to total enslavement of the civilian population so something like this doesn't happen twice.
Thus, the MC is desperate not to find itself in a situation where an embargo is necessary. However, there are two circumstances which would force its hand.
1) The Hokage passes a law that threatens the entire civilian population. Allowing ninja to compete with civilians financially would be an example of such a law.
2) Ninja start killing civilians indiscriminately, and the Hokage fails to step in and stop them.
Murdering a single civilian will almost certainly not be enough to move the MC unless it was a very important civilian, such as a member of the Merchant Council. Murdering a small number, especially of undesirables such as six yakuza, probably won't either. However, the Hokage is aware that the MC could ruin the village if driven over the edge, and will not be impressed with anyone bringing them closer to that edge without a good reason. Between this and the fact that lowering the number of civilians is generally harmful to the village, a ninja who comes to the Hokage's attention through lots of wanton murder can expect to have a bad time.
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I think this line may have been cut off?
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The seal itself was not damaged.
The Great Seal is made from a blue-gray stone that Hazō did not recognize. It was embedded in a reddish/yellow sandstone (the normal sort of rock you would see in that area) and the sandstone had been torn apart in the process of something, presumably one or more Dragons, digging out the Seal. Before the digging occurred the Seal would have matched very closely with the surface of the surrounding rock, making it hard to tell that it was actually a 3D object.
I do wonder how much ninja believe the Leaf merchant council could actually pull off an embargo. Giving the coordination problems especially when ninja try to get civilians to secretly defect. Although Leaf has never had an embargo, Sand has
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which gives some credence to Leaf's MC's capability
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@Velorien This is currently listed as a story instead of informational threadmark
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Fixed, thanks.
Added "(when she's ready)". Could I bother you for a vote now?
Excellent. If the seal is physically undamaged, when it seems moderately likely that the problem can be addressed terminally with either just a good Sealing score or with paper seals. Stone-carving is still useful for communicating to Leaf sealmasters, but it might be better to improve other scores of Hazou's and contract with an excellent mundane sculptor for that. Hopefully, this'll help determine whether or not that's a viable path.
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My plan has us gather this information.
Is it just me or are there repeated hints that fast setting concrete would solve most of our troubles?
Why would that work? Most of the issue is going to be around fine details.
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gran dutch of douchery
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Oh, good thing we are providing tools more than anything else.
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No, her SC level is too low.
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You need SC 30, so no, not yet
But it been two weeks?
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It's the level of gloss that you would see on a fluorescent light tube. (It's not an FLT, I simply can't think of a better example.) The texture is similar to obsidian -- smooth but not without bumps and imperfections.
The color is 'Bayside', shown here: Bayside / #5fc9bf Hex Color Code
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Huh, I would call that solidly turquoise, and distinctly unnatural. Well, that's noteworthy enough that it might become a lead.
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The reason I don't really like faflec's plan or introspection plans in general is that it's just dragging the conflict out more, like hazou is just going to express these opinions again to Akane. I also think they're way too heavy handed and wordy personally, but I think that's more of a taste thing.
EDIT: Also, 500/600 words causing a negative XP bonus over a several day update (getting to great seal and back) is gonna suck
EDIT: Also, 500/600 words causing a negative XP bonus over a several day update (getting to great seal and back) is gonna suck
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