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- Yes.
But Mari-sensei likes swords
Anyway, I feel that chains or ninja wire aren't her thing (she's infiltration spec with a relatively minor focus in Taijutsu as a last resort option).
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
Anyway, I feel that chains or ninja wire aren't her thing (she's infiltration spec with a relatively minor focus in Taijutsu as a last resort option).
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- Yes.
Keiko: No.
Noburi: No.
Akane: Honey, I love you and all, but no.
Kagome: I don't get it.
Jiraiya: *pffffffff* hAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHA
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- Nova Scotia
Of course they're not. Personal wagers like this are gray market though.
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- ...Nice try.
It is written: "Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but the thing dies in the process and the innards are discouraging to any but the pure scientific mind."
On the other hand, one of the recurring themes of this quest is that there's no kill like overkill.
Definition of DISCRETE
Definition of DISCREET
The following chapter and section numbers refer to Mathematics for Computer Science, a text I recently reviewed.
Chapter 3, "Logic Formulas"
Section 9.3, "Prime Mysteries"
Section 9.2 "The Greatest Common Divisor"
Chapter 5, "Induction"
Chapter 2, "The Well Ordering Principle"
Chapter 6, "State Machines"
Section 15.8 "The Pigeonhole Principle"
Chapter 22, "Recurrences"
Section 6.4, "The Stable Marriage Problem"
Section 9.1 "Divisibility"
Section 22.4, "Divide-and-Conquer Recurrences"
Section 24.4.4, "The Master Theorem" (know as "The master method" in section 4.5 in CLRS)
Section 9.3, "Prime mysteries"
Section 9.3, "Prime Mysteries"
Section 9.3, "Prime Mysteries"
Discrete structures are characterized by being noncontinuous
In case there was any ambiguity left: discrete and discreet mean different things. From the context, it is clear @MrCogmor meant "discreet" but instead used "discrete." Having published a review of a 1000-page textbook on discrete math just two days ago, I made fifteen puns that leveraged topics that were discussed in said book and were therefore fair game. I then ended by making the same suggestion but with "discrete" replaced with "continuous", in an apparently-vain attempt to unambiguously signal that the whole thing was a play on "discrete." Then, when confusion threatened but I was unsure whether you were playing along, I included, as a quote, a line from the same discrete math text that was (to my mind) obviously a reference to something that returns Mathematics for Computer Science upon either being Googled or DuckDuckGo'd.
But, really, it's my fault this fell flat. Is it not natural to be surprised that someone with a username bayesclef makes math puns? Don't for a second believe I don't think this thread sharp!
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
[X] Action Plan: Coming Home
Regarding the dinner with Akane's family: Jiraya still hasn't made our "real" story of how we came to be Leaf nin public. And I'm pretty sure he's not going to trust a civilian with the difference between actually true/currently "true"/soon to be "true". So our miracle may be a bit premature. Then again, the plan mentions asking Jiraya and Mari about any social moves first, does it not? So I guess if they give the go ahead then it's okay.
Lastly, can we include things in the plan which we specifically want to happen off screen?
Is this the order in which you want to research them? If yes, the plan should spell that out for the QMs.
Regarding the dinner with Akane's family: Jiraya still hasn't made our "real" story of how we came to be Leaf nin public. And I'm pretty sure he's not going to trust a civilian with the difference between actually true/currently "true"/soon to be "true". So our miracle may be a bit premature. Then again, the plan mentions asking Jiraya and Mari about any social moves first, does it not? So I guess if they give the go ahead then it's okay.
Lastly, can we include things in the plan which we specifically want to happen off screen?
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- Australia
I didn't know discreet was spelt that way or I may have gotten the joke.I had the idea discrete was used for both cases (which I probably picked up from reading fanfic). I got that you were making puns but also thought you were making a serious suggestion as well.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
So I had a crazy realization while looking through the Chapter 120s:
The Watchers might take care of Akatsuki.
Remember, the Watchers are busy looking for world ending threats. This is why they won't allow people to weaponize sealing failures, or build nukes. As I've posted a few times, Jinchuriki are in a strategic sense, WMDs. You point them at another country and watch as that country burns*.
However, the Watchers tolerate the existence of jinchuriki. This means that jinchuriki must be better for the long term survival of civilization than letting the Tailed Beasts run around. The implication of the Tailed Beasts and the Watchers both existing indicate that the Tailed Beasts predate the Watchers having enough power to kill them and that the Watchers couldn't find a more permanent solution than binding them into humans later.
So, if Akatsuki has its canon motivations, or functionally similar by collecting jinchuriki, the Watchers are going to freak. The reason is, hostile jinchuriki are near useless for any purpose at all - the most likely course of action is that anywhere they're released, they'll begin by fighting against the Akatsuki, then whatever force is there to resist. At best you'll be able to destroy one country that way, assuming you can explain to the jinchuriki that you're honestly just kidnapping them so that the jinchuriki can go attack this other hated country. Therefore, this group of paranoid S-Rankers are there to get Tailed Beasts rather than jinchuriki, and getting all of them is a hell fucking no proposition.
(Reminder: When all the nine beasts in canon came together, strip global thermonuclear war wasn't a technically incorrect term for what happened next)
Therefore the Watchers are likely to have taken out Akatsuki for gathering all the Tailed Beasts, or the Watchers have found some breakthrough that allows them to kill Tailed Beasts, and are using the Akatsuki as their proxies. Either way, not really our problem, except for getting Naruto back.
*Assuming Hashirama actually had control over nine tailed beasts, this explains why he had to hand them out in order for peace to exist; all the other countries realized not having a Tailed Beast was an existential crisis, and Leaf had all of them. Of course their only possible action is to attack.
The Watchers might take care of Akatsuki.
Remember, the Watchers are busy looking for world ending threats. This is why they won't allow people to weaponize sealing failures, or build nukes. As I've posted a few times, Jinchuriki are in a strategic sense, WMDs. You point them at another country and watch as that country burns*.
However, the Watchers tolerate the existence of jinchuriki. This means that jinchuriki must be better for the long term survival of civilization than letting the Tailed Beasts run around. The implication of the Tailed Beasts and the Watchers both existing indicate that the Tailed Beasts predate the Watchers having enough power to kill them and that the Watchers couldn't find a more permanent solution than binding them into humans later.
So, if Akatsuki has its canon motivations, or functionally similar by collecting jinchuriki, the Watchers are going to freak. The reason is, hostile jinchuriki are near useless for any purpose at all - the most likely course of action is that anywhere they're released, they'll begin by fighting against the Akatsuki, then whatever force is there to resist. At best you'll be able to destroy one country that way, assuming you can explain to the jinchuriki that you're honestly just kidnapping them so that the jinchuriki can go attack this other hated country. Therefore, this group of paranoid S-Rankers are there to get Tailed Beasts rather than jinchuriki, and getting all of them is a hell fucking no proposition.
(Reminder: When all the nine beasts in canon came together, strip global thermonuclear war wasn't a technically incorrect term for what happened next)
Therefore the Watchers are likely to have taken out Akatsuki for gathering all the Tailed Beasts, or the Watchers have found some breakthrough that allows them to kill Tailed Beasts, and are using the Akatsuki as their proxies. Either way, not really our problem, except for getting Naruto back.
*Assuming Hashirama actually had control over nine tailed beasts, this explains why he had to hand them out in order for peace to exist; all the other countries realized not having a Tailed Beast was an existential crisis, and Leaf had all of them. Of course their only possible action is to attack.
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- ...Nice try.
I'm flattered you think I could make a serious suggestion with that pun density! Alas, this is very much a case of the pun vocabulary I had available writing the content.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
Notes:
- Would you mind changing "keep a lid on your temper" to "maintain a positive attitude"? The latter seems much less likely to prime us for anger.
- If there are differences in opinion between the mother and the father, stay tactfully silent, or if one is being much more hardline than the other, ask what we can do to help.
- Kenta may already have a job that he enjoys - actually, why not ask them what their current professions are as a matter of small talk?
- If asked to describe what's been going on recently, stay well clear of traumatic events, and gently steer the conversation away from that topic if their parents seem to be getting close.
- Also, whatever we do, avoid responding to -sensei. If she does, play it off as a joke, like she's teasing us rather than being serious. Sign to her that her dad really doesn't like that.
Notes:
- Should probably use "should" here rather than "could".
- Hazou likes reading, discussing his reading (particularly with the Nara), and playing games. (note to self: invent motorcycles so that we can play card games on motorcycles)
Notes:
- Someone suggested making a crib. Kagome knows woodworking - it'd be a good exercise for him (though directional explosives would mysteriously keep appearing on the sides), and the process might be mildly therapeutic for him.
- ABSOLUTELY NO DAYS SHOPPING AT OUR EXPENSE. MARI WILL DRIVE US INCREDIBLY FAR INTO A DEBT HOLE.
- Maybe a dress with seals and a control system inlaid in the gloves?
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- Australia
Well no. They could always grovel to leaf and become client states but doing so would go against the typical ninja mindset. (High patriotism and personal pride, relatively low self-preservation instincts). They may have actually tried only for Hashirama to give the tailed beasts away because he was/is trying to make the world peaceful without him forcing it to be.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
We know of Strategic Domination, as well as Hallways and Humans, which is apparently common enough that the clan heads could play it with us.
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- Yes.
They needed to have the rules explained to them, though.
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- Australia
If they don't have an equivalent for Mafia / Town of Salem then we should invent it.
For "cornering the ice market" I'd point out that Akane is a ninja and may not be available at all times to do this - she could be gone for weeks, even months, on longer term missions. I think we could just mention to Akane in private she could make some extra money for her family by making ice using Elemental Mastery. There's no reason to bring it up during a dinner where her family is getting to know us.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
Actually, just about this in general, we have LBF and storage seals. Storing ice ahead of time is not a difficult problem, and we can always just sell ice at a steady drip rather than flooding the market.
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- The Deep Blue Sea
I'd be game for it
Hmm. We might consider just teaching everyone the justu.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
So what I was thinking for those kinds of requests was: A) stuff that other characters are up to (for instance, Noburi and Kabuto doing science together, triggering all of our paranoia horribly), and B) stuff that doesn't require major planning (like talking philosophy with Gai).
It occured to me just now that we might want a little more fine-grained control over conversations with Kenta, though.
It occured to me just now that we might want a little more fine-grained control over conversations with Kenta, though.
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- The Void
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- She/Her
We will want greater control if we are trying to get him on board with running the ice making business. But if we where just meeting him as Akane's dad it's not important
There's this thing called "delegation". We don't want to micromanage the ice-making business because that will eat up time into Hazō's research and training time.