Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
Cariyaga
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A lot more than Nobs, without support. But Noburi can use other people's chakra while feeding it in, potentially.
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It depends on how it works. Is it intrinsically linked somehow and will head the direction of the target even if they are out of range, eventually running out of steam? Or does it somehow permeate an area with chakra and home in on a match?
The best time to start a second koi pond was 6 months ago. The second best time is now.
We should start brainstorming Seals That Would Scare the Normies to research. So far, I've been trying to constrain my research suggestions to "things that don't make the world look different if good sealmasters can do them", but with the added constraint to sealmaster action that they don't show off anything that breaks the setting comes an equally large expansion of research-concept-space for scary things that they wouldn't show off.
Hm, its not so much "scare the normies", but maybe we could find a way to cut Leaf away from the rest of the world into a pocket spatial dimension? Since apparently that's what the Rift is kinda sorta doing, there is no reason we couldn't try to purposefully replicate it, so that we have an emergency measure if things ever look dire.
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He can't drain fast enough to be a replacement Naruto. It's limited to 2x VD level/round, currently 100 cp, so he could use 2100 cp in one round
Cariyaga
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Not without some kind of buffer... which, admittedly, might require better minato seals than we have.
Not sure what you mean by buffer here
Cariyaga
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Ah, sorry, more meant a capacitor. Some way to store chakra outside of Noburi prior to use, that can interface with the aforementioned seal. It can be lossy, we just need to be able to supercharge it.
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Dangling threads I remember:
- Mareo's recruitment into Leaf. Have we asked Asuma what that would look like?
- The Snake ambassador to the Arachnid territory. Do we have any way of learning when he arrives? Also, how much do we warn our wife about Orochimaru?
- What happened to our storage seal banking system after the mass failure? Has it been rebuilt or abandoned?
- Interact more with Leaf clans.
- Follow up on the new inhabitants of our old estate.
- I have lost track of all the non-sealing science projects of the Gōketsu Estate. I only remember two.
- There was aqueduct and sewer stuff, though I don't know if aqueducts are needed in our new estate.
- One of our chuunin was trying to learn fingerless seals. Is that ongoing or a dead end?
They are at least competent enough that Hazō felt comfortable in letting them train Harumitsu in his absence. And even if they are considerably worse, at least one or two of them have proven not to be stupid, as proven by surviving their professions long enough to become as old as their described to be. They are bound to have some insight into at least Leaf sealing culture and may introduce us to assumptions and safeguards they follow that they don't share with the non-sealing ninja. And showing interest in them and taking the appearance of being open to at least shallow sharing should make them interested. Even if they can't provide anything sealing related, they are still clan ninja with probably some decent pull in their decimated clans, due to age if nothing else.
If Ami's assessment of Akatsuki is correct then associating with her is rational, provided she hasn't already betrayed everyone to Akatsuki and is being a double agent for them. And the "she is Kei's sister" point stands. Threatening lives is not okay in the slightest, but it was also stupid and I don't expect a repeat.
This does sound like something Hazou might be able to do. I wonder if Hazou could study Noburi's barrel seals and replicate the effect with Minoto's seals. Letting Nobs treat the construct like a Wakahisa barrel. That would be absurd
There is now a Seals That Scare the Normies thread in discord.
Sure, they're competent for storage seals and explosives, and presumably not much else. I take your point about sealing culture of Leaf and it's probably a decent enough use of a couple hours. However, I don't expect to learn much.
I don't expect her to threaten no, that would be stupid. I expect her to betray us at some point. Not unto death, but in a way that cripples Hazou's power, so that Kei won't be upset with her for Hazou's death, but that makes us unable to accomplish Uplift.
I don't disagree that cooperating with her now is the correct thing to do. I do think that giving her FOOM would be a mistake of gargantuan proportions.
FOOM is not some amazing magic trick that can make any character into a god. Its literally just a training regime that makes progress faster long term at expense of short term power, and it doesn't even do it all that amazingly better than just regular SC training. It is merely an optimization of Shadow Clone, and I find it quite baffling that Ami would not stumble across the line of thought on her own were she to experiment around with the jutsu - which she plans on doing once she learns it. If for no more reasons than the obvious "wait, but what if I make each of my clones train a different thing and learn them all in a fraction of the time it'd have otherwise taken me, won't that be an efficient use of my time?"
Further, FOOM is flat out not very useful to Ami to begin with. You need a capstone Resolve to really use it, and pushing that so high would take Ami stupendous amounts of time since she's a proper jounin. Her benefits would be much lower than those of team Uplift that started FOOM at chuunin, to the point they might frankly not even be worth pursuing. Lastly, most of her power comes from her planning and social ability, rather than personal power as such, so pursuing FOOM is further less alluring to her than to say Akane. She would continue raising socials anyway in all likelihood (she wants SC so that she can pursue multiple objectives of social nature at once, in the first place), which combined with the now capstone Resolve would result in her combat stats most likely... not being higher than they would have been without FOOM. Certainly not to the point where she is stronger than an Essie on a relevant timeline, let alone a Dragon and we killed those.
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Cariyaga
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Also, FOOM requires Ami be in Leaf, be in a Wakahisa's (likely Noburi's, for OPSEC reasons, and therefore Hazou's) good graces, and requires her stay in Leaf for extended periods of time.
...Also, it means that versions of her without the Frozen Skein will be created, which will be exciting.
...Also, it means that versions of her without the Frozen Skein will be created, which will be exciting.
She will also have memories of herself without said bloodline, being able to even momentarily escape the clutches of which will probably result in emotional growth in a good direction due to said bloodline's nature being quite... peculiar.
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SC!AMI: AMI IS PLANNING T- *pop*
AMI: Huh.
HAZOU ET AL: Huh.
AMI: Welp, that was a waste of time.
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We should really start discussing and deciding what our mission goals will be regarding the afterlife. Convincing Naruto to provide the chakra requires that we either definitely save Jiraiya or that we lie to and betray Naruto. We also cannot do any other treason in his presence. Then there's also the fact that we might be able to rope in Tsunade. Her profession and passion makes it seem like she values life a lot and, again, she probably also wants Jiraiya back in her life, but I don't know how she feels about messing with the afterlife otherwise.
Also, since we've been discussing treason lately
Emphasis mine. Arguably this is permission to do what we do as long as we genuinely think it saves the world and won't outright destroy Leaf or its people. We should keep that letter with us at all times once we properly embark on the afterlife mission.
Also, since we've been discussing treason lately
Emphasis mine. Arguably this is permission to do what we do as long as we genuinely think it saves the world and won't outright destroy Leaf or its people. We should keep that letter with us at all times once we properly embark on the afterlife mission.
Oh I'm definitely curious how her training and/or mental breakthrough that allows her to circumvent her Bloodline's limit on initiative and creativity clashes with the complete absence of said limit.
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Is this accepted as happening right before leaving for the Conclave? If not, Kei should still get the XP
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WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWell.
Fuck.
Strong post to follow
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I just noticed that Hazō has more Yamanaka XP than he needs for the next level of Resolve. Is there a reason for that or did we just forget to put spending that in a training plan?
@faflec The link to the Gōketsu Haru sheet seems to not work anymore.
Edit: I looked up how the character sheet keeps track of XP for the first time. I have two questions:
1.) Pangolin Conditioning seems to only apply to XP earned IC while the Yamanaka technique seems to apply to all XP earned. Is there a reason for this difference?
2.) There's a few rare times where OOC XP does give the Pangolin Conditioning bonus. Are those mistakes or are there usually specific reasons for this? The first time was #165423.
@faflec The link to the Gōketsu Haru sheet seems to not work anymore.
Edit: I looked up how the character sheet keeps track of XP for the first time. I have two questions:
1.) Pangolin Conditioning seems to only apply to XP earned IC while the Yamanaka technique seems to apply to all XP earned. Is there a reason for this difference?
2.) There's a few rare times where OOC XP does give the Pangolin Conditioning bonus. Are those mistakes or are there usually specific reasons for this? The first time was #165423.
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