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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
I figure the important part of this is that we're trying a lot of things. EJ isn't going to go down a literal list of materials and compare each one against the worldbuilding notes, he's going to consult the worldbuilding notes and ask if anything that works for 3D Sealing is something Hazou might have access to. Keeping it ambiguous like this also gives Hazoupilot freedom to observe basic safety precautions like how to handle potentially-toxic substances. We are taking full safety precautions, after all.
The line has a link to a breakdown of the chemical composition of granite, listing silica as by far the most common compound. I say silica with the intent of communicating my intent to EJ better, but from Hazou's perspective I'm saying to extract and purify that material that's so common in MEW granite and then see what he can do with it after that. No chemical knowledge required.
I, uh, dunno. There's a line about inspecting other gems to try and recreate them, but singling out 'compress carbon into diamond' seems pretty obvious as an intent-marker to me. It's less that Hazou needs to know this specific chemistry fact and more that I'm promoting it specifically to EJ's attention from the set of tests-he's-already-doing in his experiments on gemstones.
Dunno, we made the telescopes with quartz so it's not like we're lacking access to transparent substances. Even if we need to buy some glass, the cost is trivial. Honestly, this line is less an experiment and more "while you're fiddling around with ES, have the idea of ES-crafted window panes". I don't forsee any troublesome snags in the execution.
Even though I disagreed with your suggestions here, thank you for making them! I'm glad you took a critical eye to my plan and looked for ways it might go wrong under particular circumstances.
Everything you said is reasonable. Thank you for your work on the plan and this in depth breakdown. Hope not being verbose did not come across as terse.
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- USA
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- He/Him
Many of the players have a theory that Earthshaping will unlock 3D sealing and that will be instrumental in opening the portal. No comment on whether this theory is accurate.
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- florida
Kagome laid out what we needed in plain english right? Naruto's help. Which were not doing any planning on.
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- Europe
[X] Action Plan: EagleJarl's Earthshaping Edventure! Now with Cannai!
I have nothing against the plan. But maybe something can be added that Hazou is telling Mari that he is not undergoing another "breakdown" like in Iron or with the "Pressure Hiashi" plan?
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- Europe
I want us to show some self awareness and not just walk off doing "science", he can admit that he isn't handling it very well, like he is supposed to do with Cannai.
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- Raleigh, NC
[X] Action Plan: EagleJarl's Earthshaping Edventure! Now with Cannai!
Morals are a luxury because a system has to be maintained to prop them up, which in most cases is extra work, compared to murder.
It might be possible to eventually convert the Hagoromo clan into worthwhile allies. How much time are prepared to sink into that, while preparing for betrayal? How much time does that leave for actually getting important stuff done? How many of our people are we prepared to see die to the failures of this military dictatorship until that happens?
How much faster would we get to a better society without having to work closely with saboteurs, how many lives could have been spared if we got there earlier, and at what exchange rate are we comparing the lives of innocents against the lives of bad faith actors?
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- Raleigh, NC
@Inferno Vulpix
We've been doing unfair comparisons because we've been comparing to modern steel.
The very best Japanese swords had somewhat comparable quality, but it took ridiculous effort and skill and was only done for masterwork blades.
Most everyone else had to make do with steel with wildly inconsistent carbon content. In practice this made the steel pretty brittle and prone to fracture.
We could get pretty darn significant quality improvement simply by controlling the carbon percentage and making it uniformly distributed in the metal. It would turn stuff like cast iron into modern grade steel.
From an experimental perspective, this would be Hazo comparing different qualities of steel/iron and trying to turn the low quality stuff into the highest quality stuff.
You could get things cast (typically easy to produce high carbon iron) and then purify it instead of having to forge it.
Maybe he could discover ductile iron too! Ductile iron - Wikipedia
Easy to produce, still easy to cast and probably as good as most ancient steel in many metrics.
We've been doing unfair comparisons because we've been comparing to modern steel.
The very best Japanese swords had somewhat comparable quality, but it took ridiculous effort and skill and was only done for masterwork blades.
Most everyone else had to make do with steel with wildly inconsistent carbon content. In practice this made the steel pretty brittle and prone to fracture.
We could get pretty darn significant quality improvement simply by controlling the carbon percentage and making it uniformly distributed in the metal. It would turn stuff like cast iron into modern grade steel.
From an experimental perspective, this would be Hazo comparing different qualities of steel/iron and trying to turn the low quality stuff into the highest quality stuff.
You could get things cast (typically easy to produce high carbon iron) and then purify it instead of having to forge it.
Maybe he could discover ductile iron too! Ductile iron - Wikipedia
Easy to produce, still easy to cast and probably as good as most ancient steel in many metrics.
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- Pacific standard
Oh thank Jashin
my impression was that we might be pretty close to a breakthrough on the Great Seal, and are prioritizing if first. ES 50 might give us 3D sealing, the clan bosses are gathering, Oro is working out 3D sealing theory. seems like things are finally coming together.
I would like to get the ball rolling on Necromancy tasks happening in the background. Kagome is already working on the Opening seal. I'd like to invite Sasori to help with the Great Seal(figuring out a distraction for him is our job), and get Noburi started on figuring out how to open Naruto's Tenketsu to power the portal.
I'd like to recruit Naruto last, minimize the amount of time he has to change his mind and rat us out to Asuma. we could work on prepping him for recruitment(discussing Minato's poetry), or wait on Kei to recruit Shikamaru (as Asuma's second in command, he can probably get us whatever backup we need)
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[X] Action Plan: EagleJarl's Earthshaping Edventure! Now with Cannai!
@_The_Bomb I'd really like to get the spice-scent-gathering started, and to point out the timelines/tower leak to Asuma, would you consider adding them? this plan otherwise looks perfect.
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- United States
In that case, checking out the chips that fell off the Great Seal would be quite interesting.
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- United States
Spice-scent-gathering I think is already ongoing but I'll definitely add something to the offscreen section for it.
As for the timeline and Tower leak…. I absolutely agree with you, but that's not something we can thrown in offscreen. Also, I'm not comfortable adding something like that without the thread having time to weigh in on it. You and I may agree, but the others might not. Don't worry, we're meeting with Asuma "tomorrow" in universe to discuss the Hagoromo situation and can/should bring it up then. IFF the other players want to, that is.
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- floating away
[X] Action Plan: EagleJarl's Earthshaping Edventure! Now with Cannai!
I really really think this is a lead we should explore.
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
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- B.C.
[X] Action Plan: Building a Better World
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- Liverpool
[X] Action Plan: Building a Better World
[X] Action Plan: EagleJarl's Earthshaping Edventure! Now with Cannai!
[X] Action Plan: EagleJarl's Earthshaping Edventure! Now with Cannai!
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- United States
Actually…..
I think we should let Noburi make a quick detour.
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