Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
Damn Paper, they're really putting you to work.
I'm surprised they haven't figured out how to build roofs suited to ninja traversal yet.
Is he joking? I don't believe Hazoupilot would be this oblivious. Although it is cute that 'do some sealing research' is his default answer to problems.
Don't give Kagome any ideas.
Living incarnation of the Will of Fire... ooh, I've got it! If we become Hokage, it's not only impossible for us to commit treason, but heresy as well!
Ngl this characterization feels off for some reason. My Ino-tuition is perturbed.
That is a surprisingly interesting framing, Hazou. I like it.
This scene is unusually anime for MfD. Feels weird.
Yet again we see how Asuma is the inferior Hokage. Jiraiya would have siezed the opportunity to boast about his sexual prowess.
Gotta love Hazou's continually deteriorating mental state. He deserves a vaccation, if we ever have time for it.
Good job Hazoupilot!
Huh? Why not? I thought he did exactly that.
No, you wouldn't notice us, would you?
The relief, the ecstasy, the sheer joy of finally possessing a telescope... it can forge a powerful bond.
I hear Hazou is a popular name these days.
Hazou would be a terrible father.
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Hazou's a teenager, of course he'd be a terrible father. But with a couple more years of life experience? Some more emotional maturity and a greater-developed sense of patience? I think he'd be a good one.
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Personally, I really like red and green. One can make it more tasteful by muting the colors.
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I just thought of something. You know how some of our ninja got upset that we asked them to share their jutsu? Well, you know who didn't get upset? Kuzushi and Shinji. Our sealmasters.
We know that the Goketsu Clan doesn't tax our ninja's income the way that most clans do, and we also know that sealmasters can make bank. Like, to the point where Shinji retired from active duty just to scrawl seals for money.
Our Sealmasters looked at their paychecks, saw how much money the Clan is deliberately missing out on, laughed, and said "of course you can have my jutsu."
Bruce Wayne/Tony Stark Effect: money is the the real superpower.
We know that the Goketsu Clan doesn't tax our ninja's income the way that most clans do, and we also know that sealmasters can make bank. Like, to the point where Shinji retired from active duty just to scrawl seals for money.
Our Sealmasters looked at their paychecks, saw how much money the Clan is deliberately missing out on, laughed, and said "of course you can have my jutsu."
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So what I'm hearing is that Sasori may be way ahead of us no matter our notionally comparable Sealing levels. Veterancy stuff, probably. We need to kill him ASAP.
Still think "leaking" some of our carefully compromised notes and baiting him into a sealing failure is the way to go.
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Isn't the opposite being implied by that scene? That no matter how much experience Asuma has, being the older of the two, the young upstart is Just That Good.
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Interesting point! I suppose it depends on how you map from the metaphor. Is high Sealing equivalent to "being just that good", or equivalent to the raw resources at your disposal (the number of figures you have)? Is the amount of veterancy/reference material you have is how much resources you have, or how proficient you are at leveraging your raw theoretical insight into Sealing?
I still prefer my reading. In particular, if we read this as narrative-level foreshadowing, it's not optimistic foreshadowing. The tone is sombre; it's setting up bad-for-us outcomes. In addition, "we're finally even now" is said by Asuma; mapping onto Hazou/Sasori, it would be said by Hazou, who's "finally" at the S-rank level at something. But the one who's saying this is about to soundly lose despite finally being on the level, despite his assumption that this evens the odds...
And given that our Sealing levels have been largely achieved by cheating, not by painstakingly working on a project after project, I'd say it maps to raw resources more than to skills; and that Sasori is "more skilled" at employing his Sealing skill in some sense (veterancy bonuses potentially greatly speeding up his research).
Though, of course, this may all be "why were the curtains blue?"-level overanalysing... Except curtains being a given color is frequently symbolically significant in fiction, especially well-written fiction, and IMO the foreshadowing isn't particularly subtle here. The exchange really stands out. You're also primed to read it in this manner by Hazou pondering on his Sealing knowledge just prior to it, etc.
So.
Let's kill Sasori.
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Not really.
It is in theory possible for it to have gone worse, but in practice Kagome is not much better at OPSEC than he was before.
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Also how are we going to kill an s ranker without alerting the others anyway? That seems pretty crazy imo.
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Giving piece odds in chess (or shogi) is a resources analogy. Asuma has more pieces (so more options, more raw power), Shikamaru has more skill. Shikamaru will see more options, notice more weaknesses, have a stronger defense, and punish mistakes harder. Translating that analogy, Hazou is surely the one giving piece odds. Sasori is older, has stronger and firmer allies, exists more fully inside the universe (no YOUTHSUIT ooc insanities). Hazou's one material advantage is that he already has primordial sealing - by the analogy, he's just caught up to an equal position. Everything else Hazou has going for him is outside the context of the game: he's not going to win because of what's on the board, he's going to win because of what he himself brings to the table, player knowledge cheaty bullshit.
I also didn't think that scene was a metaphor for Hazou vs any particular opponent, but if you want to read it that way, it's grimly optimistic, not despondent.
I also didn't think that scene was a metaphor for Hazou vs any particular opponent, but if you want to read it that way, it's grimly optimistic, not despondent.
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@eaglejarl , @Velorien , @Paperclipped
The Hagoromo worsened the rumors against Hazou after Hidan left. This is another blatant violation of the Hokage's direct order to play nice with each other. Ritsuo's actions also hampered Hazou's speed in learning Mianto's Seal Chain, which ends in the Bijuu Seal.
Further, the other Clan Heads, if they weren't aware of Ritsuo's disobedience against the Hokage, are now aware of it.
Some members of the playerbase decided to wait a while, in-game, to see if Asuma takes any action against Ritsuo before approaching him about it. The reasoning was that Asuma may need time to check with his own sanity-checkers, and optimize his own plans according.
In order to try and avoid a meeting with Mari about a meeting with Asuma...
Does Mari think that Asuma will censure Ritsuo, or that he will censure Ritsuo for this? Why, or why not?
The Hagoromo worsened the rumors against Hazou after Hidan left. This is another blatant violation of the Hokage's direct order to play nice with each other. Ritsuo's actions also hampered Hazou's speed in learning Mianto's Seal Chain, which ends in the Bijuu Seal.
Further, the other Clan Heads, if they weren't aware of Ritsuo's disobedience against the Hokage, are now aware of it.
Some members of the playerbase decided to wait a while, in-game, to see if Asuma takes any action against Ritsuo before approaching him about it. The reasoning was that Asuma may need time to check with his own sanity-checkers, and optimize his own plans according.
In order to try and avoid a meeting with Mari about a meeting with Asuma...
Does Mari think that Asuma will censure Ritsuo, or that he will censure Ritsuo for this? Why, or why not?
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Press F to pay respect to kagome's
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Kagome is my favourite character. Just saying.
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"We're even now" (he doesn't say 'finally' btw) in terms of material, which is raw resources/raw options - Shikamaru having suddenly equalized after starting the game with fewer pieces - "so I have a 50% chance to win, right?" But of course he doesn't, because if you have the same amount of material, the better player has much better odds to win. "Lower, Asuma-sensei. Much, much lower."
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Awww... No SSA bonus to PS
I really hoped that our Essie tricks would stack.
I feel like we're being prompted to figure something out, but I have no idea what.
"research how the sealing scrolls work" maybe?
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I wonder how useful our ninja clanmembers can be if we invest time into them. They don't have bloodlines, political power, or martial might that most of relationships that have been useful have had.
Of our previous relationship in that category. Akane had fire element for EM nuke and some social skills of a flavor that Mari lacked. Haru the spymaster. Atomu the jutsu hacker. The academy kids have been useless
Of our previous relationship in that category. Akane had fire element for EM nuke and some social skills of a flavor that Mari lacked. Haru the spymaster. Atomu the jutsu hacker. The academy kids have been useless
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Plot twist: Asuma decides to accidentally Kurenai and the baby to provide a pretext to EM Nuke.
