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*prepares the folder of "if Gaku turns out to be a traitor" meme*
I am prepared. As I always am."
na na na na na na na na GAKU
Well, you get the gick of it. Gick is bick, and all that. Don't go gickering about details. We have work to do and I'm already gick of it.
"Area of expertise, sir?"
Gaku never fails to crack me up. Just that "sir" over and over again is so funny to me
Snowflake is Kei without the depression and most of the inappropriately-directed rage issues.
most? :D
Are you suggesting that they might turn on us if they decide that the Gōketsu were a threat to Leaf, or to the Nara, or to whatever little brainworm Shikamaru woke up with that day?"
*Kagome voice* SHIKAMARU WOKE UP WITH BRAIN WORMS? WHAT ARE YOU DOING TALKING TO HIM? THAT'S JUST A MEAT PUPPET NOW, SQUISH THE FUCKER
"Sir..." The older man hesitated, looking uncertain. "Sir, my experience with ninja clans is that their alliances tend to be fraught and may not long endure."

"An excellent point, Gaku. An excellent point. You are a perspicacious man filled with insight and worldly wisdom."
Oooooh, a taste of your own medicine! I'm giggling, thank you for this.
Gaku's eyes narrowed suspiciously.
YEAH HOW'S IT FEEL
Gaku's head came up quickly. "Lord Nara is lying, sir?"
Reporting to ANBU headquarters are you, TRAITOR
"It's a fish. Once it bites down, it doesn't let go even if you kill it. You have to break its jawbone in order to get it to let go. Which is tough, because that tends to burst the fire glands and cause a massive explosion. Point is, Shikamaru doesn't share information he doesn't have to.
This has an extremely enjoyable, vague Cave Johnson feel to it. Something about the cadence, the level of detail, and then "point is" to something unrelated on a surface level is reminiscent of the Lemon Rant. Hoping that is not a rude thing to say.
If I wanted to know what the weather was, he would check the Nara rulebook to make sure it was safe to tell me.
Now in all fairness, if the Nara rulebook says it's not safe to tell you, it probably isn't.
Gaku's tone made very clear that he knew he was being excluded from sensitive information.
Too bad, Gaku, you don't have a Mari!
Hoo boy. Granny Mayuka's gingersnaps were too tasty. They were distracting him.
Can we weaponise that?
Oh that's a good word!
Hazō twitched and pushed the thoughts away firmly.
... Is it possible to learn this power?
Heh. Not from a Naruto quest, I fear.
Thinking back on it, I realized that I forgot to ask one of the questions. I went through all the rest but somehow I skipped that one. I thought maybe there was some kind of infoeater chewing the memories out of my skull.
Wait, I remember talk of this. People who are very involved in plans, is this about Orochimaru having "already answered" the Jashin question, or is it something else and a question of the prepared list did vanish?
"Is that possible, sir?" Gaku said, his voice the very model of horrified.

Still casually slumped in his chair, feet up on his desk, ankles crossed, Hazō took a bite of his cookie and continued staring at the ceiling. "Yup," he said.
One Badass Point.
"There's a whole class of seal failures related to infoeaters. Fortunately, most seal failures involve localized physical destruction—they blow up, or melt everything within twenty feet into goo, or turn nearby people inside out. It's when you start getting into the more esoteric failures that things get bad. Infoeaters are some of the worst, at least in my opinion."
SEALING LORE MY BELOVED 💜💜💜💜💜
Then Shikamaru disclosed the following words of wisdom on this critical issue."

Hazō sat up, turning to face Gaku with erect posture, both hands laid flat on his desk and an unmoving stone-like expression on his face. He met Gaku's eyes firmly and intoned, "The existence of supernatural beings is quite troublesome."
Hahahahahaha. How did I not see this coming?
Wait no the answer is easy, it is "you brought it up with enough gravitas that you could adroitly both set up and subvert expectations." Kudos
"Gaku, are you aware that Clan Heads have the power to choose the definition of family treason, and that I might choose to place 'excessive sass' on that list at any time?"

"I apologize if anything I said caused you offense, sir. I shall report for flogging immediately upon the end of this meeting."
That's it, adding excessive sass to the list.
Mari needs the practice. Civilians are too mushy to not be afraid, and ninja who are both able and willing to take a beating are rare indeed.
"I see." The Hokage stared at him silently for long seconds. "And, of course, you have no interest in recruiting the S-rank ninja into your..."

Hazō felt his butt clench in the chair. Plot? Conspiracy? Had the Hagoromo been pouring poison into Asuma's ear again? Shitshitshit, how did he get out of this one?

"...fish sex cult?"

Hazō glowered at his political ruler until Asuma's sober facade finally broke and the man started laughing.

"That was mean, sir," Hazō said. He paused. "Also, it was a fish god sex cult."
The fish god was called Jashark, by the way. It was adorable.
Jiraiya had a phrase, 'sounds like a bad case of being a jōnin'. Every member of Akatsuki has a truly monumental case of being a jōnin."
Yeeeesssss, remember him muahahahaha
Unfortunately, as the saying goes: time and drill instructors wait for no ninja and the calendar is the only tyrant that cannot be toppled."
Meaning drill instructors can. Oh my.
"If I may ask, sir: who exactly is it that says that?"
This sentence is linguistically extremely pleasing based on very specific work done on interrogatives and identifying them which I've been studying for the last two years (and now that I don't have to and I'm sick of studying that, I can appreciate it for its own beauty without worrying about remembering every single detail about stuff I'll never use)
Oof, sorry. [X] Action Plan: Punching
 
Whoops. The former, 4FB, which Asuma recently assigned to us. Use standard protocols.
I would like to finish a seal for once without stopping in the middle so I'd rather do Directional Explosives. Literally one cycle left on them

Something like this, maybe? @Twinnstars?
  • Try making a 3D seal by using one material (diamond?) to form pathways-for-chakra inside another (corundum?); like drawing using ink on paper.
    • Consider infusing it without withdrawing chakra from the "ink"-analogue. (Maximal safety precautions!)
(Still kinda long, I guess.)
works ig, I'll cut words somewhere
 
Something like this, maybe? @Twinnstars?
  • Try making a 3D seal by using one material (diamond?) to form pathways-for-chakra inside another (corundum?); like drawing using ink on paper.
    • Consider infusing it without withdrawing chakra from the "ink"-analogue. (Maximal safety precautions!)
(Still kinda long, I guess.)
[X] Treat Your Minions Right
Word Count: 297
  • Bring Yuno on beast extermination near Leaf
    • Engage Jashinism seriously, but be authentic (e.g. Hazou's disapproval of Hidan's behavior is expected for Life priests, which Jashin knows.)
    • Apologize for lashing out about Jashinism.
      • Hazou's still getting used to the idea of working with Jashin. It's easier picturing him as an ally than something to venerate.
      • Yuno/Hazou publicly supporting Jashin is politically inconvenient to Hazou's goals (therefore inconvenient for Jashin's plans for him.) Leaf isn't ready for Jashinism yet. Hazou's still trying to persuade them to Uplift, which will likely take a few more years.
    • Hazou's been working towards Uplift since becoming missingnin. Hidan believes Jashin supports Uplift. Hidan also said conviction's the greatest virtue, which, coupled with Jashin favoring Hazou at Bakuchioka and elsewhere, indicates Hazou's on the right track representing Jashin's Birth aspect . Given that humanity is declining, Hazou thinks the Death aspect is currently overrepresented.
      • Ask for Yuno's help representing Hazou's aspect.
        • Hazou's branch will kill those who threaten innocent lives.
        • They will promote improved quality of life for as many people as possible.
        • They will encourage voluntary births - willing parents are better at raising successful children.
    • Evaluate Yuno's knowledge about entities like Jashin.
      • Jashin's symbol was present at her wedding, yet Yuno didn't seem to know Jashin. What was Isan's knowledge of the symbol?
      • Hidan said gods in certain people's heads were responsible for Jashin losing his tongue. What gods are those?
      • Jashin apparently made the Sage bleed. Were they in conflict? Why?
      • Hazou has heard the moniker 'King of Hell' many times. Given Jashin's domains, are they the same entity?
  • Attempt 3D sealing using one material (diamond?) to form chakra pathways inside another (corundum?); like putting ink on paper.
    • Consider infusing it without withdrawing chakra from "ink"-analogue. (Maximal safety precautions!)
no room for sealing yet. Probably just going to link "Continue previous Sealing" at some point (assuming the QMs are okay with that)
 
Uh oh. I don't think EJ liked this one...

Snowflake is Kei without the depression and most of the inappropriately-directed rage issues
An excellent description, Hazō, but don't let Kei or Snowflake hear it.

"Then we get to Shikamaru who just..." He broke off, trying to find the words, then gave up and shook his head. "I'm getting distracted.
Uh oh. I have a bad feeling about this.

"I thought so. Anyway, first thing was that I told Mari to watch out for Shikamaru lying."
Why is he telling Gaku about this? I had to double-check the plan, but it in fact says nothing about Gaku. This motherfucker makes no mention of the seance to his sister, for months, while he casually divulges the contents of sensitive discussions with Mari to his secretary, unprompted? I suspect mind control.

He broke off, suddenly realizing where his mouth had been taking him while his brain was freewheeling along. It's purely a guess, but I think that there's five ninja bloodlines, each of them bonded to an entity from outside reality. That was a secret that the Nara and the Mori clearly intended to protect with their lives, and Hazō had nearly spilled it. Heck, if he had continued he might have said something even less wise, like the Frozen Skein, Kei's bloodline? It's a thing that she reaches out to. It talks back, gives her ideas. I think the Nara bloodline is similar, and I think those others are the same. Hoo boy. Granny Mayuka's gingersnaps were too tasty. They were distracting him.
Okay, HOLD THE PHONE. This is incredibly suspicious. This reads exactly like when Hazō gets hit by esoteric mind-affecting phenomena, or a dumb plan that asks him to divulge sensitive information (i.e. esoteric mind-affecting phenomena). But the plan made no mention of Gaku. There is little reason for Hazō to come so close to divulging these secrets of his own accord. And Gaku would be the perfect spy, for Asuma—who we already suspect has access to some kind of mind control—or someone else. I realize this is paranoid raving, but—it is Marked for Death, after all. They are out to get us.

He and Kei exchanged some very meaningful looks, eyebrow raises, millimetric headshakes, and shrugs. Then Shikamaru disclosed the following words of wisdom on this critical issue."

Hazō sat up, turning to face Gaku with erect posture, both hands laid flat on his desk and an unmoving stone-like expression on his face. He met Gaku's eyes firmly and intoned, "The existence of supernatural beings is quite troublesome."
Thanks Shika, you're completely useless!

Wouldn't it have made more sense to speak to Lord Hokage first, in order to ensure that the meeting could happen at all?"

"In retrospect, yes.
The plan didn't explicitly specify when to ask Asuma, I think Hazō could have asked him earlier. Would there have been a better way to write the plan that avoided this problem? We could have made it more explicit but I believe QMs have also been annoyed in the past by plans with too much detail...

"That was mean, sir," Hazō said. He paused. "Also, it was a fish god sex cult."
Just wait until Hidan finds out about our divided religious loyalties.

"Heh. I'm afraid the question is somewhat moot; Hidan and Kakuzu have already left. They didn't fill me in on their itinerary."

"I thought they were staying for another couple of days?"

Asuma shrugged. "Apparently not? I've given up trying to predict those people.
Uh, I hate to ask, but EJ, did you choose for them to do this in response to not wanting to write the plan?

Every member of Akatsuki has a truly monumental case of being a jōnin.
I hope one day we can be a jōnin too...

So we get (2 + 1 - 5)•(0.7) = -1.4 XP?
Hilarious implication of the stagnancy system is that QM-fun XP is also diminished, positive or negative.

To be honest though I kind of wish the QMs just looked at the plan and said "They already left" so we could've done something else instead and avoided this situation entirely. I mean like given that the entire plan is predicated on preparing to pump Hidan for theology and then we can't do that it ends up just kind of wasting all of our time and especially the QMs'
Yeah, big agree with this. With Hidan gone, the plan is mostly pointless, EJ didn't enjoy writing this, and we didn't even get to see the meeting with Shikamaru, Kei, etc. so we don't get more information about forbidden lore or how Shika is behaving. Why not just say 'Hidan left town' and reopen voting? Unless the point of the update was to subtly hint towards Gaku's mind control...

This has an extremely enjoyable, vague Cave Johnson feel to it. Something about the cadence, the level of detail, and then "point is" to something unrelated on a surface level is reminiscent of the Lemon Rant.
Hazō truly is the Cave Johnson of Naruto. I can't wait to build our own massive underground complex of 'test chambers'.
 
If the QMs want to explicitly say that the trope of 'Hazō vents about sensitive information to Gaku' is merely a convenient literary device and we do not have to worry about him spying on us or betraying us, I'd say let them have their fun. But in the absence of that, Hazō's tendency to unnecessarily secrets to Gaku worries me.

[X][OPSEC] Need-to-know
  • Don't tell Gaku sensitive information except on a need-to-know basis
    • Hazō can vent to Noburi or someone else in the inner circle if necessary
  • Policy otherwise remains unchanged
 
Does anyone want to finish the conversation with Kagome? We still have questions to ask him that are quite relevant towards future necromancy plans.
 
[X] Treat Your Minions Right
Word Count: 297
  • Bring Yuno on beast extermination near Leaf
    • Engage Jashinism seriously, but be authentic (e.g. Hazou's disapproval of Hidan's behavior is expected for Life priests, which Jashin knows.)
    • Apologize for lashing out about Jashinism.
      • Hazou's still getting used to the idea of working with Jashin. It's easier picturing him as an ally than something to venerate.
      • Yuno/Hazou publicly supporting Jashin is politically inconvenient to Hazou's goals (therefore inconvenient for Jashin's plans for him.) Leaf isn't ready for Jashinism yet. Hazou's still trying to persuade them to Uplift, which will likely take a few more years.
    • Hazou's been working towards Uplift since becoming missingnin. Hidan believes Jashin supports Uplift. Hidan also said conviction's the greatest virtue, which, coupled with Jashin favoring Hazou at Bakuchioka and elsewhere, indicates Hazou's on the right track representing Jashin's Birth aspect . Given that humanity is declining, Hazou thinks the Death aspect is currently overrepresented.
      • Ask for Yuno's help representing Hazou's aspect.
        • Hazou's branch will kill those who threaten innocent lives.
        • They will promote improved quality of life for as many people as possible.
        • They will encourage voluntary births - willing parents are better at raising successful children.
    • Evaluate Yuno's knowledge about entities like Jashin.
      • Jashin's symbol was present at her wedding, yet Yuno didn't seem to know Jashin. What was Isan's knowledge of the symbol?
      • Hidan said gods in certain people's heads were responsible for Jashin losing his tongue. What gods are those?
      • Jashin apparently made the Sage bleed. Were they in conflict? Why?
      • Hazou has heard the moniker 'King of Hell' many times. Given Jashin's domains, are they the same entity?
  • Attempt 3D sealing using one material (diamond?) to form chakra pathways inside another (corundum?); like putting ink on paper.
    • Consider infusing it without withdrawing chakra from "ink"-analogue. (Maximal safety precautions!)
Is this supposed to cover while Hazou is recovering from Milds? Otherwise we need to do Sealing.

Also I worked it out and @Twinnstars 's plan of destructively ending ES will cause Hazou a Medium and Mild Consequence. Not something I'm interested in while we have necromancy to research. We don't have time to waste.
 
Yuno/Hazou publicly supporting Jashin is politically inconvenient to Hazou's goals (therefore inconvenient for Jashin's plans for him.) Leaf isn't ready for Jashinism yet. Hazou's still trying to persuade them to Uplift, which will likely take a few more years.
Could we be less indirect and patronizing about this. Hell, we could even be honest. Jashinism is an illegal heresy in Leaf and Asuma only tolerates Hazō's Jashinism because he thinks it is wholly insincere and just a way to manipulate Hidan and/or survive encounters with him. Or maybe Asuma isn't quite as sure, but thinks Hazō is too useful.

Also, I feel kind of iffy about not involving Noburi in this at all. She's his wife and he's our best friend and brother.

And what about Yuno wanting to approach Snowflake? That seems like something we could both encourage and manage by warning Snowflake beforehand.

Edit: @eaglejarl I feel like I have zero idea what Mari, Kei, Snowflake or Shikamaru think about Hazō actively trying to find out more about Jashin/Jashinism, which I feel was a main point of the plan. Do they approve? Disapprove but accept Hazō's agency?
 
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Have a plan that might plausibly result in all the Thinkers dogpiling and murdering us.

[x] Action Plan: No But Seriously, Give Lore
  • Under max OPSEC conditions, set up a ritual space.
    • Make the room freezing cold using seals.
    • Create a circle decorated with the Mori clan symbol.
    • Place large pieces of ice around the circle.
    • Set up diagnostic seals to measure anything spooky that might happen.
  • Meditate within the circle.
    • Touch the Out.
    • Think about pessimism, lack of agency, learned helplessness, flaws in your plans, etc.
  • If you actually succeed in making contact with the Mori Entity, back off for now. Use an Ami-like mindset as defence against the entity's influence.
    • Hyper-agency, laughter/mockery directed at the entity, optimism, etc.
    • Fire and warmth (memories of Mari's aura — Kei described it as the opposite of everything she is).
    • Ami once said that [the entity?] doesn't get to control her because it's more real than she is.
    • Absolute Resolve.
 
[x] Action Plan: No But Seriously, Give Lore

@MadScientist, maybe consider adding the Yuno scene as well? From Shrooms' plan. In case this idea doesn't work so that there's still something for Velorien to write + to ensure the plan has more popular support.
 
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[X] Treat Your Minions Right
Word Count: 297
  • Bring Yuno on beast extermination near Leaf
    • Engage Jashinism seriously, but be authentic (e.g. Hazou's disapproval of Hidan's behavior is expected for Life priests, which Jashin knows.)
    • Apologize for lashing out about Jashinism.
      • Hazou's still getting used to the idea of working with Jashin. It's easier picturing him as an ally than something to venerate.
      • Yuno/Hazou publicly supporting Jashin is politically inconvenient to Hazou's goals (therefore inconvenient for Jashin's plans for him.) Leaf isn't ready for Jashinism yet. Hazou's still trying to persuade them to Uplift, which will likely take a few more years.
    • Hazou's been working towards Uplift since becoming missingnin. Hidan believes Jashin supports Uplift. Hidan also said conviction's the greatest virtue, which, coupled with Jashin favoring Hazou at Bakuchioka and elsewhere, indicates Hazou's on the right track representing Jashin's Birth aspect . Given that humanity is declining, Hazou thinks the Death aspect is currently overrepresented.
      • Ask for Yuno's help representing Hazou's aspect.
        • Hazou's branch will kill those who threaten innocent lives.
        • They will promote improved quality of life for as many people as possible.
        • They will encourage voluntary births - willing parents are better at raising successful children.
    • Evaluate Yuno's knowledge about entities like Jashin.
      • Jashin's symbol was present at her wedding, yet Yuno didn't seem to know Jashin. What was Isan's knowledge of the symbol?
      • Hidan said gods in certain people's heads were responsible for Jashin losing his tongue. What gods are those?
      • Jashin apparently made the Sage bleed. Were they in conflict? Why?
      • Hazou has heard the moniker 'King of Hell' many times. Given Jashin's domains, are they the same entity?
  • Attempt 3D sealing using one material (diamond?) to form chakra pathways inside another (corundum?); like putting ink on paper.
    • Consider infusing it without withdrawing chakra from "ink"-analogue. (Maximal safety precautions!)
Okay your plan is exactly what I want to do outside of all of the experimenting stuff.


We really need 4fold seal of Preservation and CATEARS on the research docket, and it'd be silly to not finish directional explosives, and at that point we may as well finish rocket boots.

Those four added to your plan and you'd get my vote.
 
Sanjin-kun really just left town without even a goodbye slaughter together :,( why are all scythes such ****?!!

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Actual question: When did we meet/interview/hire Gaku?
 
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