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Unclear, the fight was fast and deadly and a handful of mildly distracting sparks were not anyone's priority.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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Can we say that we had Shinji or Kazushi spend a day learning the difficulty of those seals, or would it need to be mandated via Declaration (and the associated cost of FP)?
Declaration is usually resolved for retroactive stuff. Determining the contents of a cabinet as you open it etc. Having Kon Ai retroactively use Dampeners in surgery.
It would be no problem to ask them to do difficulty determination on these seals, they have to take our orders lol.
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That's what I mean. We're retroactively getting these seals, so I ask if we can retroactively say that we know their difficulty from asking Shinji and/or Kazushi to have done a prep day to find out.
Possible answers...
- Yes, you know the difficulties. It makes sense in character, and you had ample means to find out. You don't need to spend a FP to have learned this information.
- Yes, you know the difficulties. It makes sense in character, and you had the means to find out. But you must spend a FP to Declare this, since it is happening retroactively.
- No, you do not currently know the difficulties, and you may not Declare. You must, in the present, direct Kazushi and Shinji to do the prep day on seals that you have (retroactively) had for months.
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Sick, one more question: was there any consensus on the effects of trying Elemental Mastery vs Dragons? Or was it mostly a last resort (which I assumed)?
We don't have anyone to cast it anymore. Asuma is dead, Akane is dead, Isan is dead. It's a moot question.
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Mostly a last resort so Akatsuki wouldn't cotton on to Leaf using it on Isan
But if we manage to kill them all anyways, then a rez'd Akane or Asuma using it is fine imo. Would plausibly be effective on the more physical Dragons but with the drawback that using it too close to the Great seal might harm it
Trust asuma more than most people is very different from trusting asuma.
Asuma is a ninja, so he's probably done some terrible things. But to resent someone, that is based on things you know. I haven't thought of it long enough to be confident we should resent him but some possible reasons
vaguely think i recall asuma launching last minute attacks on rock civilians before amity established
asuma didn't abolished taxation
The way I think Hazou's mind state was, he was saying that veangeance would be got. He was not thinking that doing no more veangeance (which is what Ami proposed) would be appropiate.
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So, I definitely think this is spooky, because I can see the line of thinking that led to this being "ah yes, if enemy ninja got to loot Akane's seals, it's only fair they got to loot enemy ninjas"
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Is there a countermeasure for the Goketsu seal loadout? Can we design one (on paper) while waiting for the Severe complications to dissipate?
KURENAI: grrrrr confESS YOUR SINS!!!
HAZOU: No.
If it makes you feel better, QMs always go over the QINOA doc on Saturdays, and I recently asked a couple times for this one. So it's not out of the blue
Not in the social context we're working in where it's ninja, politics, and ninja politics.
Exactly the reason I disagree with you there. Post facto justifications don't really cut it, Hazo has never been demonstrated to feel strong resentment about these. Both IC and OOC we pretty much went "oh well" about these and carried on with our life.
If I'm understanding you, Hazo thinks vengeance will happen and he didn't think that a lack of vengeance would be appropriate? This statement doesn't explain why you think Hazo doesn't believe what he said about Leaf needing vengeance.
EDIT: Also, I don't want to seem like I'm nitpicking here so to explain why I care: Our OOC views of what Hazo thinks and believes have become relevant at important moments before, most notably the Jashin worship, and we've been getting asked about our motivations and opinion of Asuma a lot lately, so I do think it's important to not nudge Hazo into having to start passing Deceit checks to survive social situations.
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Maybe you are right about social context.
How we reacted OOC at the time to what Asuma did doesn't matter. We can indeed make Hazou post-facto reconsider what Asuma did and hate him, at the moment where it would be convenient to do so. unlikely to be useful now that he's dead.
I think Hazou truly planned to push for leaf to get veangance at the time he made the statement, quite a convenient belief to have when talking to Kurenai. Later on we can remind him of Ami's plans and to not get veangeance. I do not think him saying appropiate was indicative of some important thing of his mental beliefs, although I also think he was not consciously thinking that a lack of veangeance would be not appropiate.
What happened with the jashin worship?
How we reacted OOC at the time to what Asuma did doesn't matter. We can indeed make Hazou post-facto reconsider what Asuma did and hate him, at the moment where it would be convenient to do so. unlikely to be useful now that he's dead.
I think Hazou truly planned to push for leaf to get veangance at the time he made the statement, quite a convenient belief to have when talking to Kurenai. Later on we can remind him of Ami's plans and to not get veangeance. I do not think him saying appropiate was indicative of some important thing of his mental beliefs, although I also think he was not consciously thinking that a lack of veangeance would be not appropiate.
What happened with the jashin worship?
I mostly agree with you, yeah. Overall I don't think we can actually conveniently change what Hazo believes at our whim but reminding him of a good argument someone reliable made is a good way to change people's minds in general.
This specific part I still kind of doubt unless it turns out he actually did murder Akane or something but I'm not really sold there. He was pretty good to Hazo within what politics allowed and generally trusted Hazo enough to support important but weird-sounding things like prioritizing the Great Seal. As for Jashin worship, it became enough of a topic of discussion for a poll to define Hazo's IC belief via OOC voting. I doubt casual discussion would have the same effect but it might spark a similar poll.
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Plus you get multiple people to frame it for you.
I mean how easy it is to change someone's mind if you have direct access to their head?
Plus you get multiple people to frame it for you.
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I think Hazō is underestimating Hidan here. If he were that simple then Kakuzu would know that and would have handled the situation differently. Kakuzu being this surprised by Hidan's action tells me that there was something more, something not quite legible from the outside. In addition Hidan only murdered the Hokage after the jōnin aura battle he almost lost. That might have been a fear response, but either way it wasn't something that should have been easy to predict by whoever framed Asuma.
I still think that either Asuma had Akane killed or that Jashin wanted Asuma dead and marked him as "guilty" of something. Or unknown unknowns I guess, like that whoever framed Asuma has the ability to manipulate Hidan remotely somehow, without being Jashin.
Edit: Rereading, I think the interrogation could not have gone this way with most people, even just stats wise. Usually anyone with Resolve like ours would be a jōnin level ninja, meaning that Kurenai would not deem it wise to threaten them with whatever probing aura or mild genjutsu she was using there and the subject in turn would not stand for it, for might makes right reasons. Anyone usual with Hazō's resting threat level would have suffered enough under her gaze to not be able to proceed calmly and rationally. They would give in to fear and actively try to either resist or appease her somehow, or just lose concentration and clarity about their own innocence.
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I don't think so. Killing a Kage in his office with a multi-minute lead up is too risky no matter how much your latest intel tells you that you outclass all of the nation's top fighters.
Wilder conspiracy theory. Hidan wanted Kakuzu dead and trusted in Jashin that Hazō would provide. Thus the smile.
Wilder conspiracy theory. Hidan wanted Kakuzu dead and trusted in Jashin that Hazō would provide. Thus the smile.
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- They have not, though they do note that immigration into walled up towns is expected and they account for it by building the walls larger than would be necessary for the town's current population.
- Demographically, no. Seal bank clerks have noted positive testimonials from repeat customers.
Yes. However, the mechanics do not exist yet.
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped Do Seventh Path Dogs have the ability to smell people's emotions, like IRL dogs do? Would they be able to smell what Akane's emotions were (from the bloody shirt)?
I imagine that IRL dogs can't smell emotions from just blood. It probably takes a whole living human. They're probably doing stuff like sensing heart rate and breathing, in addition to smelling you.
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Am hoping that Seventh Path Dogs can do more with their sense of smell.