Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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It's because the next in-story update is gonna be on Sunday. @Velorien's traveling so we have a Lore Update on Thursday.
Cariyaga
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- United States
Also we were asked to discuss long term plans which is what I'm trying to start discussion on
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Also we were asked to discuss long term plans which is what I'm trying to start discussion on
Psst, go with the plan that includes (but is not limited to):
- Marrying Ino (a smart move no matter what we end up doing, imo)
- Becoming Hokage
- Defeating Akatsuki
- Developing spaceflight and more crazy seals than you can shake a stick at
- Making habitable space stations to do our best Noah impersonation before...
- Bombarding the planet back into the Stone Age
- Declaring Pax Kurosawa/Jiraiya on the ashes of our enemies' civilizations
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- The Void
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- She/Her
Also we were asked to discuss long term plans which is what I'm trying to start discussion on
I want to establish better trade routes. Increase civilian literacy rates. Give civilians the ability to protect themselves from chakra beast. Stop scorch squads. Possibly defeat the sage/dummy
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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I'm down for everything but 1, 6, and 7.
Well, I would be down for 1 if it was Hazou's decision; I wasn't even willing to make that decision for him with regards to Akane, whom I like quite a bit more than Ino (so far). It's just weird to me.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
Psst, go with the plan that includes (but is not limited to):
We do do this for our collective enjoyment after all; might as well go all out.
- Marrying Ino (a smart move no matter what we end up doing, imo)
- Becoming Hokage
- Defeating Akatsuki
- Developing spaceflight and more crazy seals than you can shake a stick at
- Making habitable space stations to do our best Noah impersonation before...
- Bombarding the planet back into the Stone Age
- Declaring Pax Inouya
Seems reasonable, except for maybe points one and six, wastes valuable resources which as per Hazou in a different timeline is
"The gravest crime a ninja can commit - underutilization of available resources" (note may not be exact wording)
and DAMMIT INOUE HOW THE HELL DID YOU GET DICTATOR'S PASSWORD?
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- how about no
Bruh, Hazou is not a real person. Either we make the decision for whom he pursues romantically or we defer to the QMs to do so for us. However, I believe that the QMs are very reluctant to make such a decision for such a polarizing topic since they've seen the backlash they get when events in game blow up in our faces whereas this would be even more controversial.
If you can't decide on whom to choose based on their respective characters, try removing the personal element from the equation. Focus on what we the players get from each possible marriage and if that is what you want us to have in game. I personally favor maximizing Hazou's political clout and good will, but more importantly I believe Ino would also allow our team to cover some of its most glaring weaknesses: social situations and mind technique defense. I came to this conclusion by listing everything I could think of that would be pertinent to our team's position that each potential bride could offer us, based on said brides' background, personality, personal skills, and their position in Leaf's social hierarchy as well as their compatability with Hazou himself. Of the characters we know about (which we really should change since there are more clans of note in MfD than in canon) this left potentially Hinata and definitely Ino as the stand-out candidates. Hazou already has some chemistry with Ino, so to me it seems like a slam dunk. Hinata would be wonderful to have on our side as well, but we don't know what MfD!Hinata is like in person. However, if she is shy like her canon counterpart, Noburi would be a good match for her since he has the social skills necessary to reassure her whereas Hazou most certainly does not. Noburi also already has a reputation for beating up Neji and gaining Neji's begrudging respect, so that also could help him with Hinata if the bad blood between the Hyuuga cousins in canon also exists in MfD (I'm not saying we should rely on this; just that there might be an opportunity there).
Anywho, that's how I arrived at the conclusion that Ino is best political bride. Hopefully you or anyone else reading this can figure out what it is they want us and Hazou to have with him in a serious relationship. Which one is the most fulfilling for you as a player and why? There is no wrong answer (technically, since some romantic partners might be a tad bit dangerous to pursue, like HazouXKaguya; ship at own risk), but I'm still going to try to sway as many people as possible to my point of view by convincing them that my way is the best way to have the most fun. That's what it all comes down to in the end: having as much fun as possible.
Kaguya is so tempting though...
Raxner
The most dangerous man in an empty room
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- Israel
What quest is that?
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
Training techniques are always good, but Keiko's entire schtick is going to be Pangolins, so Capacity is the higher priority.
- Akane is a close combat specialist, but this might just help in general, though having a literal aura of flames does tend to cut down on visibility, but it might need reworking her combat style to make it work
- The Rocket Boots are just a good idea in general (higher TacMov can't really go wrong)
- If the med nin tentacles (or mist shudders) works out Noburi basically gets an instant living chakra battery and corpse (how does that spine seperation sound?) the moment any ninja enters his mist
- Definitely shadow clones, more instakill is better
- Keiko likely just needs more chakra and better contracts, side from that she can probably use the cool Macerators
- Definitely more techniques, possible flip over moments
- Agreed
- Way easier to do intimidation, because you get people off balance by having the environment off balance. Making social when not going for intimidation is likely much much harder
- maybe? Casino seals are pretty viable as is, and CCTV sounds orders of magnitude harder
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- Maybe
- Why not just sequence a whole bunch together, or make a seal based piano?
... Mist education hard at work people!
I'd like to add
- Test the prepped implosion seal - we've never done it before but it seems like the kind of thing that could be horrendously broken if only we tried it
Reasonable
Reasonable, though I'd probably add
- Accelerate the formation of the Shinobi Union
- Give normies better stuff (We are team UPLIFT after all)
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
You are not going to convince me to make a decision regarding Hazou's choice of partner for him. He may not be "a real person" but as we have had pointed out to us over the past few months, and recently made a decision regarding, he has his own motivations, feelings, and thoughts in the context of the story. I find it incredibly skeevy to override his preferences, as such.
That's not to say I hold it against those of you who would do as such! It simply does not fit within my preference structure.
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I am shocked, sir; shocked.
Utterly appalled.
In a word, flabbergasted.
Name me one person, just one person whom we know in character that is a better political bride for Hazou than Ino. Tell me your reasons why; I desperately need to know.
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- The Void
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- She/Her
But you do feel the need to argue against it whenever anyone mentions it
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
Anyone of political import from another nation.
Yes, it does indeed not fit within my preference structure. Thank you for noticingBut you do feel the need to argue against it whenever anyone mentions it
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- Poland
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- He/Him
Some YOUTHFUL suggestions.
Eventually we could automate the whole sealing process, assuming there's any way to infuse without human touch.
Since machine are incredibly precise, that could ensure lack of disasters. (unless there's always a danger, regardless of technique's perfection)
... We can just Henge Hazou permanently, right?
If Naruto dies, we could replace him!
Quick question: if I could just take my printer (let's assume it's a high class, well calibrated thing) into Narutoverse and used chakra ink, I could print seals, right?
Eventually we could automate the whole sealing process, assuming there's any way to infuse without human touch.
Since machine are incredibly precise, that could ensure lack of disasters. (unless there's always a danger, regardless of technique's perfection)
Hinata! Dammit Joker! You and your timing powers. And now also your disappearing act!
... We can just Henge Hazou permanently, right?
If Naruto dies, we could replace him!
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
MfD sealing is dependent on brushstrokes, which printers (or Leaf's printing press) can't replicate. Even if you made the printing press use chakra ink to create the same shape as a normal seal, infusing it would lead to disaster.
However, it shouldn't be impossible to build a new sealing style from the ground up for this. Infusing a seal takes a trivial amount of time compared to drawing one, so if we can make a seal that's compatible with printing presses, we can make absurd quantities of that seal. I'm talking giving every Leaf-nin a dozen storage scrolls a week kind of numbers here, if not more. It'd be a monumental effort, and Kagome has a very negative opinion on making up your own sealing style, but if we can pull it off then there's your next revolution in warfare (and trade!)
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- how about no
Leaf is in political turmoil at the moment since the Hokage died and Naruto got captured. As of right now we are a newly minted clan so having Hazou's hand in marriage, even if he is the adopted son of Jiraiya, doesn't mean much since we have no proven lineage. Doubly so as soon as the other villages figure out we are the Cold Stone Killers legitimized by Leaf since such a practice is taboo amongst the ninja villages.
Furthermore, a political bride from another nation is only a possibility and not a guaranteed option. Ino is available now. One bird in hand is worth two in the bush after all.
We haven't met her in character yet, so it's impossible to evaluate her as a potential bride fully. However, marrying Ino gives us mind techniques as well as a wife who has good social skills. Canon!Hinata is a wall-flower at best, whereas MfD!Ino has been confirmed to be socially savvy and insightful enough to notice Hazou while he has been in disguise in Leaf. I won't rule Hinata out, but based on what we know as of right now, I believe Ino is the superior choice.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
...meaningfully glances at Akane
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- UK
Dude, it's been basically confirmed that we can level cities with a jutsu that we were explicitly warned in character has no combat potential. Getting to S-rank isn't hard. Getting to S-rank without killing everybody or being immediately assassinated is hard.
I don't know why I expect people to listen this time, but this simply not math. Consider these two pieces of information.
- The ISS weighs ~400 tons under Earth gravity.
- The ISS is in LEO.
That's not... quite... what I was...
*sigh*
Whatever you want.
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Vecht
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Two birds in the hand are also worth more than one bird in the hand.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
Setting aside my personal issues with it for a moment, I'd kind of rather wait until Hazou was older and more mature to attempt polyamory so that Velorien wasn't made sad by it
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- Poland
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- He/Him
One last try then.
Let's get all humans in space habitats.
Then let's nuke the earth from orbit.
Boom! No more non-sentient creatures! Humans still alive!
Also no more life on the planet, but that can always be fixed.
We can also retry this process for all other realms!
No more non-sentient chakra things in Summoner Realm! Prosperity of Pangolin ensured!
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- UK
Bar a few niggles, that's actually pretty much right.
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- Australia
It is difficult but not impossible to make machines capable of brush strokes.
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- Yes.
That's actually quite useful, really. It looks like the letter blocks on the outer wheel have different heights which raise or lower the central cylinder to a certain height, which when read produces a specific letter.
We'd have to make an absolutely massive machine to mimic this, though; since I'm fairly certain even standard explosive seals have dozens of brushstrokes to make (doesn't each seal take like 5min or something?).