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So yeah, jonin. I think having Kei summon jonin Summons is the way to go.
Alas she is only at half CP apparently. Think we're gonna need to go Sealing full blast on this one, and don't let any of em escape or we'll be seeing more patrols
 
And just to round off one of the possibilities, we pretty much have to kill these guys, even if we find an opportunity to escape. They've guessed that we're from Leaf, and even if their logic is shaky it's still the kind of thing that could cause problems for Leaf down the line. We have specific orders to make sure that doesn't happen, which means these ninja need to die.
 
I understand the frustation, i understand the reaction, but this, right now, is not helping anyone nor is productive.
Can we focus on how to survive two possible Jounin alpha strike, instead of debating what ifs?
Yes, yes we can.
Summoning is a quick action and they know we are the summoners, what they don't know is that we can afford to expend a lot of chakra, so Hazõ should summon a combat summon imediately and quickly try to block the incoming jounin. Aside from that the "leaf came to finish the job implies that these are these are the remnants of the squirel summoner band so capturing one of them alive and let Kei and yuno having their way with them (the TI way) to get the location of the scroll.
Outside of that do the normal hard combat MO i guess, full seal compliment.


PS: and yeah, no escapees.
 
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If we're done with the arguments, does anyone have any murder tactics they'd like to throw out there? Personally, I'm in favour of the ever-enjoyable "tanking your own explosives" as a way to surprise and kill the jonin.

I half expect a TPK, tbh, because "2 jonin + team" is way stronger than "3 chunin and 1 special jonin with a pre-cast chunin SC", even if we do have two summoners. Unless anyone has jonin-level summons they can use, we may just be unavoidably dead here.
 
I do not believe there's 2 jounin here. Maybe one of them is a special jounin, its simplily makes no simulationist. sense why we have 2 jounin.
I would wager that the leader guy is special jounin at best. And we have a good chunin as his second and early chunin to genin to support.

Said that we can deploy 2 jounin tier summons to the camp and how summons work it should be the fastest combat capable we can get.

The objective would be to capture the second in command and kill the rest. Then we grill the ninja for information, between Kei panshee and yuno we have a good chace to pell a chunin mind like a onion.
 
And just to round off one of the possibilities, we pretty much have to kill these guys, even if we find an opportunity to escape. They've guessed that we're from Leaf, and even if their logic is shaky it's still the kind of thing that could cause problems for Leaf down the line. We have specific orders to make sure that doesn't happen, which means these ninja need to die.

We're in the middle of nowhere and they accused us of being Leaf ninja because we have two summoning scrolls.

Unless we let a lot of stuff that can easily be traced to us lying around the only people that will care are they themselve.


I do not believe there's 2 jounin here. Maybe one of them is a special jounin, its simplily makes no simulationist. sense why we have 2 jounin.

They did confront us very directly, so they aren't going to be weak.

They only called for help:
"Fire Element: Heavens-Licking Pyre Technique!"

His left hand rose in a curving movement, as if picking something up from the empty air, and a tongue of flame exploded out of the earth at his feet, lashing out to pierce the sky far above.

once they detected the summoning scrolls.
 
They did confront us very directly, so they aren't going to be weak.

They only called for help:

once they detected the summoning scrolls.
For this i gona point out to the fact they are the impression that Hazõ by being the expedition leader he was the stronger, meaning they likely made a mistake on that front.
But good thing you pointed out the flare skill, in this case is will advocate to rampaging pagolins to make it look like a charka beast work. And yeah this mission is probably a bust now.
 
To reiterate again from discord: Kei is about at half CP since she summons Snowflake every day. Being generous, she overcharges 5% with Noburi first and then summons Snowflake. She probably can't Summon either of her jonin right now.
 
Can't she displel snowflake? And use the chakra?
If she has 300 chakra, overcharged 5%, then summoned a single snowflake, she'd have 70 chakra and Snowflake would have 70 chakra. Recharging to half her chakra, she'd have 150. Dispelling Snow (and that's assuming she didn't use any during the chase or anything) she would have at most 220 CP to use for Summoning. She couldn't Summon Pantomaimu without having to take a consequence. She could summon Pankurashun, but would be pretty low on chakra herself.
 
If we're done with the arguments, does anyone have any murder tactics they'd like to throw out there? Personally, I'm in favour of the ever-enjoyable "tanking your own explosives" as a way to surprise and kill the jonin.
You can pass along tags. It may be prudent for everyone to activate their MARS kits and pass the tags to Akane and Yuno, and focus on dodging as their action. That way Yuno/Akane can either inflict major consequences or kill the stronger guys outright, at which point the fight is in our favor.

We can also use Skywalkers for ???Mechanical Benefit of Some Kind??? which I doubt these guys are accustomed to
 
If she has 300 chakra, overcharged 5%, then summoned a single snowflake, she'd have 70 chakra and Snowflake would have 70 chakra. Recharging to half her chakra, she'd have 150. Dispelling Snow (and that's assuming she didn't use any during the chase or anything) she would have at most 220 CP to use for Summoning. She couldn't Summon Pantomaimu without having to take a consequence. She could summon Pankurashun, but would be pretty low on chakra herself.
Then it comes down to Hazõ choice of does he summon something or use his quick actions to use a MARS package to support other people like akane and yuno.
 
???Mechanical Benefit of Some Kind???

Akane (Taijutsu): 54 + 12 (PKH) + 2 (Ghost Scales) + 5 (Skywalker) + 6 (Banshee) + 3 (Narrow-angle Blast Rings) + 9 (Flame Aura tags) - 1 (PCJ) + 6 (tag Mild) + 6 (Invoke "YOUTHFUL Taijutsu Star") + 6 (Invoke "Youth is All You Need") - 3 (dice) = 105

Hazou's theoretical Rocket Boots would give a higher Bonus:

+(Creator's Aspect Bonus for Sealing at time of creation) on Athletics, Taijutsu, or Melee Weapons.

Why do we suck so much. :V
 
Hazou's theoretical Rocket Boots would give a higher Bonus:



Why do we suck so much. :V
Oh. Apparently those rules haven't been updated since the rules changed from Augjev to FtD, hence why they reference TacMov, which no longer exists.


Skywalkers grant you the following bonuses:
+20 dice to TacMov for disengaging, +5 for closing distance - does not apply to initiative!
+15 dice to Stealth if using them at ground level
We'll need to redo them.
This was said more recently. I think Paper just included them in the fight because there should be some kind of bonus, but it isn't technically official yet. Skywalkers are also reusuable whereas Rocket Boots are only for one round
 
aight i suppose lets get the plans started

[X] For the Glory of Jashin!
Word Count: ~290
  • Battle
    • General
      • The enemy knows we're Leaf. Don't let any escape, and Seal up any bodies afterward.
      • Activate MARS buffs immediately.
      • Yuno/Akane can counterattack off-turn if Kei/Snowflake/Hazou Substitutes with them from melee. Use if helpful.
      • If passing tags could prevent injury, do so.
    • Hazou
      • Exchange 20 XP for 2 FP.
      • The enemy has pegged him as the main threat, play into that as appropriate. Focus on evasion/defense while the heat is on him (Seals, MEW, etc.)
      • Using buffs from MARS, pass tags to Yuno/Akane unless needed for evasion
      • Assist with fighting or supporting if/when senior ninja stop focusing on him
      • If Hazou thinks it would be worth Summoning Cantelope, do so.
    • Yuno
      • Kill commander first, second in command second.
      • Other party members support her as necessary, with seals, maneuvers, jutsu, etc.
    • Akane
      • Exchange 20 XP for 2 FP.
      • Prioritize Yuno's targets.
        • Either attack or focus on supporting Yuno (such as by passing along Flame Aura tags), where appropriate.
    • Kei
      • Pass tags to Yuno (or Akane where appropriate), unless needed for evasion.
      • Pick off enemy support.
      • Don't Summon unless Snowflake is popped.
    • Snowflake
      • Pass tags to Yuno (or Akane where appropriate).
      • Pick off enemy support.
      • Maintain Supplemental to substitute with an ally in danger of taking a serious hit.
  • Aftermath
    • Treat any wounds as necessary
    • Ask others: should we start forest fire to cover tracks, or Summon a big pangolin to fuck up the battleground, make it look like chakra beasts attacked?
      • Leave after Summoning. If pangolin notices more ninja approaching, burrow down.
    • Skywalk to avoid leaving a trail.
      • Bring captive survivors for interrogation
        • Check in with Leaf as soon as possible.
    • Ruminate on the thrill of battle and if any Jashin-related feelings seem evident.
 
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I wonder how many ninja-born babies are being taken care of by civilian relatives because their parent died in the war?
I think clans just have communal parenting by default. Although what happens to children of dead clanless ninja? I imagine when their parents are alive and away on mission their civilian relatives take care of them. would make sense if that continue when they die, with the tower paying a subsidy to the civilian relatives so the ninja orphan isn't raised in poverty
 
Hazou compared the leader in age to Shikigami, and we all know how the ninja demographics are, while the other woman has grey hair, and again, ninja demographics. I don't like those odds.
It's worth noting that those demographics are for the EN. It doesn't seem like the East randomly get themselves killed in pointless wars nearly as often, plausibly less conflict/stagnation means that their strongest fighters are weaker on average like with Isan. Isan, from what I remember, had far more chuunin on average and fewer (of what we would consider) jonin on average, since they weren't getting killed young but had nothing pushing them past their limits either

OTOH the eastern clans still seem to fight each other, unlike Isan who wasn't really fighting anyone besides chakra beasts. Still, it makes it dodgy to use the same demographics numbers here. Then again, it was always an approximation anyways so it's probably fine
 
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These people met two summoners of unknown capabilities and chose to fight instead of a non-violent option. That does not bode well for what it says about their combat prowess.
Also they figured out we are Leaf!
 
Low spoons. Maybe sonething about using armor jutsu, or perhaps substituting stronger party members in for weaker?

[X] For the Glory of Jashin!
 
These people met two summoners of unknown capabilities and chose to fight instead of a non-violent option. That does not bode well for what it says about their combat prowess.
probably hoping to kill us before we get a chance to use said scrolls, our group still looks fairly young so it's good odds we're weaker than our summons. In that case, giving us a chance to summon instead of instantly attacking would be a mistake on their part
 
Low spoons. Maybe sonething about using armor jutsu, or perhaps substituting stronger party members in for weaker?
They should all know how to use their buffs effectively/already have PCJ up, as for the latter suggestion I did include that for Snowflake but it could probably be expanded to anyone who ends up in melee range, switching with Akane or preferably Yuno.

There was a joke battle strat I saw a while back, where everyone exclusively trains up Substitution and Athletics, enters melee range, and then substitutes with Jiraiya so he can counterattack and win the exchange, and just rinse and repeat that for the entire enemy's turn, Jiraiya wouldn't even need to actually use his turn. Cheating the action economy lmfao

(Of course that isn't entirely practical due to ranged options existing among other things but it's still funny)
 
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