Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

Solonarv · Jun 7, 2017

Veedrac said:
The ISS weighs ~400 tons under Earth gravity.

For the sake of pedantry:

The ISS always has a mass of 400 tons, whether it's under Earth gravity, in LEO (note: gravity there is nearly as strong as on the surface, you just don't notice it if you're in free fall), on the Moon, or falling into the sun. Its weight under Earth-surface gravity is about 4e6 N.

Edit: fixed a BBCode typo.

bayesclef · Jun 7, 2017

Cariyaga said:
As an aside, I'm not sure how ridiculous this would be, but, um... approximately 80% of one's blood content is water. ...Could Noburi store chakra in his own blood?

Alternately, he could store chakra in someone else's blood. My guess would be that, since ingesting chakra water transfers chakra, the storee would have access to the chakra. This would mean that Kei would get Noburi.Control * 30 additional chakras to spend on a summon. Right now, Kei.Capacity == 17 and Noburi.Control == 13, meaning that this would represent a 129% increase in the amount of Chakra she can dump into a summon.

I was going to say it's implausible that no Wakahisa ever came up with this, except that the only reason we generated the idea was storing chakra in Noburi's blood was that we needed the stealth. My understanding is that the Wakahisa in Mist are utilized in support roles: they never had a pressing need to get rid of the barrel, especially since infiltration-type missions don't need an overabundance of firepower, so it's plausible that the barrel could be done away with and the Wakahisa just never developed the innovation.

ETA: I think there's a moderately low probability that storing in your own blood works (mostly because the barrel requires seals), a moderately high probability that storing in someone's blood works given that storing in your own blood works, and a high probability that a storee can access stored chakra given storing in someone else's blood.

Matesz · Jun 7, 2017

I didn't notice a single person trying a certain, interesting concept.

A seal-making Seal.

It would be technically possible to use a storage seal to compress barells of Chakra ink/water/anything, that would be devised to let the ink out in a specific shape, effectively producing a seal ready to infuse. Im pretty sure it would be easy to simply write in the shape into the seal itself, forcing it to effectively perfectly replicate our brushstrokes. The only thing im trying to work out is the system to swap out seal paper.

Just throwing an idea and seeing if it sticks.

Kiba · Jun 7, 2017

Matesz said:
I didn't notice a single person trying a certain, interesting concept.

A seal-making Seal.

It would be technically possible to use a storage seal to compress barells of Chakra ink/water/anything, that would be devised to let the ink out in a specific shape, effectively producing a seal ready to infuse. Im pretty sure it would be easy to simply write in the shape into the seal itself, forcing it to effectively perfectly replicate our brushstrokes. The only thing im trying to work out is the system to swap out seal paper.

Just throwing an idea and seeing if it sticks.

Already been proposed. It won't work because you need to create actual brushstrokes.

Inferno Vulpix · Jun 7, 2017

Kiba said:
Already been proposed. It won't work because you need to create actual brushstrokes.

This could be different from printing press seals, though. If we can make the seal replicate not only the pattern, but the subtleties of the brushstrokes, it should work.

That said, it also sounds really difficult to make, in the sense that if it were easy I'd expect someone to have already made it, but we can at least ask Kagome.

faflec · Jun 7, 2017

eaglejarl said:
It did happen, but we'll have to let you know later what came of it -- that conversation depends on some worldbuilding getting done about who the Minami are.

@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Obligatory request for information in a desperate effort to stir up action plan-related conversation.

traverseda · Jun 7, 2017

I would presume that things like the stroke order and angle the brush was held are a part of the seal. Possibly even the amount of time it takes to draw a stoke. I don't think that seals are necessarily 3D objects. I think they're 4D, and anything that ignores the time axis is bound to fail.

bayesclef · Jun 7, 2017

Matesz said:
A seal-making Seal.

I assume that, for reasons similar to monkeys writing the works of Shakespeare, that if we cause sufficient sealing failures, one of otherworldy denizens we summon will create seals.

Does that count?

Raxner · Jun 7, 2017

A question for everybody, only tangentially related to the quest.

The other day, I mentioned to my kids the existence of RPGs, and explained the concept. The kids were excited about it, and want me to start a regular family game with them. Problem is, I don't really have a gaming background, and don't want to get a game that'll be too hard for me to understand as a fledgling GM. Any suggestions for appropriate sets or rulebooks for beginners? Thanks.

Vecht · Jun 7, 2017

[] Action Plan: Stir Things Up for faflec with Thinly Disguised Metagaming

Ask around to see if anyone's heard rumors of the Akatsuki.
If so, follow the rumors and try not to die.
If not, take take a short respite from the mission to check out the chakra rain in Rain again. Take a casual stroll through the countryside, loudly singing the time-old classic "Where-oh-where has the Rainy Gone?" until someone shows up to greet us.

Oneiros · Jun 7, 2017

Raxner said:
A question for everybody, only tangentially related to the quest.

The other day, I mentioned to my kids the existence of RPGs, and explained the concept. The kids were excited about it, and want me to start a regular family game with them. Problem is, I don't really have a gaming background, and don't want to get a game that'll be too hard for me to understand as a fledgling GM. Any suggestions for appropriate sets or rulebooks for beginners? Thanks.

The pathfinder begginer box is decent if you want to look into that

Raxner · Jun 7, 2017

Why not?

[X] Action Plan: Stir Things Up for faflec with Thinly Disguised Metagaming

Oneiros43 said:
The pathfinder begginer box is decent if you want to look into that

Pathfinder? What kind of world is that game set in? And thanks!

Adhoc vote count started by Raxner on Jun 7, 2017 at 2:09 PM, finished with 963 posts and 15 votes.

6 people have voted
[X] Action Plan: Respite Anew
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[X] Action Plan: Respite
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[x] Training Kei: Stealthy Ninja
- Restinan
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[x] Training Noburi: Stealthy Ninja
- Restinan
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[X] Training Hazou: Stealthy Ninja
- Restinan
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[x] Respite Anew
- hYGP
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[X] Action plan:
- Radvic
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[X] Action Plan: No Blaming Hazou!
- Matesz
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[X] Action Plan: Stir Things Up for faflec with Thinly Disguised Metagaming
- Raxner

Oneiros · Jun 7, 2017

Vecht said:
[] Action Plan: Stir Things Up for faflec with Thinly Disguised Metagaming

Ask around to see if anyone's heard rumors of the Akatsuki.

If so, follow the rumors and try not to die.

If not, take take a short respite from the mission to check out the chakra rain in Rain again. Take a casual stroll through the countryside, loudly singing the time-old classic "Where-oh-where has the Rainy Gone?" until someone shows up to greet us.

I mean we can probably kill 4 of them with tears of god strike

Oneiros · Jun 7, 2017

Raxner said:
Pathfinder? What kind of world is that game set in? And thanks!

It's a system based of DnD 3.5. It's pretty generic fantasy as far as setting goes

Is a stand alone adventure designed to introduce new players to the game. It's a pretty good way to ease every one into it

Raxner · Jun 7, 2017

Oneiros43 said:
It's a system based of DnD 3.5. It's pretty generic fantasy as far as setting goes

Sounds good. What equipment will I need to buy? Just a few basic books and some dice?

Oneiros · Jun 7, 2017

Raxner said:
Sounds good. What equipment will I need to buy? Just a few basic books and some dice?

This is all you will need to run your first adventure.
paizo.com - Store / Paizo Inc / Pathfinder(R) / Pathfinder Roleplaying Game / Products / Beginner Box

Raxner · Jun 7, 2017

Oneiros43 said:
This is all you will need to run your first adventure.
paizo.com - Store / Paizo Inc / Pathfinder(R) / Pathfinder Roleplaying Game / Products / Beginner Box

Terrific. Thank you very much!

Cariyaga · Jun 7, 2017

Raxner said:
A question for everybody, only tangentially related to the quest.

The other day, I mentioned to my kids the existence of RPGs, and explained the concept. The kids were excited about it, and want me to start a regular family game with them. Problem is, I don't really have a gaming background, and don't want to get a game that'll be too hard for me to understand as a fledgling GM. Any suggestions for appropriate sets or rulebooks for beginners? Thanks.

Here and here are options

Raxner · Jun 7, 2017

Cariyaga said:
Here and here are options

Thank you.

T_of_A · Jun 7, 2017

Raxner said:
A question for everybody, only tangentially related to the quest.

The other day, I mentioned to my kids the existence of RPGs, and explained the concept. The kids were excited about it, and want me to start a regular family game with them. Problem is, I don't really have a gaming background, and don't want to get a game that'll be too hard for me to understand as a fledgling GM. Any suggestions for appropriate sets or rulebooks for beginners? Thanks.

I would suggest D&D 5e. There's a good beginner box, and the rules are easier to learn for kids. It's also pretty fun.
On the other hand, Pathfinder *is* a good game. It has a ton of options though, so Googling it leads to strange and wonderful things. And it's heaven for powergamers because of all the supplements and options, so it can be hard to GM for is your players are like that.
Or have them play with the Marked for Death rules!

My personal favourite RPGs were the Dark Heresy games, but they were discontinued a few months ago because of stupid copywrite issues... :'(

Cariyaga · Jun 7, 2017

faflec said:
Something I think we should discuss with Noburi:

Now that we have Misterators I'm fairly certain that with training Noburi can respawn Water Clones from a distance, without having to use chakra.

Oh. Oh. We need to get Noburi to work on the chakra efficiency of that so that we can have the unstoppable march of the water clones -- or, hopefully, the unstoppable march of the shadow clones if he's taught that.

faflec · Jun 7, 2017

Cariyaga said:
Oh. Oh. We need to get Noburi to work on the chakra efficiency of that so that we can have the unstoppable march of the water clones -- or, hopefully, the unstoppable march of the shadow clones if he's taught that.

Which actually justifies us leveling Water Clone for Noburi; this way, he can simultaneously mass-drain enemies in Mist while harassing them with swarms of Water Clones that, when destroyed, simply reform.

Edit: Right now he can train Stealth 15 + Water Clone 18.

Raxner · Jun 7, 2017

TalonofAnathrax said:
I would suggest D&D 5e. There's a good beginner box, and the rules are easier to learn for kids. It's also pretty fun.
On the other hand, Pathfinder *is* a good game. It has a ton of options though, so Googling it leads to strange and wonderful things. And it's heaven for powergamers because of all the supplements and options, so it can be hard to GM for is your players are like that.
Or have them play with the Marked for Death rules!

My personal favourite RPGs were the Dark Heresy games, but they were discontinued a few months ago because of stupid copywrite issues... :'(

My players are children aged 9 to 13, none of whom even knew that RPGs exist until I told them, a few days ago. As for the MfD rules--I don't really understand them!

No, I and they are beginners, and I want an easy learning curve. I put enough effort into learning serious things, I don't want learning a game to be a chore.

Cariyaga · Jun 7, 2017

Raxner said:
My players are children aged 9 to 13, none of whom even knew that RPGs exist until I told them, a few days ago. As for the MfD rules--I don't really understand them!

No, I and they are beginners, and I want an easy learning curve. I put enough effort into learning serious things, I don't want learning a game to be a chore.

I take it you're one of those weirdoes that doesn't read rulebooks in your spare time, then?

I kid, I kid!

faflec · Jun 7, 2017

@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Could one of you update the character sheets so that we have the +4XP from the last chapter? Also, were training plans done last update?

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