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- The Deep Blue Sea
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Not ninja with combined Thinker/Tinker powers. (Obligatory "FUCKING Tinkers".)
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Not ninja with combined Thinker/Tinker powers. (Obligatory "FUCKING Tinkers".)
What you've made is a lot worse than a nuke. If you want Jiraiya to be able to watch the destruction of Mist, you'll need to travel to Key to plant the bomb.
So.... beautiful....
Here's something with a scary implication for you.A black hole the size of the solar system would actually have an average density of less than water.
If you guys did die, and if we did decide to continue the quest thereafter, then I would absolutely lobby the other QMs for this.Nah, you should take the chance for a reboot so you can kill the henge.
Yes, although note that we haven't accepted the Earbusters yet.As long as we provide mechanics for how they work, and clear it with the QM in question beforehand, we're fine. I did so for Macerators and @Vecht did so for Earbusters, already.
See above. The QMs are willing to accept help with the mechanics from us.
Note that MEW segments are always rectangular prisms. No tear shapes available, I'm afraid. The name still works, though.No need for timed explosives. Seals placed on the bottom of the tears should break on impact.
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Interestingly, the density of a black hole the size of the universe would be the density of the universe.Black hole density isn't constant. It goes down as the hole gets bigger. A black hole the size of the solar system would actually have an average density of less than water.
Are you sure she would choose that?
All of it.Not until I'm done figuring out what the safe distance for white dwarf flash vaporization is.
For the love of Jashin, *please* go join Leaf! For weeks now @OliWhail has been flipping between Eeyore ("siiiighhhh...they'll never join Leaf and I'll never get to write it and the world is awful but that's fine...I'll survive....I guess") and that squirrel from Over The Hedge ("OHBOYTHEY'REGOINGTOJOINLEAFOHBOYOHBOYOHBOYIMMAGOSTARTWRITINGITNOWWWWW!!!!!")You know, OliWhail makes a valid point - we have to join Leaf just to see Jiraiya's reaction to skywalkers in story. And the Hokage's. And everyone else's.
Kagome: But...but...explosions!
Hey, as long as you get to choose which half....
Bah. Stinking ninja stinkers.Here's something with a scary implication for you.
A black hole the size of the observable universe would have the density of... the observable universe.
As you fell further in, the amount of the stuff inside black hole that you would be able to see would decrease. It would almost look as if space were expanding, at an accelerating rate, from a very bright single point long ago, and pushing the most distant objects inside the black hole over your cosmological horizon.
Pleeeeease?For the love of Jashin, *please* go join Leaf! For weeks now @OliWhail has been flipping between Eeyore ("siiiighhhh...they'll never join Leaf and I'll never get to write it and the world is awful but that's fine...I'll survive....I guess") and that squirrel from Over The Hedge ("OHBOYTHEY'REGOINGTOJOINLEAFOHBOYOHBOYOHBOYIMMAGOSTARTWRITINGITNOWWWWW!!!!!")
Give us closure, please!
For the love of Jashin, *please* go join Leaf! For weeks now @OliWhail has been flipping between Eeyore ("siiiighhhh...they'll never join Leaf and I'll never get to write it and the world is awful but that's fine...I'll survive....I guess") and that squirrel from Over The Hedge ("OHBOYTHEY'REGOINGTOJOINLEAFOHBOYOHBOYOHBOYIMMAGOSTARTWRITINGITNOWWWWW!!!!!")
Give us closure, please!
You're putting a lot on @Velorien 's plate by making him consider macerators, explosives, and gauntlet in addition to sealing research.[X] Action Plan: Will of Fire
- Set up the base to Kagome's satisfaction re: defenses, and get a research base as well. Past experience says this should take ~2-3 days.
- Build a separate entrance room for each base with space for a fire, with enough distance from the sealing facilities in Kagome's mind, for once either Hazou or Kagome research Usamatsu's Seal. This will serve to keep the facilities warm enough for comfort during long hours of research.
- While not actively building the base over that time, start integrating macerators, explosives, and gauntlets into Hazou's fighting style; while Hazou may have greater familiarity with macerators, there's no reason not to have a couple shaped charges on them as well. Mention to Keiko that she should start doing so as well; after all, with two sealmasters in the party, there's no reason her weapons should ever be sealless unless she wants them to be.
- Hazou's time once the facilities are built should be delineated as such: 4:2:1 Research:Trainingersonal time. It needn't be contiguous, but that's the approximate ratios. If Hazou (or another team member) feels he needs a break, take one outside of that schema.
AH. The paragraphs! DIE IN THE FIRE!
- Hazou's Research Priorities are as follows:
- Usamatsu's seal (Kagome has expressed interest here; only one of the two needs to research this one in the immediate sense, so if Kagome decides to do so, skip to the next one)
- Banshee Slayer (may be applied to equipment to silence it and to ears to prevent hearing damage due to…)
- Volume-Enhanced Alarm Seal (name: Earbuster or Banshee seal). We've talked about this enough for y'all to know what we want here, but: We want it to be of debilitating volume. Ideally, enough to pop unprotected eardrum (test while wearing Banshee Slayers on animals with Noburi's help, and clones in general), but even failing that, it being painful and distracting would be a boon. These should be activated similarly to explosive seals (instead of needing a separate trigger as base alarm seals do).
e: Not complete yet, but want feedback.
- Discuss with Mari how we would approach Jiraiya if we did decide to give him Skywalkers. We have some ideas for how to go about it, but we're not sure how reasonable they are. We needn't wait for them to be completed to talk about them, after all. This can, additionally, serve as political training, which Hazou sorely will need if he intends to affect the world. (Even if somehow Kagome doesn't manage it, we still have Skywaddlers. Bonus points for them being the exact same seal that Jiraiya gave us in the first place.)
- Get Keiko to send a message to Jiraiya through the Toads: We have a new innovation we want to bargain with. Ask Pandaa how best to do this and follow his guidance.
- We trust Pandaa at least. Let him know he has our full confidence.
- Do not tell Jiraiya (or anyone) what it is we are bargaining with, but let him know it is even more important than the previous innovation, and has even greater strategic implications. Tell him (and others) we want to set up a meeting with Pangolins, Toads, and himself on behalf of Leaf. We will deal with them all at once.
- Less likely to get lowballed with multiple parties competing for our goodwill.
- We can massively boost our power in the short term with access to new jutsu and training.
- We could get information about more scrolls or summoners.
- We can make our lives a hell of a lot easier by getting access to resources we currently don't have.
- We could bargain with Leaf for citizenship, or at the very least, a great deal more protection. No more running scared and being disposable assets. Upgrade to non-disposable assets? Yes please.
- Disclose the information about Skywalkers to the Pangolins only. Refuse any deals right now, stating that we will hold out until the meeting.
- However, we do ask them that we get a seasoned negotiator to argue on our behalf with the other parties. In exchange, we will cut the Pangolins a much better deal, as long as they help us get the best deal we can from Toads/Leaf.
- Again, protecting against lowballing from other parties. The Pangolins have already shown they won't give us great deals on their own, but this at least better aligns their incentives with ours
- Once we have settled in, discuss with the team what they would each like to get from a hypothetical deal involving Skywalkers, with Pangolins, Toads, Mountain, and/or Leaf. (Any of the parties we are on terms to negotiate with.)
- Basic details we'd want for citizenship
- Hana expatriated from Mist
- The safety guaranteed of probably one or two members of the other party members' family (Noburi's little sisters, Kei's sister?)
- Somewhere to live that Kagome would feel safe. Ish.
- Possibly the Uchiha estate, if we could swing that? They probably have a thing against the Hyuuga because of dojutsu-related rivalry (and Hazou in particular has reason to believe it possible he might be able to get an in with them), so…
- Alternatively, somewhere outside of Leaf proper.
- Permanent internship with Kabuto for Noburi? We don't really have a reason to keep up op-sec on bloodline secrets (though no need to be careless) once we're citizens, so…
- This is how we get to be able to implant bloodlines, people
- Mention to Noburi that no one (that Noburi's aware of) has before tested the long term effects of Wakahisa water on plants and animals (or civilians…).
- The tacit understanding that his team is of great value to Hazou (as if that wasn't made clear with his little faux pas re: Akane), so they aren't to be treated as deniable assets any more than he.
- Hazou understands that he's Leaf's golden goose, but he would like to be given more freedom of movement as he grows stronger; by the time he's of high chuunin level strength, his seals should force multiply him to be able to take on a Jounin. By the time he's a Jounin, it should take multiple of them. Therefore, he should be able to move through at least Fire as he approaches these levels.
Seems to be almost all about joining Leaf. It'd be nice if it had more stuff re: Noburi's research, any other immediate concerns we might have. Also wall of text hurt my eyes and no summary of actions.[X] Action Plan: Will of Fire
e: Not complete yet, but want feedback.
- Set up the base to Kagome's satisfaction re: defenses, and get a research base as well. Past experience says this should take ~2-3 days.
- Build a separate entrance room for each base with space for a fire, with enough distance from the sealing facilities in Kagome's mind, for once either Hazou or Kagome research Usamatsu's Seal. This will serve to keep the facilities warm enough for comfort during long hours of research.
- While not actively building the base over that time, start integrating macerators, explosives, and gauntlets into Hazou's fighting style; while Hazou may have greater familiarity with macerators, there's no reason not to have a couple shaped charges on them as well. Mention to Keiko that she should start doing so as well; after all, with two sealmasters in the party, there's no reason her weapons should ever be sealless unless she wants them to be.
- Hazou's time once the facilities are built should be delineated as such: 4:2:1 Research:Trainingersonal time. It needn't be contiguous, but that's the approximate ratios. If Hazou (or another team member) feels he needs a break, take one outside of that schema.
- Hazou's Research Priorities are as follows:
- Usamatsu's seal (Kagome has expressed interest here; only one of the two needs to research this one in the immediate sense, so if Kagome decides to do so, skip to the next one)
- Banshee Slayer (may be applied to equipment to silence it and to ears to prevent hearing damage due to…)
- Volume-Enhanced Alarm Seal (name: Earbuster or Banshee seal). We've talked about this enough for y'all to know what we want here, but: We want it to be of debilitating volume. Ideally, enough to pop unprotected eardrum (test while wearing Banshee Slayers on animals with Noburi's help, and clones in general), but even failing that, it being painful and distracting would be a boon. These should be activated similarly to explosive seals (instead of needing a separate trigger as base alarm seals do).
- Discuss with Mari how we would approach Jiraiya if we did decide to give him Skywalkers. We have some ideas for how to go about it, but we're not sure how reasonable they are. We needn't wait for them to be completed to talk about them, after all. This can, additionally, serve as political training, which Hazou sorely will need if he intends to affect the world. (Even if somehow Kagome doesn't manage it, we still have Skywaddlers. Bonus points for them being the exact same seal that Jiraiya gave us in the first place.)
- Get Keiko to send a message to Jiraiya through the Toads: We have a new innovation we want to bargain with. Ask Pandaa how best to do this and follow his guidance.
- We trust Pandaa at least. Let him know he has our full confidence.
- Do not tell Jiraiya (or anyone) what it is we are bargaining with, but let him know it is even more important than the previous innovation, and has even greater strategic implications. Tell him (and others) we want to set up a meeting with Pangolins, Toads, and himself on behalf of Leaf. We will deal with them all at once.
- Less likely to get lowballed with multiple parties competing for our goodwill.
- We can massively boost our power in the short term with access to new jutsu and training.
- We could get information about more scrolls or summoners.
- We can make our lives a hell of a lot easier by getting access to resources we currently don't have.
- We could bargain with Leaf for citizenship, or at the very least, a great deal more protection. No more running scared and being disposable assets. Upgrade to non-disposable assets? Yes please.
- Disclose the information about Skywalkers to the Pangolins only. Refuse any deals right now, stating that we will hold out until the meeting.
- However, we do ask them that we get a seasoned negotiator to argue on our behalf with the other parties. In exchange, we will cut the Pangolins a much better deal, as long as they help us get the best deal we can from Toads/Leaf.
- Again, protecting against lowballing from other parties. The Pangolins have already shown they won't give us great deals on their own, but this at least better aligns their incentives with ours
- Once we have settled in, discuss with the team what they would each like to get from a hypothetical deal involving Skywalkers, with Pangolins, Toads, Mountain, and/or Leaf. (Any of the parties we are on terms to negotiate with.)
- Basic details we'd want for citizenship
- Hana expatriated from Mist
- The safety guaranteed of probably one or two members of the other party members' family (Noburi's little sisters, Kei's sister?)
- Somewhere to live that Kagome would feel safe. Ish.
- Possibly the Uchiha estate, if we could swing that? They probably have a thing against the Hyuuga because of dojutsu-related rivalry (and Hazou in particular has reason to believe it possible he might be able to get an in with them), so…
- Alternatively, somewhere outside of Leaf proper.
- Permanent internship with Kabuto for Noburi? We don't really have a reason to keep up op-sec on bloodline secrets (though no need to be careless) once we're citizens, so…
- This is how we get to be able to implant bloodlines, people
- Mention to Noburi that no one (that Noburi's aware of) has before tested the long term effects of Wakahisa water on plants and animals (or civilians…).
- The tacit understanding that his team is of great value to Hazou (as if that wasn't made clear with his little faux pas re: Akane), so they aren't to be treated as deniable assets any more than he.
- Hazou understands that he's Leaf's golden goose, but he would like to be given more freedom of movement as he grows stronger; by the time he's of high chuunin level strength, his seals should force multiply him to be able to take on a Jounin. By the time he's a Jounin, it should take multiple of them. Therefore, he should be able to move through at least Fire as he approaches these levels.
What details are we waiting for?I finally got over the whole Leaf citizenship thingie ages ago, but we still haven't made any headway toward Leaf citizenship because we're still waiting for details.
Well, we don't have to have details on how the fighting style works until we actually get into a fight. @OliWhail was the one responsible for the gauntlet's mechanics, and they already have the mechanics for Kagome's explosive style.You're putting a lot on @Velorien 's plate by making him consider macerators, explosives, and gauntlet in addition to sealing research.
That's what my plans look like on first draftAH. The paragraphs! DIE IN THE FIRE!
Also, I would add all of Jiraiya's Seals in case the projects are completed early.
I'm not sure I agree with this, but I'll take it under advisement.Too much stuff to talk about in one update. Please focus on one aspect of the Leaf negotiation process.
Noted on all counts. Will work on it asap, but I do note that the injunction against Training + Research applies to Noburi just as well as Hazou, and Noburi has 258 XP as it is, so...Seems to be almost all about joining Leaf. It'd be nice if it had more stuff re: Noburi's research, any other immediate concerns we might have. Also wall of text hurt my eyes and no summary of actions.
Vote Count said:Plan Name: Training Noburi: Slightly More Likely To Succeed
Author: @Cariyaga
Voters: @will408914, @fiirofa, @Inferno Vulpix, @MadScientist
Num Votes: 5
Plan Name: Training Noburi: Sōgyo no Kotowari
Author: @faflec
Voters: @Oneiros43, @MadScientist, @Citrus
Num Votes: 4
Plan Name: Nuke Module: The Einstein–Szilard Letter
Author: @fiirofa
Num Votes: 1
Plan Name: Action Plan: To Build an Empire
Author: @Radvic
Num Votes: 1
Plan Name: Let us never do whatever the hell I just calculated.
Author: @rkyeun
Num Votes: 1
Plan Name: Action Plan: Will of Fire
Author: @Cariyaga
Num Votes: 1
Total Voters: 10
That plan has nothing about sending messages. It is talking about how to send messages.Again, let's actually finish the skywalkers before sending any messages about trading them. Chickens, eggs, hatched, count.
That plan has nothing about sending messages. It is talking about how to send messages.
e: To be clear, italics for emphasis; I'm not upset