So.

Let's kill Sasori.
I personally think the leaking strategy has little to no chance of working. Killing him conventionally will require a plan that can guaranteed beat him plus any one Akatsuki member. In canon Deidara was his partner but it seems like they rotate partners (Hidan has been seen with several members at this point.)
 
So what I'm hearing is that Sasori may be way ahead of us no matter our notionally comparable Sealing levels. Veterancy stuff, probably. We need to kill him ASAP.

Still think "leaking" some of our carefully compromised notes and baiting him into a sealing failure is the way to go.
Do you think that the QMs included this section as a reference to Sasori? Or are you just using it as a convenient metaphor because he was being discussed?

I think reading anything about Sasori into it is uuuuh. A reach. A big one. The situations aren't particularly analogous and which one of us is Shikamaru is not clear.
 
Plot twist: Asuma decides to accidentally Kurenai and the baby to provide a pretext to EM Nuke.
Twister plot: Akatsuki has figured out EM Nukes, and creating tornadoes with it
Twisted plot: both the konoha tunnel massacre and Akane's murder were caused by Kagome, as bid by his true lord, Jashin
Twistier plot: Asuma has been Kagome in disguise for months, using the grued techniques, and he's Kurenai's baby father
Twitter post: #Samenado #notparanoidenough #dolly
 
And given that our Sealing levels have been largely achieved by cheating, not by painstakingly working on a project after project, I'd say it maps to raw resources more than to skills; and that Sasori is "more skilled" at employing his Sealing skill in some sense (veterancy bonuses potentially greatly speeding up his research).
The cool thing is we get to cheat here as well! We can just throw all of our SC on different projects and build up more and more veterancy
 
THing Comission Idea: Baby's First Paper Jutsu
  • Creates a nonelemental jutsu that allows people to crudely telekinetically control paper after touching it.
  • The higher this jutsu's level, the faster and more precisely the user can direct paper.
  • With dedicated practice, users can learn how to manipulate paper seals without damaging their ink.
  • Allows users to make their seals "home in" on their target, making the seal's effect harder to dodge proportional to this jutsu's level.
  • At high levels, allows user to quickly set up sealing arrays midcombat.
Bonus: all members of our clan make heavy use of seals and would benefit from this force multiplier.

Thoughts?
 
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THing Comission Idea: Baby's First Paper Jutsu
  • Creates a nonelemental jutsu that allows people to crudely telekinetically control paper after touching it.
  • The higher this jutsu's level, the faster and more precisely the user can direct paper.
  • Allows users to make their seals "home in" on their target, making the seal's effect harder to dodge proportional to this jutsu's level.
  • At high levels, allows user to quickly set up sealing arrays midcombat.
Bonus: all members of our clan make heavy use of seals and would benefit from this force multiplier.

Thoughts?
Nonelemental jutsu are pretty uncommon (in lotrol this is because they are straight up harder to make) so I think it's pretty likely this won't be in Reo's skill level for a while
 
THing Comission Idea: Baby's First Paper Jutsu
  • Creates a nonelemental jutsu that allows people to crudely telekinetically control paper after touching it.
  • The higher this jutsu's level, the faster and more precisely the user can direct paper.
  • With dedicated practice, users can learn how to manipulate paper seals without damaging their ink.
  • Allows users to make their seals "home in" on their target, making the seal's effect harder to dodge proportional to this jutsu's level.
  • At high levels, allows user to quickly set up sealing arrays midcombat.
Bonus: all members of our clan make heavy use of seals and would benefit from this force multiplier.

Thoughts?

I'm not sure who could TH it, given that non Elemental jutsu are harder to hack, but maybe we can ask them to modify Zephyr's Reach into something somewhat applicable?
 
Nonelemental jutsu are pretty uncommon (in lotrol this is because they are straight up harder to make) so I think it's pretty likely this won't be in Reo's skill level for a while
I'm not sure who could TH it, given that non Elemental jutsu are harder to hack, but maybe we can ask them to modify Zephyr's Reach into something somewhat applicable?
We don't really know if nonelemental techniques are substantially harder to TH than elemental ones. Actually, that seems like something Hazō could easily find out if you don't mind enlightening us @Paperclipped @eaglejarl @Velorien.

I'm hoping that it just makes it slightly harder to find a THer than can do it, instead of making it impossible short of resurrecting Hiruzen.

ROTP, I don't think modifying Zepher's Reach would work. Even if we could turn it into something applicable (which I doubt), it would still be locked behind Wind Element and wouldn't be useful for the vast majority of the Clan.
 
Living incarnation of the Will of Fire... ooh, I've got it! If we become Hokage, it's not only impossible for us to commit treason, but heresy as well!
Hokageship is too much work. When we're S-rank assets, whoever the Hokage ends up being will just bend over backwards to accommodate us and doubting them will be treason and heresy!
Seriously, who will be Hokage? When we bring back Jiraiya he'll demand we bring Hiruzen back as well, and frankly that's the kind of firepower and genius we need. But then they'll both probably have designs on bringing the other past Hokage back, too, based on both "they're S-rank monsters fully dedicated to saving the Leaf and/or world" and hero worship. Could there be a... Hokage council?
Personally, I really like red and green. One can make it more tasteful by muting the colors.
As someone who is thoroughly colour-blind, I agree!
 
Does Mari think that Asuma will censure Ritsuo, or that he will censure Ritsuo for this? Why, or why not?

Mari makes the point that Hazō committing acts of heresy and expecting to get away with it is a direct attack on the Hagoromo's power. Even if the Hagoromo didn't believe in their own religion, they're still not the unambiguous aggressors here.

As to what consequences are likely to accrue: while the Hagoromo mostly acted within their mandate as the stewards of Leaf's religious purity, the extent of their invective against Hazō may have been motivated by Ritsuo's personal distaste of Hazō. Asuma is unlikely to punish the Hagoromo for fulfilling their mandate, but he will almost certainly speak with Ritsuo privately to ensure that the Hagoromo are not letting personal feuds interfere with their duty.
 
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped Would Hazō's calligraphy benefit from having a writing surface which is any flatter, more level, or free of vibration?
Somehow this calls to mind chapter... 30... Wow, "580 chapters ago" is something we can say.
"Last time we spoke you mentioned that poor brushwork could generate vortices in the chakra flow," Hazō said. "You mentioned there was a way to repair that during infusion, but we didn't get to that part. Would you mind explaining it?"

"Sure," Kagome said. "What you have to do is—"
*puts on nerdy glasses* (they make me look nerdy and also they make me see better)
Presumably Hazō learnt long ago how to deal with minor defects and is already getting the most out of what his Calligraphy score can get him
 
Hokageship is too much work. When we're S-rank assets, whoever the Hokage ends up being will just bend over backwards to accommodate us and doubting them will be treason and heresy!
They will be too afraid to make important decisions to risk displeasure us. That's why Gaku still shoves all that paperwork on us. And our desire to have control over important decisions is why we haven't shoved all that paperwork back at him. So we'd still be doing a lot of hokage work even if no official title. Unless we can find a superGaku who knows what decisions we would make

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She also requested that our Clan Head also accompany her on that mission.
Easy solution for when the time comes. Let her have a normal Yamanaka go on the mission in return for hazou not going on the mission.
 
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They will be too afraid to make important decisions to risk displeasure us. That's why Gaku still shoves all that paperwork on us. And our desire to have control over important decisions is why we haven't shoved all that paperwork back at him. So we'd still be doing a lot of hokage work even if no official title. Unless we can find a superGaku who knows what decisions we would make
I mean, look at Tsunade. Imagine doing the same thing she does.
Wait, I only just understood that Kei is totally going to be our generation's Orochimaru, if we're Jiraiya-to-be and Noburi is the next Tsunade
 
Frankly I think Kei has a stronger and more consistent moral compass than Hazō. She chose to stop the Pangolin trade deal when he didn't, nor did Hazō have very strong feelings about Haru's actions against the Yakuza.

(All three of them have stronger moral compasses than the actual Sannin, thank the Sage.)
True, but her latest character beat was deciding to stop caring and just optimize for the greater good...
 
Well, Snowflake's last character beat, at least.
No, that was Kei:
"Is that how you intend to justify this to yourself, Kei?" Takahashi-sensei asked. "Is genocide acceptable as long as you can associate it with a loftier goal?"

Clarity began to emerge.

"No," Kei said. "Justifications only matter to the just."

Takahashi-sensei stared as he had when Kei first used the Frozen Skein to calculate the correct pattern for the dimensional manifold of the Summoning Technique in twelve minutes instead of spending the day cross-referencing diagrams. "You intend to quote Jiraiya's A Practical Guide to Depravity as your ethical foundation?"

"Every Mori and every Nara," Kei said, "is raised with the understanding that the duty may sometimes require lesser atrocities in order to prevent greater ones. Neither the kami nor the ancestors nor the Will of Fire possess the omniscience needed to stand over us in judgement and state for a fact whether a given atrocity was truly necessary. Even history cannot judge us, for it cannot see what exponential ripples a different decision would have given rise to. As none have the power to vindicate us, we do not seek justice. We seek efficiency. Shikamaru is not tormenting himself over whether Isan's destruction was a moral act. He is tormenting himself over whether he purchased enough security for the world with those five hundred lives. If he was inefficient, if the same result could have been achieved with fewer sacrifices, or he did not achieve as much security with that number of sacrifices as he could, that is a betrayal of the fallen and our own definition of sin.

"That logic leaves only one course of action open to me now. I must ensure that Isan's sacrifice is not wasted, for if Elemental Mastery proliferates now, it will mean those five hundred deaths were for nothing.

"I can never follow Akane's path. That much should have been obvious to me from the beginning. However, she also cannot follow mine. Efficiency does not demand the capacity to love; it demands a willingness to sacrifice."

"And what is it you intend to sacrifice, Kei?" the phantom of Takahashi-sensei asked as it began to fade back into oblivion.

"Were you not listening?" Kei replied. "Whatever my duty requires."
Extremely Orochimaru-ish:
"Who is Orochimaru?" Noburi asked.

"Another of the Three," Akane told him. "He was also a hero of the Third Great Ninja War, and he was famous for being a biological research and sealcrafting prodigy. But he betrayed the village—our textbooks don't say how—and now he's one of our worst missing-nin."

"Do you know what he did?" Hazō asked Jiraiya, perhaps incautiously, but aware that this was a rare opportunity to get a real answer to a question that might turn out to be important later.

"He decided it was easier not to care about people," Jiraiya said heavily. He did not elaborate.
We should maybe do something about this, possibly. Or not. Personally, I think it's fine. Kei's decisions always make sense to me.
 
Seriously, who will be Hokage? When we bring back Jiraiya he'll demand we bring Hiruzen back as well, and frankly that's the kind of firepower and genius we need. But then they'll both probably have designs on bringing the other past Hokage back, too, based on both "they're S-rank monsters fully dedicated to saving the Leaf and/or world" and hero worship. Could there be a... Hokage council?

This being a possibility is why when we open the rift Atasuki is going to immediately move to burn leaf to the ground and/or kill everyone at the rift site
 
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