Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
No, that's the point. Using storage seals as a medium bypasses chakra diffusion problems.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
From what I can gleam from this*, storage seals don't work by linking to a place that is 'far away', but rather by making a 'nearby' space to put things. The only way, with 'nearby' spaces, to link two storage seals would be to have a chakra pathway connecting them, which is impossible in practice. What you describe, keying one storage seal to the space of another, would require a storage seal which connects to a space that is 'far away' instead of 'nearby' and would thus require a complete overhaul of how a storage seal functions.
So it's probably in the tech tree somewhere, after we research another bazillion storage seal variants, but I'm pretty sure it won't be as simple as you describe.
* I am approaching this from the assumption that it is not possible easily, because this is not a non-obvious idea and every sealmaster worth their ink will have considered the utility of such a seal at some point. If we could make them, the seals would already exist and be in widespread use, therefore it is most likely a really challenging task.
- Location
- Australia
I assume a high speed transmission line could be made by stringing Chakra wire from city to city, then pulsing data back and forth. The obvious drawback being the expense of the chakra wire, and needing ninja communications specialists at each end.
That said its probably cheaper then trying to build a 12th century copper cabling system and telegram equipment.
That said its probably cheaper then trying to build a 12th century copper cabling system and telegram equipment.
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- floating away
I mean, do we have any proof that chakra moves at a super-fast speed? Maybe it propagates at like, 45 miles per hour or something.
Trying to research novel effects of seal is much more difficult for us than exploiting breaking the laws of physics to provide an advantage.
And we don't need perfect system.
Semaphore systems are still revolutionary! They are a precursor to telegraph systems which are even more revolutionary.
And we don't need perfect system.
Semaphore systems are still revolutionary! They are a precursor to telegraph systems which are even more revolutionary.
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
It's less 'modern pointers' and more 'can't we just have two storage seals go to the same space?' Both concepts pretty much lead to the same thing, a sealmaster trying to figure out how to make storage seals that connect to another one's storage.
This chakra wire would also be strung through miles and miles of land full of chakra beasts, so odds are the wire would frequently be broken unless more cautious and costly precautions were taken. Not impossible, but a bigger engineering challenge and a larger set-up cost than just running miles of chakra wire. So if the EN ever reaches peace and can spend time and effort developing infrastructure and all that fun stuff, it is probably the best way to go about this.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
It is also possible that I am extending my concept of where the idea came from to indicate that characters in MfD couldn't, so I'll give you that.
Hopefully Jiraiya hasn't done research on them himself; that'd make storage seals that point to the same spot almost impossible within the next ten years in game.
Hopefully Jiraiya hasn't done research on them himself; that'd make storage seals that point to the same spot almost impossible within the next ten years in game.
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- Australia
Fast enough that puppets controlled by it can have post-jounin ninja reflexes?
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- floating away
Tailed beast seals look a bit like top-tier storage seals to me, to be honest...
Fair- That's evidence in favor of it propagating quickly. Not conclusive though, since the puppets could have rudimentary intelligence (Like Edo-Tensei Zombies or elemental clones).
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- Australia
It is worth noting the wire itself is described as being 'impossible to break through strength' but weak to slashing.
We could just organise to dig a trench next to the road to keep the cable safe from random wildlife, or just tunnels in general.
Dissonance
Luna's Luna
- Location
- Ginnungagap.
- Pronouns
- S/H/T
~It's a Never-Ending Stooooryyy!~
Why not just wire it on top of the to-be-existing skytower infrastructure?
Also, mass scale chakra wire production required industrial scale mining, smelting, and production of steel.
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- ...Nice try.
- Very active player who has been doing a lot of the planning is mysteriously barred from the quest.
- Sealing failure occurs.
Misdirection!
What if Eaglejarl's star gives him the power to ban people from threads he's created? Lampshading!
Only the perennial question remains: would they do that to us?
(For clarity: I'm joking.
Previously, my activity here was proportional to how poorly I'd slept, since participation would something I could do on a sleep deficit while I waited until I could try to get enough sleep the next night, since my brain doesn't do naps. Recently, I figured out what was keeping me up at night: my habit of eating a bunch of food right before bed in my desperate struggle to eat enough calories to put on enough muscle to look like Batista. I've been sleep-replete for whole weeks on end, meaning I no longer have the time to make meaningful contributions.)
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- floating away
It wouldn't be so game breaking, so that immediately makes its feasibility more reasonable more possible. Plus, I can't imagine it'd be used that often. Who would regularly use a storage seal that causes a sealing failure if your fingers are too close? (Because it tries to store the tips of your chakra dense fingers)
I'd imagine it'd be closer to "Stupid, dangerous, and difficult" than "Incoherent, Suicidal, and Impossible".
Clearly their plan is to subsume every productive member of the hivemind until finally Hazou dies. They're too invested in the integrity of the quest to cheat in order to kill Hazou, but nothing stops them from getting rid of us.
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- Location
- London
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
Well, HJPEV solved a variant of that problem in HPMOR. Hopefully solving it here will not require Hazou to derive QFT, but if it does, we should really get started on a tech tree for it.
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- Australia
Its been mentioned numerous times. Search for 'Partial Storage' seal/beam
I think i raised it again a few days ago. The last update we had was it was being kicked around in QM chat.
Its worth noting we could bypass the req completely if we just incorporate some cutting seals. If we cant take a partial 1m3 cube in front of the seal, slice and dice in front of the seal then trigger the normal storage seal beam.
That said this is more a discussion for post-exams.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
It wouldn't, actually, unless something else was changed in the process of creating the seal. Storage seals just don't function when the object they're storing is a high-chakra-object.
This could cause problems with lack of seal functionality if the area is too big: if worms, etc. are high chakra objects.
That strikes me as kind of dangerous.
e: Also, there's not much else we can talk about that's productive right now. At least without triggering my paranoia. It's quiet without faflec around, so I might start screaming sporadically if I'm not distracted sufficiently.
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- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
Ok y'all, we have a sad announcement to make.
Two changes to the Pangolin clan jutsu:
1. Pantokrator's Communion is getting nixed.
Allowing it was a misunderstanding between the QMs regarding whether it was a jutsu that could be taught, or an innate one that couldn't. We'll be going through and fixing scenes where it was involved over the course of the week. We are working on coming up with a technique to replace it with in apology - something useful and likely nonelemental - and are open to suggestions. We would also be okay with giving the party one of the other approved jutsu. This will likely be put to a vote after the next chapter.
2. The armor techniques (Ghost Scales and Earth Armor) no longer stack.
They will continue to stack with the Conditioning jutsu. The sheer amount of tankiness applied by three layers of defense would have made things frankly absurd. You guys will still be some of the best-protected nin around short of genuine bullshit like immortality or spacetime bullshit.
Two changes to the Pangolin clan jutsu:
1. Pantokrator's Communion is getting nixed.
Allowing it was a misunderstanding between the QMs regarding whether it was a jutsu that could be taught, or an innate one that couldn't. We'll be going through and fixing scenes where it was involved over the course of the week. We are working on coming up with a technique to replace it with in apology - something useful and likely nonelemental - and are open to suggestions. We would also be okay with giving the party one of the other approved jutsu. This will likely be put to a vote after the next chapter.
2. The armor techniques (Ghost Scales and Earth Armor) no longer stack.
They will continue to stack with the Conditioning jutsu. The sheer amount of tankiness applied by three layers of defense would have made things frankly absurd. You guys will still be some of the best-protected nin around short of genuine bullshit like immortality or spacetime bullshit.
Dissonance
Luna's Luna
- Location
- Ginnungagap.
- Pronouns
- S/H/T
Understandable, have a nice day.
- Location
- Europe
Can we still activate both jutsu and get the +3 Taijutsu?
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
They cannot both be active at once, no.