- Location
- Galicia,Spain
Nah we can get his consent.
We just need to start our necromancy research.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
We just need to start our necromancy research.
I just figured my intended fix was so obvious at this point that I didn't need to say it.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
No? I'm not sure where you got that.
TIAS?
We typically don't feel super bound by canon!Naruto.
Inferno Vulpix made a very good statement about this a few days ago:
By Pangolin's Scales, do you mean the Pangolin Conditioning jutsu(PCJ) or the Ghost Scales (GS) jutsu? They both provide ablative armor, the difference being that PCJ can be kept up almost indefinitely but has a 10-minute meditation casting requirement while GS can be cast in combat and provides a Taijutsu bonus but has a short duration.
- Location
- Potato land
I'm not. In fact, convincing Tsunade to make a bid seems easier than getting Mari elected by an order of magnitude. And both of those seem harder than getting Asuma the hat.
On the other hand, the extreme stratification of ninja combat power favors strong leaders. Leaf wasn't really founded by clans coming together, it was founded by Hashirama and Madara being powerful enough to do whatever they wanted. Mist wasn't founded by clans banding together, it was founded by a pirate king by force of conquest. Wouldn't be surprised if other villages sport similar lineages. And what we see is what we should expect from that kind of founding mythos. I wouldn't be surprised if the Third actually had less practical authority over Leaf than Hashirama did in his heyday.
- Location
- USA
I don't get why we'd have increased economic output. Not being snide, I must have missed that plot thread. As far as I know we are getting a modest clan income from selling weapons to the nazi analogs on the seventh path, and we are using some of that to get genin to help out civilians a bit. Aside from the fact that the summon world has a lot of gold and slaves to dig it up, I don't see any reason our economy would be stronger than it was, say, 5 years ago.
I also don't see why we would expect to hit S-rank ever, and certainly not in short order. I'm kind of dubious that we might even hit Jonin rank, actually.
Like, the last time our whole band, together, with an NPC helping, fought a Jonin she killed our squad leader without trying hard and the rest of us only lived so she could send a snarky message to our bosses.
We trained with Gai once (who is not S-rank, just a jonin), and it was so one sided the QM's montaged it, just us getting pummeled over and over.
The only fighting technique we have that is unique is our deception based fighting style that I honestly think hasn't been used for half the thread.
I guess that's all in the past, maybe we are fiercer now, but I think it has been less than a week since Noburi fought Hinata (who is weaker than Neji, who is weaker than Hiashi, who is weaker than an S rank), and he got utterly chumped. The idea that he is going to be S-rank in the near term strikes me as just, like, I don't even understand why it would be plausible. It feels like saying Iruka is about to be a Kage.
My basic read on 'powerhouse' status is that the villages are:
Villages that still have their Jinchuuriki > Leaf (we are just like the other villages minus half our Jonin but plus more Seal Scrolls than I think anyone else has) > Mist. (no Kage, no tailed beast, no Seal Scrolls we know of, big jonin losses)
Akatsuki is the spoiler. Each of them is a big factor, and if they all work together they are kingmaker in the coming war.
Another spoiler is that our aunt has the eyes from the leader of Akatsuki. If she gets the 'raise the dead' jutsu working it would of course be checkmate for everyone else in short order, but it isn't entirely clear how feasible that is.
My hope for us becoming a powerhouse would be that Inoue is heading off to make friends with an ex-Akatsuki member, or that there are synergies from one village having a half dozen summon scrolls that weren't obvious in the past.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Nahh we are about to have a huge powerjump. The whole team will have summon contracts. Then we will raid all 3 summon clans for sure everything they know. This will include sage mode. On top of that we will be getting more xp with shadow clones. Finally we have all of Jiraiya's seals.
1) Increased economic output comes from our subsidization of farm related jobs for ninja. If we have freedom to act, we can further increase growth in our economy in other way such as patronizing craftsmen to invent machine for better harvesting or using seals to do the same. This is a slow process that could be readily be sped up through bigger subsidies.
2) The Pangolins aren't nazi analogue. They're more typical of empires throughout history. That being said, our income from Pangolin gold isn't what you could say 'modest'. It literally save our clan, allow payment on the expensive clan compound(which is not a single house), and fund missions to find Naruto. Now we can allocate "hunting for Naruto" to other aspect of the economy.
3) We can use summon world for instant logistics and diplomacy, greatly increasing trade.
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- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
'Dictator' best captures the totality of control a Kage has over the administration of the village. Especially in theory, if a Kage makes an order then that order is absolute and there is no gainsaying it unless you're tired of living.
And while it's true that Kages don't always retain such control and instead delegate aspects away, and that the Clans are themselves powerful and a check against the Kage, at the core of the concept of Kage is that They Are In Charge and all chains of authority lead irrevocably to the Kage.
When you think of a King, there are a lot of situations that come to mind. Perhaps the King rules an absolute monarchy, perhaps a constitutional monarchy. You could imagine the King being de facto subordinate to the nobility or to the church or strong enough to keep the other factions on a leash, and all-in-all the descriptor 'King' doesn't actually tell you all that much about their level of control. 'Dictator', though, gives a clear impression of the one guy who holds total authority over their domain with the ability to make any command they so choose and expect it to be fulfilled.
- Location
- United States
Yeah, if you're a ninja and you don't like your Kage (or even worse your Kage doesn't like you) you're basically fucked.
Can't leave because you'll be marked a missing nin and killed.
Can't kill the Kage because they are almost always going to be stronger/more connected than you.
Can't try to hinder them politically because they can send you on suicide missions if need be.
The only real avenue of escape is to go rouge and live like a hermit hoping you weren't important enough to warrant sufficient interest in killing you (this is what I presume Kagome did).
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
All monarchs are dictators, vive la revolution
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
I think we'll be fine, though it'll take another 6ish years and some elbow grease on our part.
Treasonous thoughts citizen, please report to T&I for your regularly scheduled checkup...
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
The magic of summoning is that it allows instant transportation of goods from one clan to another, and from there, to the real world, via the summoner and the magic of storage seals. If we happen to make nice with a summoner in Mist, for instance, we could massively expedite trade between the nations of Mist and Leaf to the Goketsu's (and the Mist summoner's) enrichment. Furthermore, we can massively improve logistics of trade between the summon clans we have in our possession: Toad and Pangolin currently, possibly Snake in the future.
About that...
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
PSA: Have added a second round of questions to this post.
- Location
- Yes.
Welp, wish we'd told Naruto, now he's going to think we're complete dumbasses for not telling him or not knowing our clan matriarch was campaigning to become Rokudaime Hokage.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Hopefully shes campaigning with the Neutrals, in which case we can probably split some votes.
Though, if she has enough votes we could swing some deals on our side of the fence...
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
The magic of summoning is that it allows instant transportation of goods from one clan to another, and from there, to the real world, via the summoner and the magic of storage seals. If we happen to make nice with a summoner in Mist, for instance, we could massively expedite trade between the nations of Mist and Leaf to the Goketsu's (and the Mist summoner's) enrichment. Furthermore, we can massively improve logistics of trade between the summon clans we have in our possession: Toad and Pangolin currently, possibly Snake in the future.
About that...
Oh this reminds about that one merchant we strongarmed into dealing with us back in Leaf. I don't think anyone's brought that up in a while.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Is that just clan adoption? Babies get adopted all the time.
Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Oh my god, we told Mari to do what was necessary to preserve the clan and she went off and started campaigning for Rokudaime Hokage.
... Mari is a seduction and assassination specialist.
Mari is a seduction and assassination specialist.
And we just took the gloves off her and pointed her at our own village.
*SCREAMING IN KAGOME*
... Mari is a seduction and assassination specialist.
Mari is a seduction and assassination specialist.
And we just took the gloves off her and pointed her at our own village.
*SCREAMING IN KAGOME*
- Location
- Yes.
IIRC, she specializes in infiltration, not assassination.
I was thinking of the second. But both of them works too, if there's time to preemptively summon a bunch of clones and have them meditate. The malus to athletics and (something I forgot) could be a problem, though. Maybe it's worth for having clones that take three hits to disappear.
Speaking of the Conditioning Jutsu, couldn't it help Naruto regain his lost muscle mass? We should probably bring that up sometime.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
I see no problem with this.
Mari obtaining 4ish votes from the Neutralish block allows us some serious leverage over Team ISC + Asuma. We can likely sweeten the deal for ourselves by getting Mari to support Asuma and then throwing our bloc's votes his way as well.
Mari obtaining 4ish votes from the Neutralish block allows us some serious leverage over Team ISC + Asuma. We can likely sweeten the deal for ourselves by getting Mari to support Asuma and then throwing our bloc's votes his way as well.
Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- She/Her
The fundamental problem I have right now is that the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing. Mari isn't coordinating with us, and as such we have a very real risk of fucking things up for her or her fucking things up for us.
... unless... she might be going out of her way to give us plausible deniability, in which case she's probably doing something fucking shady even by ninja standards.
- Location
- Yes.
Eh, she's probably remembering all of Hazou's OPSEC fuckups and responding accordingly. Probably already told Keiko and Noburi, and told them to keep Hazou out of trouble.
Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I would prefer for Hazou to at least know that "Mari is handling things, at a level above your current clearance."