(a) if Shadow Step requires a supplemental action on top of the supplemental required by Substitution
It does not.


(b) which of her shadow jutsu Kei thinks would be most helpful to level right now.
Shadow Imitation is probably the best in a vacuum, but in terms of short-term payoff, probably Shadow Step or Shadow Visage.


Is Shadow Step a technique that you cast once which then lasts a while without further investment, or do you have to cast it every time you want to use it?
You need to cast it every time you want to use it.


Is Shadow Visage an Armour technique?
No.


Out of Shadow Imitation, Shadow Step, and Shadow Visage, which does Kei think she would most benefit from training?
See above.
 
Okay I would just buy Shadow Step then. Seems like the best value, and we already have the buff stunt for it

EDIT: Looks like we could buy up to Shadow Step 28 with the Yam XP. Seems like we should do that.
 
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Okay I would just buy Shadow Step then. Seems like the best value, and we already have the buff stunt for it
My thoughts are to keep it in lockstep with Substitution. Level it to 25, and keep it there until we need to level it with Substitution.

As for Shadow Imitation supposedly being the best, longterm... I don't really see the point. Kei already has a ranged option, and it's pretty powerful when supplemented by our seals (KISS, Explosives, etc) and her ninjuts (CotWG, looking at you). I'm not sure it's worth it to raise Shadow Imitate using Yamanaka XP, given how long it'll take. And her "real" XP is better spent elsewhere, imo.

There has to be something there that we're not able to see yet. Kei, stop being such a square and spill the mechanics. We're missing nin, and thus, not legally people. And that means we're immune to treason accusations!
 
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Screw it. @eaglejarl @Paperclipped @Velorien , what's the ruling on this? Is Kei's character sheet violating the pyramid rules a special case, or an example of a general rule that you can break the number-of-skills-at-AB requirement (bolded below) as long as you're not trying to raise a new capstone?
It's a special case. It happened because we made a rules change that invalidated her sheet; we weren't going to retroactively punish her, so we simply said it could stay so long as it eventually got straightened out and she didn't raise a new capstone or do anything that would make the situation worse.
 
My thoughts are to keep it in lockstep with Substitution. Level it to 25, and keep it there until we need to level it with Substitution.

As for Shadow Imitation supposedly being the best, longterm... I don't really see the point. Kei already has a ranged option, and it's pretty powerful when supplemented by our seals (KISS, Explosives, etc) and her ninjuts (CotWG, looking at you). I'm not sure it's worth it to raise Shadow Imitate using Yamanaka XP, given how long it'll take. And her "real" XP is better spent elsewhere, imo.

There has to be something there that we're not able to see yet. Kei, stop being such a square and spill the mechanics. We're missing nin, and thus, not legally people. And that means we're immune to treason accusations!
Why? It's free XP and none of the other jutsu seem immediately useful. We keep Sub at Ath/2 since that's XP efficient. But this is free XP, no reason to bother with that.
 
Ok - since Shadow Step apparently can be cast using the same Supplemental as Substitution, I'm cool with pushing up Shadow Step. Since we don't know exactly how it combines with Substitution, though, it's hard to say how high to level it - but lockstep with Sub seems like a reasonable guess, and pushing it higher might plausibly be a waste.

… On second thought, given that Kei needs more 30s for pyramid support, I'm fine with pushing Shadow Step to 30 (so high as possible now, then to 30 once we get the Yamanaka XP to do it.) We'll raise Sub that high eventually, and I think it's unlikely that having Shadow Step at par with Substitution will turn out to be a waste.

As for Shadow Imitation supposedly being the best, longterm... I don't really see the point. Kei already has a ranged option, and it's pretty powerful when supplemented by our seals (KISS, Explosives, etc) and her ninjuts (CotWG, looking at you). I'm not sure it's worth it to raise Shadow Imitate using Yamanaka XP, given how long it'll take. And her "real" XP is better spent elsewhere, imo.
In addition to this, Shadow Imitation presumably rolls to attack, and therefore will benefit from the elemental capped-bonus stunts; which means it may not make sense to have it as capstone Shadow, rather than a technique that doesn't roll. That said, it might have some major Effect-based boost that means it benefits from being at a higher base level, and it might not make sense to level any of the others that high … but regardless, while I can see the utility of an esoteric ninjutsu that lets you control someone else's body, it seems unlikely that it'll be useful without a huge amount of investment.
 
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