I'm not sure what the other villages or the public actually know about this. Jiraiya and Naruto's jounin-sensei are the only non-Akatsuki survivors. The death of a Kage is obviously impossible to hide, but other than that? Seems perfectly reasonable that Leaf and Mist fought, both Kage and some prominent Mist jounin died, and that's that. Not even sure Mist are aware Yagura might still be alive.
Akatsuki would totally spill the beans on what happened "anonymously" to bring alliances against Leaf; there's no way they wouldn't. They get to keep Leaf's resources divided between the coming war against them and rescuing Naruto, AND they'd also get to push the war which gives them more opportunities to take more Jinchuriki.
Akatsuki would totally spill the beans on what happened "anonymously" to bring alliances against Leaf; there's no way they wouldn't. They get to keep Leaf's resources divided between the coming war against them and rescuing Naruto, AND they'd also get to push the war which gives them more opportunities to take more Jinchuriki.
Would they? They have a strong motivation to keep this information from spreading as well, to hide their apparent interest in Jinchuuriki. Why should they care about Leaf specifically, now that they have Naruto? They're inherently opposed to all the villages. If I were them, I'd try to nab as many Jinchuriki as I could from the major villages while they remained ignorant of the danger.
Besides, a war would result in effective WMDs being better guarded, not worse, so I don't think it helps them right now.
Would they? They have a strong motivation to keep this information from spreading as well, to hide their apparent interest in Jinchuuriki. Why should they care about Leaf specifically, now that they have Naruto? They're inherently opposed to all the villages. If I were them, I'd try to nab as many Jinchuriki as I could from the major villages while they remained ignorant of the danger.
Besides, a war would result in effective WMDs being better guarded, not worse, so I don't think it helps them right now.
Akatsuki wouldn't say that they took the Jinchuriki, not outright at least. They'd just spread via word of mouth through their spy network to compromised agents to enemy villages (e.g., Cloud, Rock) that Konoha's Jinchuriki's MIA or something. What's Leaf going to say, yeah we lost him, but Akatsuki did it? The fuck will that accomplish?
As for why they'd care about Leaf, they'll give the sharks Leaf's blood and have them attack. Mist, too. War breaks out but Leaf's not too fucked, so enemy countries will have to deploy their jinchuriki to prevent massive loss of life.
A war would result in WMDs being deployed. They'll certainly keep their Jinchuriki safe between missions, yes; BUT as soon as they see an opportunity to screw a major enemy outpost that bijuu is getting sent out. That's when Akatsuki will strike.
Konoha doesn't want anything--the people that make up Konoha want things, and not necessarily the well-being of Konoha. Jiraiya has always presented himself as a completely loyal Konoha-nin, subordinate to his sensei the Third and happy to be so.
What if he actually wanted to get the hat, and engineered this whole situation to get it? He might have made the (utterly ruthless and cynical) decision that he would rather rule Konoha and pay the price of endangering it rather than protect it and pay the price of serving as someone else's lieutenant. I'm fairly sure that with a few minutes of research I can find people that have done just that in real life.
I mean, sure he took offense when that was suggested at the Meeting After The Showdown At The OK Corral...but that offense could just as easily be a cynical act as genuine outrage.
How do we actually know that Jiraiya is a good guy, even by the standards of Ninjaland?
Less a correction than a paranoid affirmation. It's a common mistake and I wanted to point it out for anyone else; it wasn't directed specifically at you.
That said, I'm not sure I'd say "more often", but I would say at least "a noteworthy percent".
Konoha doesn't want anything--the people that make up Konoha want things, and not necessarily the well-being of Konoha. Jiraiya has always presented himself as a completely loyal Konoha-nin, subordinate to his sensei the Third and happy to be so.
What if he actually wanted to get the hat, and engineered this whole situation to get it? He might have made the (utterly ruthless and cynical) decision that he would rather rule Konoha and pay the price of endangering it rather than protect it and pay the price of serving as someone else's lieutenant. I'm fairly sure that with a few minutes of research I can find people that have done just that in real life.
I mean, sure he took offense when that was suggested at the Meeting After The Showdown At The OK Corral...but that offense could just as easily be a cynical act as genuine outrage.
How do we actually know that Jiraiya is a good guy, even by the standards of Ninjaland?
Jiraiya was second-in-command before the Sandaime's death. Why in the seven hells would he throw away his godson (even if temporarily) and about a dozen ANBU to get the hat, instead of quietly poisoning Hiruzen? Or, since Hiruzen is 20-some years older...wait for him to die? I mean, if you're right it means Jiraiya has been waiting for decades to get the hat. Surely he could wait a bit longer, since he clearly has patience to spare?
Less a correction than a paranoid affirmation. It's a common mistake and I wanted to point it out for anyone else; it wasn't directed specifically at you.
That said, I'm not sure I'd say "more often", but I would say at least "a noteworthy percent".
Fair enough. Let's just not make the opposite mistake of assuming that only (things that we identify as) high-probability are possible. Or of assuming that the highest-probability event in any given situation has a greater than 50% chance of occurring. It could well be the case that the single highest-probability event has only a 10% chance of occurring, for example. Hence the need for failsafes, redundancy, and contingency planning.
Akatsuki wouldn't say that they took the Jinchuriki, not outright at least. They'd just spread via word of mouth through their spy network to compromised agents to enemy villages (e.g., Cloud, Rock) that Konoha's Jinchuriki's MIA or something. What's Leaf going to say, yeah we lost him, but Akatsuki did it? The fuck will that accomplish?
As for why they'd care about Leaf, they'll give the sharks Leaf's blood and have them attack. Mist, too. War breaks out but Leaf's not too fucked, so enemy countries will have to deploy their jinchuriki to prevent massive loss of life.
A war would result in WMDs being deployed. They'll certainly keep their Jinchuriki safe between missions, yes; BUT as soon as they see an opportunity to screw a major enemy outpost that bijuu is getting sent out. That's when Akatsuki will strike.
That just seems like a high risk low benefit action. Putting myself in Pein's position, my greatest advantage is my obscurity - nobody knows the resources at Akatsuki's disposal, nor its goals. I can leverage this to steal Jinchuuriki from the major villages, and happily for me, they have incentives to keep the theft secret, preserving my advantage.
However, if I start releasing this information myself for somewhat minor benefits, they lose their incentive, and may publicize my existence out of spite if nothing else. Engineering a war serious enough to have Jinchuuriki deployed would be difficult, and make their capture much more uncertain and higher risk.
So, what I'd be doing right now is desperately rushing to capture as many as possible, before my existence is revealed. I would *not* be provoking Konoha any further.
However, if I start releasing this information myself for somewhat minor benefits, they lose their incentive, and may publicize my existence out of spite if nothing else.
I am confused. How is Akatsuki releasing "Konoha's jinchuriki is gone!" to, say, Kumo, going to lead to "Akatsuki is stealing jinchuriki"? I feel like you're assuming that Leaf will find out that Kumo knows "Konoha's jinchuriki is gone!" from Akatsuki, which isn't necessarily true (and honestly I don't see a plausible reason why Kumo would let that intel slip to Leaf). FMPOV Kumo would just have to confirm with other spies (which they have in Konoha), build their military up, and do pre-emptive strikes. Nowhere does it require Leaf to find out that Akatsuki leaked this information, since it's just as likely Kumo would have found out through other methods. Like, say, noticing that Naruto the public Kyuubi jinchuriki is MIA.
I am confused. How is Akatsuki releasing "Konoha's jinchuriki is gone!" to, say, Kumo, going to lead to "Akatsuki is stealing jinchuriki"? I feel like you're assuming that Leaf will find out that Kumo knows "Konoha's jinchuriki is gone!" from Akatsuki, which isn't necessarily true (and honestly I don't see a plausible reason why Kumo would let that intel slip to Leaf). FMPOV Kumo would just have to confirm with other spies (which they have in Konoha), build their military up, and do pre-emptive strikes. Nowhere does it require Leaf to find out that Akatsuki leaked this information, since it's just as likely Kumo would have found out through other methods. Like, say, noticing that Naruto the public Kyuubi jinchuriki is MIA.
It doesn't actually matter how Kumo or Iwa or whoever else find out about this; they might even figure it out themselves. And they might have reasons to publicize it - for example, doing so in the middle of sensitive negotiations between Leaf and Mist would weaken the former's position a lot. Beyond that, as the number of people in possession of this knowledge increases, so does the probability that it gets back to Leaf.
Now, to Leaf, it may not necessarily matter if it was Akatsuki who released it originally. What does matter, is that there's not much advantage in keeping the whole event under wraps anymore. So maybe they warn Sand, their ally, in possession of the One Tail, that there's a group of S-rank missing-nin possibly after their Jinchuuriki. Suddenly, securing said Jinchuuriki becomes *much* harder for Akatsuki, war or no war.
My feeling is that, if Akatsuki would indeed release this, they'd do it as part of a serious effort to engineer a World War. In which case, our Chuunin exam might get a lot more interesting very soon...
It doesn't actually matter how Kumo or Iwa or whoever else find out about this; they might even figure it out themselves. And they might have reasons to publicize it - for example, doing so in the middle of sensitive negotiations between Leaf and Mist would weaken the former's position a lot. Beyond that, as the number of people in possession of this knowledge increases, so does the probability that it gets back to Leaf.
Now, to Leaf, it may not necessarily matter if it was Akatsuki who released it originally. What does matter, is that there's not much advantage in keeping the whole event under wraps anymore. So maybe they warn Sand, their ally, in possession of the One Tail, that there's a group of S-rank missing-nin possibly after their Jinchuuriki. Suddenly, securing said Jinchuuriki becomes *much* harder for Akatsuki, war or no war.
My feeling is that, if Akatsuki would indeed release this, they'd do it as part of a serious effort to engineer a World War. In which case, our Chuunin exam might get a lot more interesting very soon...
I disagree that there isn't an advantage to keeping it under wraps. Since telling even Sand about Akatsuki risks letting everyone know that the rumours are true.
And as for the World War plan...yeah. I'm basically operating under the assumption that Akatsuki is gonna fuckin' start shit during the Exams somehow. Either by blowing up Mist mid-Exams, or blowing up Leaf.
Jiraiya was second-in-command before the Sandaime's death. Why in the seven hells would he throw away his godson (even if temporarily) and about a dozen ANBU to get the hat, instead of quietly poisoning Hiruzen? Or, since Hiruzen is 20-some years older...wait for him to die? I mean, if you're right it means Jiraiya has been waiting for decades to get the hat. Surely he could wait a bit longer, since he clearly has patience to spare?
I'm not saying that this is what happened, just that we cannot rule it out. It's a low-probability hypothesis, not a zero-probability hypothesis. (Made somewhat more plausible by the fact that it wouldn't require anybody else's cooperation. It's a one-man coup.)
That said, a Jiraiya that would carry out such a plot probably wouldn't care a bit for other people as people. So Naruto and a bunch of ANBU get captured or killed. So what?
As for Hiruzen, it could be that he waited those decades to make sure that he'd be both politically and ninjaly strong enough to be the likely winner of the hat when Hiruzen dies, despite the inherent weakness of not having a clan to back him. It could also be that his patience simply ran out--when will the old man die already?!? It could also be that the fact that he now has two jonins and three not-neglible genins to back him up tipped the balance in favor of moving. While we're at it, getting rid of Naruto might well be a plus to Plot!Jiraiya, as he is otherwise a plausible rival for power, at least eventually.
Oh, by the way, having Hiruzen die as a result of enemy action creates a patriotic/panicky political environment which might be more conducive to his steamrolling potential clan opposition to his ascension. Which actually happened.
Basically, I'm asking how we know that Jiraiya is not playing Stalin to Hiruzen's Lenin.
I'm not saying that this is what happened, just that we cannot rule it out. It's a low-probability hypothesis, not a zero-probability hypothesis. (Made somewhat more plausible by the fact that it wouldn't require anybody else's cooperation. It's a one-man coup.)
That said, a Jiraiya that would carry out such a plot probably wouldn't care a bit for other people as people. So Naruto and a bunch of ANBU get captured or killed. So what?
As for Hiruzen, it could be that he waited those decades to make sure that he'd be both politically and ninjaly strong enough to be the likely winner of the hat when Hiruzen dies, despite the inherent weakness of not having a clan to back him. It could also be that his patience simply ran out--when will the old man die already?!? It could also be that the fact that he now has two jonins and three not-neglible genins to back him up tipped the balance in favor of moving. While we're at it, getting rid of Naruto might well be a plus to Plot!Jiraiya, as he is otherwise a plausible rival for power, at least eventually.
Oh, by the way, having Hiruzen die as a result of enemy action creates a patriotic/panicky political environment which might be more conducive to his steamrolling potential clan opposition to his ascension. Which actually happened.
Basically, I'm asking how we know that Jiraiya is not playing Stalin to Hiruzen's Lenin.
IMO, There is a point long before this theory at which it becomes actively harmful to expend resources, mental or otherwise, on preparing contingencies for things of this nature. That's conspiracy theory level shenanigans.
...Besides, if Jiraiya is Stalin, life continues as normal in the Elemental Nations.
A few hours before the beginning of Panashe's mission…
"Gōketsu," Nara said slowly. "These are designs for some manner of static fortification. A static fortification, furthermore, of a style practiced by neither Leaf nor Mist, for very good reasons in each case."
"Yes," Hazō agreed with more confidence than he felt. "That is exactly what they are." The fort was a masterpiece if he said so himself, and the designs had—in their seventh iteration—received Keiko's stamp of approval. But none of that meant a thing if he couldn't convince the other teams to take up residence within its triangular walls instead of going out to hunt their enemies as they would ordinarily do.
Nara considered the designs some more.
"You have a seal you can mass-produce that fits the proctors' requirements," he concluded, "and you want a secure location in which to engage in said mass production."
He paused.
"No. Your sister signed off on this plan, and she would know better than to build herself a tomb as a means of protection. You have some secondary purpose in mind that justifies the construction of this monument to inefficient resource allocation."
Hazō nodded, choosing to ignore Nara's choice of words. "It's a challenge. It seems likely that somebody out there is going to hold a grudge against Leaf generally and the Gōketsu specifically, and they're going to come for us sooner or later. They might even try to kill us and make it look like an accident. This way, instead of letting them prepare an ambush against us wherever, we've putting up a nice big sign saying 'We're staying here and you're free to attack our poorly-thought-out defences whenever is most convenient for you'.
"The catch is that my team has Kagome certificates in trap arrays, battleground preparation, and the general art of securing a perimeter until the Sage of Six Paths himself would rather take the long way round. We once held off an elite assault force several times our number with nothing but traps and explosives. Unless the genin trying to kill us are experienced at dealing with defensive emplacements—which I doubt because, as you say, nobody uses them in the field anymore—they're not going to know what hit them."
"For a trap," Nara said, "it has one distinct weakness. Notably, this royal road leading straight to the entrance."
"That's for trading, which is the fort's other purpose. Some of the seals I make are going to be traded to other teams in exchange for their Night Lights. My version doesn't drain your chakra or have a defined time limit, so it's strictly superior."
Nara went still for a few seconds.
"It all finally falls into place," he said as he relaxed. "You will flood the market, so to speak, with seals of your own design until the proctors are unable to reject them, should they so desire, without upsetting the grading for the entire event. In that case," he swept his finger in a circle a few centimetres outside the edge of the drawing, "you will only want to clear the area up to here. Some cover needs to be preserved to facilitate the Ring of Death."
"Ring of Death?" Hazō repeated uncertainly.
"That is what we called an analogous effect in the Forest of Death in Leaf," Nara said as if it explained everything.
Sometimes it could be very annoying dealing with the Nara Clan.
"What analogous effect?" Hazō asked.
Nara looked at him as if re-evaluating him. Hazō reminded himself to stay patient with his possible future brother-in-law whose approval was an absolute precondition to the fort plan's acceptance.
"Teams with fewer seals for potential trading," Nara said, "will be waiting outside the fort's area of influence in order to ambush those returning from successful trades. With the only path of retreat being obstructed by your field of traps, such ambushes will have a particularly high rate of success. Conversely, the fact that the defending ninja are cornered will cause them to fight more desperately, increasing the level of injury on both sides.
"As the event proceeds, the amount of trade will increase, both due to word of mouth and due to chakra depletion from combat and the resulting motivation to obtain your superior seals. At the same time, the total number of teams will decrease, as some are robbed and incapacitated and others choose to leave the event early in order to avoid same. With the fort now the most reliable source of new seals, the area around it will increasingly fill with ambushers, who will prefer to fight single teams on their own prepared ground rather than assault the fort and fight multiple teams on somebody else's. Thus, the fort will be surrounded by a ring of death that steadily eliminates team after team with no violent action required on our part."
"Yes," Hazō agreed. "That is exactly what I was planning." He made a note not to mention the spirit of cooperation or ending cycles of hatred around Nara for a while.
"Of course," Nara said mildly, "this is all a purely intellectual exercise, since I doubt the other Leaf teams will consent to sacrifice any semblance of mobility or stealth in favour of remaining within this deathtrap for the entire event. Out of curiosity, however… how many seals would you be able to make?"
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Last day of the event, morning...
"I still think this is a preposterous idea," Hyūga Neji hissed. "I find it utterly plausible that the Mist Academy would fail to teach you basic military doctrine, but the rest of our so-called comrades have no excuse."
Noburi smiled as he watched a water clone weave through one of the twelve intertwined and ridiculously complicated safe routes Shikamaru had plotted through the trap array.
"If you were any saltier, Hyūga, we'd send you to kiss the enemy kunoichi to make them die of instant dehydration."
He waited for Hyūga to open his mouth.
"Actually, no, stupid thought," Noburi interrupted the interruption. "That would require the existence of girls willing to kiss you.
"The fact is: Hazō's fort idea has worked. We've got a regular stream of trades going on, nobody's tried to take on our badass defences, and Hazō's cranking out Party Trick seals like he's been told to create a festive atmosphere for Jiraiya and the Mizukage's wedding celebration."
"And I suppose you think the proctors will look at this insanity and decide that a pack of foreign genin who don't even understand the fundamentals of shinobi warfare are worthy of chūnin promotion purely because they've found a single rules exploit? I can see where the concept might be alien to the likes of you, Wakahisa, but a ninja does need to have some skills other than cheating. If anyone had actually listened to me..."
Noburi rolled his eyes. "Just suck it up and admit that you lost fair and square. Shikamaru got on board once we accepted all his revisions, and that won us Yamanaka and Akimichi straight away, which was already half the group. Then Akane persuaded Lee that trying out new strategies was most youthful, and Tenten joined us for reasons she obviously didn't explain, and that was a three-quarters majority. The people have spoken, and—"
"Wakahisa, I was there. Some of us have sufficient brainpower to remember an event that took place the previous day without needing to rehearse it as though it were oral tradition."
"That's good to hear. I'm sure you and your fanboys already have enough of an oral tradition—hold that thought, we've got another trade."
He turned away from a fuming Hyūga, and towards the water clone, which had navigated Route Seven with a clone's single-minded precision and now stood still with a handful of seals for trade in its right hand.
Noburi reached out, collected the bunch, and began to flick through them with a practised motion.
"Active Night Light, active Night Light, expired Night Light, expired Night Light, expired Night Light…"
Noburi's hand stopped as if of its own accord. He was so familiar with Night Lights by now that he could probably draw one in his sleep (if he wanted to be lynched by a pair of furious sealmasters in the morning). But the next seal he saw was more familiar still.
It was an explosive tag.
He was holding an explosive tag.
He was holding an armed explosive tag.
He was holding an unknown number of armed explosive tags.
Behind him, Hyūga's scream of warning came too late.
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"Explosive!"
Hazō wasn't Kagome-sensei's apprentice for nothing. By the time his brain had processed anything beyond the "ex", he was already diving for cover behind the thick log that served as his sealcrafting seat.
…
…
The expected blast didn't come. Slowly, carefully, Hazō lifted himself to peek over the top of the log.
"False alarm?" he called out tentatively as the rest of the Leaf contingent began to emerge from behind the various logs, stumps and general wooden debris that they'd carried in for this exact eventuality. All except Noburi, standing upright by the entrance with his arm extended as if giving a fist-bump to the empty air.
"False alarm nothing," Noburi said, an expression of utter exhilaration slowly fading from his face. He opened his hand, and a sodden clump of paper fell to the ground.
Nara reacted instantly. "Neji!"
"Byakugan!"
After a few seconds, Hyūga shook his head. "Nothing. The perimeter is still clear. Whoever that was, they're not pressing the attack."
"What happened?" Yamanaka demanded, brushing twigs out of her hair with an offended scowl.
"Somebody mixed a bunch of explosive tags into their trade goods," Noburi said. "I didn't exactly have a lot of options when the things could have gone off any second, so I took the lot and rammed them right into my water clone's chest. If there's one thing I've learned from two years of pranking Hazō, it's that seals and water do not get on."
He gave a roguish grin.
Hazō suddenly had a revelation regarding a number of mysterious incidents involving his sealing work, but since Noburi had quite possibly just saved all of their lives, he decided to let it go for now.
Hyūga, who must have been standing next to Noburi in order to notice the trap himself, was giving Noburi a disbelieving look.
"That was practically… inspired. Who are you and what have you done with the lackadaisical imbecile we have come to know and restrain ourselves from murdering out of political considerations?"
"Aww, Hyūga," Noburi's grin widened, "are you finally ready to stop flirting and confess your true feelings?"
Keiko cleared her throat pointedly. "If I may interrupt your ever-scintillating repartee…"
"What is it, Keiko?"
"We are not out of the woods yet," she said grimly. "Consider why our unknown assailant would launch such a vicious offensive, yet not follow through."
"Perhaps they suddenly awakened to the extreme unyouthfulness of their strategy and changed their minds?" Lee asked.
Keiko didn't dignify this with a response, much like anything else Rock Lee had said since the previous night.
"The event ends in three hours," Shikamaru explained. "Our enemies know that before long, we will have to leave the fort in order to head for the rendezvous point. This attack was intended either to kill us or to weaken us before a coming confrontation, taking advantage of the effectiveness of explosives within a confined space. If we assume that there will be a coming confrontation, then it is still waiting for us, somewhere beyond our prepared ground.
"Gōketsu's original plan envisioned using traps and fortifications to fend off whichever teams were bold enough to attack us, leaving the rest with a clear message on the inadvisability of doing so. This has not happened, perhaps due to an excessive intimidation factor, though more ominous explanations are possible. As such, the Ring of Death around us may now be filled with surviving teams waiting to relieve us of the seals we have been crafting over the course of the event. Now, it is likely that we will break through the Ring of Death, leaving all our defences behind and potentially taking injuries or expending chakra in the process, only to be set upon as we emerge."
"But why did they attack now?" Sakura asked. "The logical thing to do would be to leave it as late as possible, so we'd have minimal time to treat our injuries before we had to go."
Hazō thought about it. Sakura was right, of course. There was no point injuring somebody if you were just going to give them time to recover afterwards. By the same token, now that they were aware of the enemy's plans, they had time to plan countermeasures, which they wouldn't have had if the attack had taken place at the last minute. The only circumstance under which it was acceptable to give the enemy time to prepare was…
"They think that if they have three hours, they can set up an ambush so good that our extra recovery time won't make a difference."
"We have found ourselves quite the troublesome opponent," Nara said grimly. "The earlier we leave the fort, the less time Gōketsu has to make seals, and the more densely-populated the Ring of Death we must cross. But the later we leave, the more preparation time we allow our would-be assassins, and the greater the risk of being delayed enough to miss the event deadline.
"Let us begin planning. Every minute counts."
Noburi invokes Amateur Design on the trap for free.
Noburi (Alertness): 30 + 3 + 4= 37
Enemy (Trapbuilding): ? + ? = 31
Noburi recognises the trap before its timer runs out and it detonates.
Noburi (Taijutsu): 4 - 9 = -5
Noburi spends 1 FP to reroll.
Noburi (Taijutsu): 4 + 6 = 10
The water clone chooses not to evade and automatically takes 4 shifts of stress. It is destroyed.
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You have received 7 XP.
You have received 1 FP. Noburi receives an additional 1 FP for a team-saving act of genius.
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What do you do?
Voting ends on Saturday 3rd of February, 9 am New York Time.
Hyūga, who must have been standing next to Noburi in order to notice the trap himself, was giving Noburi a disbelieving look.
"That was practically… inspired. Who are you and what have you done with the lackadaisical imbecile we have come to know and restrain ourselves from murdering out of political considerations?"
Assuming 5 min/seal and no bed rest/interruptions? Around 420 seals made, taking into account how Hazou probably started making seals 10hr into the event (after building the fort) and the 3hr that remains.
Does anyone have any obvious reasons for not summoning a bunch of Pangolins and just riding out of here with Banshees/Banshee Slayers on, and throwing training explosives/more Banshees/flashbangs(?) ahead of us? I'm not entirely sure what even a coordinated attack by low-Chunin can do against this?
Mist's gonna take any chance they get to accuse of outright murder; the other nations will agree with Mist so long as it's costless for them to do so. So no, I'm not going soft. I'm trying to avoid the inevitable political shitstorm which the hivemind tends to hate.
Does anyone have any obvious reasons for not summoning a bunch of Pangolins and just riding out of here with Banshees/Banshee Slayers on, and throwing training explosives/more Banshees/flashbangs(?) ahead of us? I'm not entirely sure what even a coordinated attack by low-Chunin can do against this?
One of our enemies could be a enemy sealsmith, there was an unknown number of explosive seals with the clone. (Could also be just purchased ones, but who knows) so we could run into traps by enemies.
Mist's gonna take any chance they get to accuse of outright murder; the other nations will agree with Mist so long as it's costless for them to do so. So no, I'm not going soft. I'm trying to avoid the inevitable political shitstorm which the hivemind tends to hate.
