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@MMKII Maybe add it to the questions pile?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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If it is true, however, we end up taking -10 points at best, but more likely -100 points when all 9 of our red team flee to the 4 winds.
On the other hand, Mist could double stack spared teams with teams they want to push through, due to relative scoring.
We have to plan taking this into account. To do otherwise invites misery.
To come out gracefully in round 2, it suffices to destroy all other blue team documents (denying positive red, who were best off coming out of round 2) and ensuring minimal gains for other blues. -75 at best for red (least injured) and -40 at best for blue (9 prisoners), for a worst case 60 point gain.
My thoughts on scoring:
Ideally, we flawlessly execute in round 1, and convince the relatively solid performing blue teams that it is to their advantage to immediately withdraw as red to avoid massive penalties. Mixture of it being true, and our intimidation should work for many.
Emstar
The Shining One
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Alternatively we convince a Red team in Round 2 to rampage somehow, or Blue Teams to self sabotage somehow.
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Hm.
I'm going to assume our enemies have 600 points because I'm lazy. Keiko/Noburi have 141 points; Hazou has 142.
For our Red Team: +185
- +75 points for turning in documents.
- +5*22 points for time.
- +75 points for turning in documents.
- -25*9 points for whole team getting Moderate Consequences.
- -30*9 points for whole team being in a cell. Also -75 since you can't get positive points if in a cell.
- -75 points for losing the documents.
- -25*9 points for whole team getting Moderate Consequences.
So by the end of the round Team Gōketsu should have 326-327 points. Other Red Teams should have at best 105 points. Other Blue Teams should have at best 300 points.
At the start of the next round I will assume Mist will try to fuck us as much as possible: that means filling our team with Moderately-injured contestants and giving our former teammates to other high-scoring individuals. Assuming we can't manipulate the scoring beyond our group, the worst possible outcome is that our Red Team counterparts fuck off and nobody touches us and/or gives us a way to influence anything. Thus:
For our Blue Team: -100
- +50 points for keeping documents secure.
- -25*6 points for Moderate Consequences.
Edit: Now if we are allowed to smash things...well, we just win. Period.
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One thing to point out is that we're not the only teams who could pursue a rampage strategy - Downfall or any other Mist teams with a Wakahisa could do it, and Team Mugiwara might be able to do it depending on if their own chakra vampire bloodline can redistribute chakra. (though we're the only ones who should have summons available, so it's lower risk for us)
People inside the bases getting severely injured or killed would be bad. We need more careful destruction.
People inside the bases getting severely injured or killed would be bad. We need more careful destruction.
Cariyaga
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That is why I specified if we're taken away from the group first as we were last time. We can guarantee they aren't there, in that case. Either way, send Panashe along too to be sure of that.
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I don't think we'd get negative points for consequences inflicted the previous round.
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Can we level the bases after we take out the Blue Teams? Like, drag them all out of the building and then reduce it to rubble to give the Mist proctors more work to do rebuilding them.
Cariyaga
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Just avoid leveling them at all so we can be sure they'll have the same layout and location.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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Well then, in that case...the worst-case scenario is that all the Red Teams wreck face in the new round, while our counterpart Reds fucked off.
For our Blue Team: +50
- +50 points for turning in documents.
- -75 points for losing the documents.
- -25*9 points for whole team getting Moderate Consequences.
- +75 points for turning in documents.
- +5*22 points for time.
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Likely -100 to us, but don't forget, in this scenario, -225 to everyone else to start. Then, at best, -40 to perfect red teams, or -85 to perfect blue teams.
We'd still have a 425 advantage over all R1 Blue teams
And R1 Red teams are at 665 advantage.
This is feasible, though it might ruffle Leaf feathers. Although, at least we can then say we weren't unfair in our rampage.
The other consideration would be if injury penalties don't persist, in which case R2 we get +50, and perfect Red get 185, while perfect blue get 140
Thus, R1 Blue would be at 350 pt advantage, and R1 Red at 590 advantage.
R1 catapults our allies into the same position we are in, or better. Would 350 be enough to secure against the other teams? I think it would barely scratch us into the finals.
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I'd forgotten about that, yeah. It actually means we'd have enough points: Reds would have (at best) 260 points and Blues would have (at best) 20 points.
Edit: Although...if all the other Blues win...
Ugh.
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Cariyaga
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Look, just send Pandaamonium/Panashe out to fuck up the other blue team bases at the start before they have the chance to move their lockboxes, 5SB all our shit up so they can't break in, and then just chill inside our own base. We be gucci.
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FMPOV we should be focusing on the Red Teams in the second round of this Event. Assuming we perfect-rampage this Round, all the current Blue Teams are gonna be down 300 points while the current Red Teams are gonna be down 495 points. I don't think it's even possible for one of the current Reds to make a comeback from that. Thus our focus should be on the current Blue Teams, i.e. the R2 Red Teams.
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On the other hand, assuming the other way (with a precursory understanding of new damage/battle mechanics) means you can't take any more injury points, otherwise you have a moderate injury + serious injury, which everyone will avoid.
Edit: Unconsciousness, notwithstanding, I suppose
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Noumero
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I'm going to assume this clever thing won't work, as well as the thing about turning in other documents.
Our total score, assuming perfect R1 and conservative R2 performances:
141 + 185 + 50 = 376.
The score of The Top Team, who started off as Blue:
600 - 225 + 185 = 560.
Relative points disadvantage: 184 points.
Hm. It assumes we can't do anything clever or advantageous with the word-halves. It also only has us fail if there's many 600-points-scoring individuals who were chosen as Blue in the first round and who will manage to get full 185 points in the second round. I think it's passable.
But maybe not. @Roomba, how do you feel about trying to intimidate weak-willed Teams into outright quitting the Exams this round?
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Of course, if we manage to obtain/destroy all other blue documents in Round two, we win. That loses them 185 point of their perfect score, putting us on even footing.
