"Hazō's surpassed me as a sealmaster, you know," he said eventually. "I'm ever so proud of him. 3D sealing, the art of the original masters, can you imagine? As his teacher, I always hoped–no, knew–that it would happen eventually, and look at him. Only sixteen, and he's already left me in the dust."

"Well, that's the thing, isn't it?" Kagome asked. "What's the good of a teacher with nothing left to teach? Might as well stick old Kagome in a nice secondary research facility and let him tinker with his chūnin-level toys, maybe get him some more apprentices and see if any of them survive–not that they will because he's stupid and can't even drum basic sealing safety into their heads–while the special jōnin goes off to change the world and maybe finds time to come talk shop once in a blue moon.
See, this is phenomenal writing. Thanks, I hate it so much.

Like, I get it, we have surpassed Kagome. We are giving him chunin-level projects to work on in his secondary research facility.

It's fucked up and I don't know what to do about it. We need those projects. If we had 3 more of him we'd still be desperately behind.

I just don't know what to do. He's incredibly valuable. The nature of Sealing is it's much more efficient to have sealmasters work seperately if you have two projects that both need to be completed.

So we end up tossing him the easier ones to complete one at a time.
 
Okay now that we've discussed difficulty checks how about genin seals.

Right now I'm interested in:
Cooling Seals
Explosive 2.0
Earth Bullet

Will edit others in later.
 
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maybe get him some more apprentices and see if any of them survive–not that they will because he's stupid and can't even drum basic sealing safety into their heads
Kei helped some of Akane's students train in Ranged Weapons. I wonder if Kei feels guilty, and wonders if she had been a better tutor, then Akane and her genin would've survived their combat encounter? Kei has one hell of a guilt complex, after all.
 
Beautiful chapter.

[X] Armageddon Initiative
[X] Kagomegeddon Initiative
Armageddon is only mostly explosives. Kagomegeddon is, of course, entirely explosive aside from the tripwires and such.
 
Okay now that we've discussed difficulty checks how about genin seals.

Right now I'm interested in:
Cooling Seals
Explosive 2.0
Earth Bullet

Will edit others in later.

IIRC, we've also already made some progress on the genin version of the Earth Pillar Seal. Since we've already made some progress on it, it should be easy enough to finish up and get some veterancy towards the Homing Earth Bullet Seal.
 
IIRC, we've also already made some progress on the genin version of the Earth Pillar Seal. Since we've already made some progress on it, it should be easy enough to finish up and get some veterancy towards the Homing Earth Bullet Seal
We've completed the Earth Pillar Seal

The Earth Bullet should be even more veterancy.

Hazō finishes Earth Pillar on day 4! No sweat. Tentative mechanics: creates a pillar of earth when the seal is activated while placed on the ground, potentially making an Aspect like "Instant Cover Anywhere"

Would it be too metagamey to explicitly write that Hazō is thinking of these for climate control (such as for our research bases in hit areas) and not for anything related to creating an EM-nuke through sealing?



Just in case we get interrogated later.

No, we are intentionally building nukes. I am not bothering with this for the next 2 weeks where it might be relevant.
 
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Full reaction post as the kiddo is asleep, today is Friday for me, Vel has previously voiced concerns related to his ability to write Kagome, and because I loved the chapter.
Kagome conflates his worth to us with his utility, and feels that he's worth less and less. Kei, would you be able to talk to him about this, and try to help him through his feelings?
The entirety of this chapter came from this snippet. It was well-crafted and a great thought, but given how long plans normally are, that's really not a lot to go on.
Kei was not a healer. Even Akane had not dared to do more than subtly hint at future possibilities, which Kei had rejected out of hand. A slug stood only to lose from dreaming of flight.
inb4 the Slugs have flight jutsu.

Actually, can we stick a Slug on a Skyslider? (Is there anyone proficient with Skysliders left now that Akane's gone?)
Of course he was surprised to see her actively seeking him out. The process of elimination that had remorselessly marked her for this task neglected their usual dynamic: the two least sensitive and most volatile members of the family took care, by silent agreement, to limit direct contact, lest one carelessly trigger the other's MARS array of issues and catastrophe result.
I really love having things that I've never noticed about the story pointed out to me by characters. They don't interact much, and it does make perfect sense that this isn't just coincidence. Yet, I'd never actually noticed it. Delicious. Wonderful. The world feels alive and real.
"Hazō suggested that I speak with you," Kei said frankly, aware that the sophisticated social dance necessary to disguise the fact was beyond her. "I believe it is his impression that, as one who has miraculously achieved an acceptable degree of functionality in the face of a history of extensive self-loathing, realism, and suicidal ideation, I may be of service to you in coping with your own difficulties. Needless to say, the idea is wildly delusional, but I request that you humour him nonetheless."
Wildly delusional? Wildly delusional?

I'll show you wildly delusional.
"What difficulties?" Kagome demanded in the tone of a man unjustly accused of murder. "I'm not having any difficulties, Kei. That's just ridiculous. Everything is fine."
Can we get Kagome on the stage? I assume that the EN has a proud tradition of pantomime and other mummery. Between Kagome's ability to incorporate small explosions and other seals into his performances, his beautiful performances as a straight man, his impeccable timing, genre savvy, and the fact that spending time with other people learning to inhabit the minds and characters of others, I think this would be a great idea.

If we ever have to go fully missing as a family we should 100% masquerade as a troupe of travelling players. Would we get caught almost instantly? Maybe. But we'd be legends forever.
"Of course," Kei said placidly. "Then it will not concern you that Ami has just sent word of her return, together with a detailed blueprint of the room she wishes constructed next to mine, exploiting functions of the Earthshaping Technique which by rights she should have no way of knowing."

Kagome's eyes grew wide. "She what? I have to–I have to…"

He looked wildly around the room, his eyes stopping on various seal designs littering his desk and pinned to his wall, seeking, evaluating.

Then he deflated. "I have to do something…" he said in the voice of a man already defeated.

"That was an illustrative deception," Kei said. "Of course she has not returned to us."

Kagome glared daggers at her. "That was cruel, Kei. You know how I feel about Mori."

Kei nodded. "And as your response was to implicitly accuse and/or threaten my sister in front of me, I believe we are even in terms of offence given, while my point has been effectively made.
Low blow, Kei, even if it was telegraphed. Still, effective and they'll move on.
"I assure you, Kagome, that your frustration at being forced to tolerate the trust with which this clan has treated Ami, persistently ignoring your expert opinion that she is a threat, has been fully mirrored by my frustration at being forced to tolerate the suspicion with which this clan has treated Ami, persistently ignoring my expert opinion that she is trustworthy. I appreciate that you must have felt isolated and ignored, the others taking it for granted that you would suppress your true feelings and support them in the world they believed themselves to live in rather than the world that was real–not because I possess the least insight into human nature, but because I have felt the same."

"Huh," Kagome said. "Hearing you say that… after I take the Kei-ness out of it, that's actually a good way of putting it."

"None taken," Kei muttered.

"What?"
Yeah, Kei, wildly delusional of us to think that you might have something to talk about with Kagome here.

The man likes a straightforward conversation and while you're capable of artifice, it requires that you put a lot of effort into it. If you're talking - not always a given, you sit on things - you explain things logically and with a lot of compassion for everyone else involved.

It's incredibly strenuous for you and it wouldn't be fair for us to ask you to do it a lot, but you're...there's a metaphor about a sharp and accurate kunai here I can't quite get. Please fill in your own.
"I get why they did it," Kagome said. "They made a point of explaining–once it was too late, anyway. Hazō is a good kid, always has been. Him wanting to offer somebody redemption from time to time is just the kind of thing you have to live with. It's how I ended up part of this family, and I was… well, I nearly killed him when we first met. Nothing like Mori and her silver tongue. And I get the politics angle, too. Even I can see how incredibly useful somebody like her would be as an ally–the difference is that they've let down their guard enough to think she can be an ally, and I'm sorry, Kei, but there's nothing you can say to make me believe that deep down."

"It is not my business to attempt to persuade you," Kei said. "By this point, I have accepted that she will earn your trust through her own actions."

The look Kagome gave her was not simply uncomfortable. It was haunted, to the point that for a second Kei felt remorse for what Ami's mere existence had inflicted on this man.

"That's what I'm afraid of," Kagome whispered.
Kagome is self aware and logical. Kei is logical and generally aware, even if there's a big gap in her awareness with her self at the center. Again: this just makes sense, and maybe we should actually tell them? They'd both take it as a compliment if we angled it just right.

Also, Ami trying to earn Kagome's trust would be something. I think she'd have good odds of pulling it off now that she's family. Wouldn't have been possible before, but if she shows back up I think she could probably manage it, to their mutual benefit.
"You have acknowledged your feelings of being ignored and isolated. I have recently developed a… converse perspective on the matter. After an incident in which Hazō failed to consult me as his sanity-checker, to predictable effect, I began to appreciate the privilege involved in that sometimes onerous role. It is a matter of discomfort to observe how others within the clan, though vastly more qualified than I in a variety of significant domains, are consulted only on matters directly within their purview, and otherwise kept from the levers of power–usually not out of distrust or disrespect, but simply because their opinions are… not necessary.

"Hazō has magnificently transcended his youthful flaw of disregarding others' humanity, and from a Nara perspective, constraining the number of parties involved is a perfectly rational approach to optimising the decision-making process. Yet what must the experience be on the other side of the divide, aware of the frequency and regularity of these meetings, yet so rarely invited to participate?"
Youthful? I hadn't appreciated just how hard Kei'd taken Akane's vanishing.

Regardless: more fire from Kei. We stan a genuine and communicative queen.
Kagome looked at her thoughtfully. "You're a good kid too, Kei."

She gave him a look of deepest scepticism, such as would plumb the bottomless chasms to their limit and awaken the sleeping primordial horrors whose wrath once tore the caverns now known as Hidden Rock out of the flesh of the earth. Kagome appeared not to notice.

"t's not even that I mind so much," he said. "I know full well that I'm not the politician in the family, and economics sends me running to the willowbark drawer. Most of the time, I imagine you talk about stuff I wouldn't be able to help with anyway. But…"
Their mutual social blind spots work in remarkably complimentary ways. Kagome is simultaneously too keyed into objective reality and too oblivious for Kei's crippling self-worth issues to really phase him, and Kei's incapable of treating anyone she likes with anything other than the utmost respect and openness.
"But there is no more efficacious means to degrade one's self-esteem than to witness one's loved ones treat one as surplus to requirements," Kei concluded. "I was only four years younger than Ami–a significant distance, to be certain, but not to the point that her conversations with my parents on abstract topics did not eventually become comprehensible to me. Yet it was not until I observed interactions among the Nara that I learned that it is not a given that a child be discouraged from participation in adult conversations, even banished should her ignorant comments be judged distracting.

"At the time, however, the experience only reinforced my conviction that I was a creature of a different species from Ami, and my business was to attend to my studies–which, I hasten to add, my parents supported and encouraged, in full understanding that utility cannot be reaped without investment–while leaving matters of import to those with actual competence."
Damn, Kei. That's a shitty childhood. Like, I knew all that, but damn.
"Kei," Kagome said, "I know we don't often talk, but I want to make sure you know your parents are terrible people, and you did not deserve any of that. Besides, look at you now, second-in-command of the smartest clan in the world, Queen of the KEI, one of the village's big movers and shakers–shows what they knew, huh?"
Again the mutual blind spots: they're both pathologically honest and wear their hearts on their sleeves. It makes perfect sense that they'd get along with each other, as long as they're in a situation that allows them to extend the other a healthy amount of grace.

(Wildly delusional, huh?)
"The extent to which any of those were my achievements, or deserved in any way, is subject to debate," Kei objected. "However… I am in the process of re-evaluating certain life lessons that have shaped my identity. The process is slow and torturous, especially in Akane's absence, and plagued with subjectivity, as it is nigh-impossible for me to distinguish between those experiences which are natural to childhood and to which I merely overreacted as a result of my personal failings and those which were… abnormal, representing genuine harm. Sometimes I still wonder if the latter category actually exists."

This was altogether more openness than her relationship with Kagome merited, Kei was aware. She had not even discussed the subject with Hazō. However, Akane had led by example when offering vulnerability to earn vulnerability, and what Kei could not achieve through being a person deserving of trust, she could at least imitate for instrumental purposes.
Good for her for doing the work. It's hard but deeply worthwhile. Can anyone even conceptualize of what Kei would be like if she had some self-esteem? A weapon to surpass Metal Gear. End-of-story HPMoR Hermoine. Easily Ami's better.

I wonder if the Snow Globe trades off being therapist, or if that'd be completely ineffective.

I really want to see Mari's Shadow Clones, especially if they do a similar personality-fragmenting thing.
"However," she said, having reached her limits, "I did not come here to speak of myself. My intended point is that any suffering on your part from feelings of uselessness or neglect is both legitimate and understandable. So much so, in fact, that even I can understand and accept it, despite my general obliviousness to the inner lives of others."

Kagome simply sat and stared at her for a while. It did not feel like a glare; rather, he was processing, and she, as the trigger, happened to continue to be in his field of view. Kei suspected it might be a social faux pas, so she made a note to research it in the library later.
This entire chapter is delicious validation of my frameworks for conducting emotional conversations. Validate. Be honest. Be open. Care. Stay focused. Don't sign off on anyone's bullshit, but don't get dragged down fighting them on it.
"Hazō's surpassed me as a sealmaster, you know," he said eventually. "I'm ever so proud of him. 3D sealing, the art of the original masters, can you imagine? As his teacher, I always hoped–no, knew–that it would happen eventually, and look at him. Only sixteen, and he's already left me in the dust."

"You should perhaps refrain from discussion of certain topics in casual conversation," Kei said coolly. Honestly, how did this clan survive the periods of her absence?

"Oh. I mean, we were only talking about… about freebie stealing! Yeah! Hazō just loves the, uh, thrill of crime even when he's already getting the thing for free, everybody knows that!"
I admittedly don't know what the theft angle is about.

That said: my heart breaks for Kagome a little bit here, but at the same time...that's how parenting works. Maybe he's not quite our dad, but he's our extremely involved uncle, and part of that relationship is that your kids grow up. Maybe we can get him talking with some other parents and see if that works. Heck, maybe even just telling him that he is a parent would do it.

One of my partners isn't totally comfortable being m[o/u]m/dad - she's definitely a lady and definitely a parent but she isn't genetically involved in the kid and the idea of being called m[o/u]m freaks her out a bit, so she calls herself a parent for the most part. We should see if we can get Kagome on that train, because right now I think that he looks at a lot of our accomplishments like he had nothing to do with them. That's just not true.
"Am I to assume, given the overall topic, that this jubilation at Hazō's success is not unqualified?"

"Well, that's the thing, isn't it?" Kagome asked. "What's the good of a teacher with nothing left to teach? Might as well stick old Kagome in a nice secondary research facility and let him tinker with his chūnin-level toys, maybe get him some more apprentices and see if any of them survive–not that they will because he's stupid and can't even drum basic sealing safety into their heads–while the special jōnin goes off to change the world and maybe finds time to come talk shop once in a blue moon.

"It's a good thing. It's how it's supposed to be. I get it."
Yeah, I think the parenting angle has something to be said for it. This is what happens - kids grow up and have their own lives, but the parent doesn't stop being useful or important in any way.

Also: does anyone actually think that Sherlock didn't need Watson? That Batman didn't need Robin? That they aren't heroes in their own right? Yeah, Kagome, we do actually need you. We can't be everywhere at once and you have a unique set of skills - laser focus and utter dedication to what you think is right and important - that we just don't have.
"And yet," Kei said.

"Yeah," Kagome said heavily. "Sorry to be dumping all of that on you, Kei. Things aren't that bad. Honestly. I mean it. Just… everybody has their own stuff going on–you more than anyone, the way I hear it–and I can't just go complaining to them over every little thing. Heck, I'm the oldest one here. I should at least try to act like an adult."

"Adulthood requires relying on others for support when necessary, and if one is in doubt, then it is necessary," Kei said. "It is a lesson I am steadfastly failing to learn, but fortunately I have people who equally steadfastly apply it to my cranium with percussive force at regular intervals."
The entire point of a family - in theory, at least - is unconditional support. I don't know that Kagome really views us as his family, or if he does, he's still the guy in the tree in the woods, throwing explosives at chakra beasts. He's not there with us in the same way. We can work on that with him.
Kagome gave her a look she was unable to read.

"It was a good talk, Kei," he said, which she understood meant he wished to terminate the interaction. Frankly, she was amazed he had tolerated her blundering attempts at emotional connection this long.

His next words thus took her completely by surprise.

"We should talk more. Maybe you can come by again sometime?"
Kei surprises Kagome with her maturity, Kagome surprises Kei with his maturity, even if she didn't recognize it as maturity.

Wildly delusional, Kei? Maybe one of us was wildly delusional about this, but it wasn't us.

You're obligated by your bloodline to logically assess the situation on the basis of new evidence.
But... what of their carefully-maintained social no man's land? Had he forgotten that only cataclysm could come of their extended direct interaction, as on the day she received Mewhō from the Nara Keiko Fan Club, when he thoughtlessly touched her without warning and she equally thoughtlessly cursed him for that innocent mistake? No, safety could be found only in separation, for both their sakes.

"You know," Kagome mused as she failed to assent, "I came across a curious carrot cake recipe in an Akimichi cookbook the other day. Apparently, Fire Country walnuts really enhance the taste if you prep them right. Of course, the Akimichi love to exaggerate, and what's 'out of this world' supposed to mean anyway?"

"I believe that if I reorganise my itinerary, I can generate a free evening slot by the end of the week."
Good thing that Ezactliwat learned from Mewhō's mistakes.

Also the fact that mention of carrot cake would have been a bald-faced manipulation coming from anyone else is kinda wonderful because from Kagome it's exclusively him trying to connect with Kei on a topic of their shared interest. Man, I love character growth.
Kei suspected that a more insightful being than she could read volumes into the fact that over the last three years, she had been or become estranged from five different family members, or that she had successfully reconnected with them all, or that over half of the reconnections were in some way Hazō's fault.
Wildly delusi-what?

Great chapter. Fantastic read and the natural consequence of a bunch of longer-term investments which continue to pay off.

Anyway, we gotta spend some more time with Dadgome and make sure that he knows how we feel and what he is to us.
 
"I assure you, Kagome, that your frustration at being forced to tolerate the trust with which this clan has treated Ami, persistently ignoring your expert opinion that she is a threat, has been fully mirrored by my frustration at being forced to tolerate the suspicion with which this clan has treated Ami, persistently ignoring my expert opinion that she is trustworthy. I appreciate that you must have felt isolated and ignored, the others taking it for granted that you would suppress your true feelings and support them in the world they believed themselves to live in rather than the world that was real–not because I possess the least insight into human nature, but because I have felt the same."

"Huh," Kagome said. "Hearing you say that… after I take the Kei-ness out of it, that's actually a good way of putting it."

"None taken," Kei muttered.

"What?"

"Never mind," Kei said.
We have been robbed.

We have been knowingly and–
Of course he was surprised to see her actively seeking him out. The process of elimination that had remorselessly marked her for this task neglected their usual dynamic: the two least sensitive and most volatile members of the family took care, by silent agreement, to limit direct contact, lest one carelessly trigger the other's MARS array of issues and catastrophe result.
deliberately robbed of something amazing.
Kagome simply sat and stared at her for a while. It did not feel like a glare; rather, he was processing, and she, as the trigger, happened to continue to be in his field of view. Kei suspected it might be a social faux pas, so she made a note to research it in the library later.
This is pure gold.
"We should talk more. Maybe you can come by again sometime?"
Yes!

Half of the whole research arc should consist of Kei & Kagome interludes. Can we make this happen, logistically?
 
Half of the whole research arc should consist of Kei & Kagome interludes. Can we make this happen, logistically?
We can vote in interludes and lore updates, but the rule is that such votes are always requests. The QMs are allowed to ignore the vote --even if it's the winning plan --in favor of a standard action plan that progresses the timeline.
 
Kei suspected that a more insightful being than she could read volumes into the fact that over the last three years, she had been or become estranged from five different family members, or that she had successfully reconnected with them all, or that over half of the reconnections were in some way Hazō's fault.
Which ones is she talking about, by the way? Mari, Ami, and now Kagome are the obvious ones, but who else?
  • Akane? I'm not sure Kei's initial hostility towards her counts as "being estranged from a family member", though – I'd say it's more that she didn't consider Akane a family member up to a point. And past this point, I don't think they had any notable falling-outs...
  • Noburi? He'd reacted very poorly to Kei blurting out a statement that could be interpreted as her only caring about Mari, way back when, but I'm not sure it was anything as bad as being estranged.
  • Hazou? She'd reacted very poorly to our absolutely brilliant Ami Date plan, way back when. I think that arguably could be counted as (very brief) estrangement?
  • Shikamaru? He'd screwed up with his marriage-sealing announcement at the Chuunni Exams. But much like with Akane, I'd characterize it as not counting as family at first...
  • Snowflake? Again, it's more like she wasn't family until she was, not that she was estranged.
  • Jiraiya? He's kinda still estranged.
  • Anna? But I don't think Kei got the chance to finish vivisecting her, so she's still estranged.
Uhh. Hm. What other family members does Kei have?
 
Hazou? She'd reacted very poorly to our absolutely brilliant Ami Date plan, way back when. I think that arguably could be counted as (very brief) estrangement?
I think the part where she had her whole breakdown about our having terrible plans/ideas about what to do in Isan would have counted as at least temporary estrangement from Hazo.
 
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