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[x] Plan Literally Anything Except for Vecht's Plan
-[x] Take a wait and see approach to the next exam.
--[x]By that, I mean we still gather what information we can without breaking the rules or OPSEC. Try our best to include STL.

It's okay, I get you. Here you go:


[X] Literally Not The Plan Referenced By The Plan Above
  • Inform STL that, unless otherwise barred from doing so by the event rules, we intend use up to the entirety of the lethality of our sealing arsenal to ensure the complete and utter annihilation of anyone who stands in our way of the goal. Inform them that usage of such will be loudly announced ahead of time, and that every opportunity will be given to clear out of the way. Further, we intend to make it known to everyone that this is our strategy.
  • Sleep in shifts, maintain security, get to the event on time
  • Leave Noburi or Keiko to answer questions on the above
  • Whistle idly to ourselves
 
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How about planting some large explosives underground, pretending to do some hand signs and shout: "Earth Style: Land to Liquid Technique!" and then detonating the explosives so that the ground behaves similarly to underground nuclear tests?

We can check to see if anyone else is underground before we do so and the effects on people standing on the surface should be negligible for ninjas who can simply jump high enough to escape damage. Nothing gives credence to intimidation attempts like large explosives in the background (or in this case, underground).

I believe Dictator4Hire was referring to during the event.

It all depends on the specific rules for this event. If they plan on rebuilding structures multiple times I would assume that explosives of some kind are being permitted.

If the rules say that only small scale explosives are allowed we can just use our arsenal and claim that this is our smaller stuff. If they call us out on it we can throw @Radvic at them.

Look guys! Our explosives + deception build could finally pay off!
 
If the rules say that only small scale explosives are allowed we can just use our arsenal and claim that this is our smaller stuff. If they call us out on it we can throw @Radvic at them

This, but unironically.

"We regret to inform you that Radvic has taken complete control of Hazou for a week. Also, this can be reversed by giving Hazou his chuunin vest."
 
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If we want to do anything at all, it should be preparing the field to our advantage. What can we do to make this easier on ourselves?

Another thing I'm wondering is what the incentives for team members are going to be? Clearly, this is meant to be a leadership test, but if team members don't have any reason to play along, it'll become an even bigger mess than the previous event.
 
If we want to do anything at all, it should be preparing the field to our advantage. What can we do to make this easier on ourselves?

Another thing I'm wondering is what the incentives for team members are going to be? Clearly, this is meant to be a leadership test, but if team members don't have any reason to play along, it'll become an even bigger mess than the previous event.
Easy; use enough explosives to turn the whole event field into a Swamp of Death.

I'm sure this will have no consequences whatsoever :V
 
I just had an idea, and I can't sleep anyway.

Tsunamis in a Bottle | Poseidonov's cocktails:

Fill a bottle with as many storage tags as will fit. Slap an explosive seal to the outside. Activate seal and throw for all your worth. The enemy now has a swimming pool coming at their faces at ~50-70 MPH. Should bullrush enemies and level buildings.

EDIT: This could also work with air, if you wanted to bullrush the enemy with snapping their spine or drowning the neighborhood. But we want to drown the neighborhood, because then Noburi can drain them.
 
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C'mon guys, this isn't even a committal vote! If on the off chance the plan has some minor, almost inconseqential flaw that makes it slightly less optimal than what we eventually go with, we have the perfect excuse to back down.

There are no downsides.
 
Omake: What Should Have Been
Chapter 193.15: Some Things You Just Gotta' Do Yourself [UNOFFICIAL]


Hazō wanted to argue, but there was a finality to her expression that rebuffed any words before he could find them.

He left.

He felt time moving slowly; his foot touching the floor, his step out the room; his hand touched the solid mahogany door, gently pushing it closed; his mind racing with no content in particular, and sudden clarity.

On a dime he dug his heel in, swivelled on the spot, swung open the door, and marched his way back. He held his arms forward, sat himself next to Akane, and threw a hug over her, and she reciprocated with moderated strength but unmoderated warmth.

They embraced each other in this silent acknowledging bliss through weeks, years, lifetimes, through the medium of embrace sharing their strength, support, and memories until, perhaps a dozen eternal seconds later, Akane let go.

He smiled weakly, and took her hands into his own. "Thank you for sharing," he said gently.

"Thank you for the hug," she smiled back. "Now shoo."
 
This, but unironically.

"Give us a chuunin vest or we give Radvic full control of Hazou for a week."

E: Sorry, this won't work. I made a mistake in assuming there'd still be time afterwards.

Oy, who says that was intended to be ironic? :p

We should definitely ask Jiraiya how large of an explosive we can make here so he doesn't kill us though. I am curious, given our current load out and prep time, how powerful we could make such a seal/device.
 
...Say, if we came up with some sort of massive gamechanger type seal -- like, say, high-velocity macerators, whipguns, whatever -- could we use those, under the "clan secrets" domain to force Jiraiya to keep the hat.

"Oh, but Hiashi, I couldn't trust anyone outside of my clan to administer these secret techniques. If you became hokage, I'd have to withdraw them back into clan use only."
 
...Say, if we came up with some sort of massive gamechanger type seal -- like, say, high-velocity macerators, whipguns, whatever -- could we use those, under the "clan secrets" domain to force Jiraiya to keep the hat.

"Oh, but Hiashi, I couldn't trust anyone outside of my clan to administer these secret techniques. If you became hokage, I'd have to withdraw them back into clan use only."

If I was Hiashi in that scenario, I'd simply have Hazou thrown into a sealing tech start-up forever. It would keep the golden goose in a safe, secure space where said goose can't cause a ruckus letting Hiashi move more freely in the political game. Jiraiya's genius heir gets effectively locked up and Leaf continues to get game changing seals? Sign me-as-Hiashi up.
 
Maaaan. There was all this talk of building things, and attacking and defending. Possible interrogation. I was hopeful... I'd almost convinced myself... that this task was going to be having our genin team defend a group of people building a bridge. Possibly from a jonin. Possibly from Zombuza. I'm very sad.
 
Question: As a 14-year-old who is self-avowedly terrible at the dating thing, does Hazō in fact realise he's been dumped (as opposed to merely having a big fight without the fighting)?
 
Question: As a 14-year-old who is self-avowedly terrible at the dating thing, does Hazō in fact realise he's been dumped (as opposed to merely having a big fight without the fighting)?

Insofar as we-the-players are Hazou, or at least his data analysis, processing and planning functions, I think that if WE think he has been dumped, then HE thinks he has been dumped.

I think he has been dumped.
 
Question: As a 14-year-old who is self-avowedly terrible at the dating thing, does Hazō in fact realise he's been dumped (as opposed to merely having a big fight without the fighting)?

I think that was sufficiently obvious to a 14 year old even to figure it out.


@Vecht I am on board with any or all explosions based plans, but only if they are named "The Kagome-er Maneuver" and referenced as such in universe.
 
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I'm pretty sure someone WILL die, the voters will throw a fit, and there will be retcons.
For clarity, the plan this is referencing is "Loudly announce that we will use lethal force and to stay out of our way. Actually use lethal force."

I guarantee you that if you use that plan and kill someone, we will not save you by retcon simply because you chose this plan.

If the QMs somehow made a "(X) has been shown not to work like that" type of mistake then okay, there will be a retcon, but not just because you made an unwise choice and caused catastrophic consequences for yourself and your clan.

Also, it's worth noting: your phrasing suggests that perhaps you believe we retcon things simply because players complain. That is not an idea you should depend on, because we don't do that. On the occasions where we have retconned something it's been because we were convinced that we had made a significant and unreasonable mistake in simulation. As an example, compare the outcry after Kagome murdered Minami with the outcry after the Sunset Racer; in the former case we were convinced that Kagome could not have kept the secret of his intent, so there was a retcon. In the latter case we did not feel that we had made a mistake, so you were stuck with it.

If you threaten a plan that is, speaking honestly, unwise, and suffer consequences for it, that's on you. Especially after you've received this warning.
 
Considering all the rational problems associated with picking Naruto as a setting, why'd people settle on it, out of curiosity?
Apart from the natural desire to fix something you love but hate to see broken, ninja battle wizards are just cool. There are so many stories you can tell in such a vivid, engaging setting if you can just do so without having to repress half of it.

It would be an amazing 14-year-old who could write something like MfD, especially since it's been running for over two years now. No, I meant Hazō.

That said, I've only been dumped once myself, and that was nothing like this, so I cannot claim to be writing from experience.
 
No, we can definitely do that. We just can't kill anyone. And we won't.

Keep in mind all of the idiots who have no instincts for preservation should have been eliminated long before now.

While I like your idea in theory - some concerns about revealing all our trump cards before the tournament and there being possible saboteurs in our team aside - I would like to remind you that we underestimated the stupidity of the other examinees before during the retconned stampede. And relying on them being eliminated last event is not fool proof either because they were eliminated for other criteria.

That and the fact that there might be one or two zealots in the batch who would willingly* die to DQ all of Leaf is a possibility. Same with sabotage from within. At best we will get incompetent teammates, at worst people who actually dislike us and would love to see us fail.

*or unwillingly if there are similar bloodlines like Ino's. Because if she were in our team you can bet there would be plans to make her walk a mind controlled dude into a lethal trap of another Village's ninjas to DQ them.

EDIT: To expand this, I am reasonably certain that Shikamaru has thought of this possibility as well and I would really like to know why he didn't do it. Maybe he isn't ruthless enough or thinks there are too many risks if caught? I would have assumed the latter if it wasn't for the retconned chapter where it looked like Shika isn't as unflappable as he like us to believe, indicating that he does not have as much experience with actual "real world" consequences of being responsible for a death.
 
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