Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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- USA
As before, you still cannot have column overhangs (e.g. 4x 60s, 1x 50, ...). Once your pyramid is valid, you must keep it valid. Until then, all intermediary changes are allowed.
Very alive, it just means that you'll need to get awesome jutsu and stunts more than raw stats.
Note that SSA is also massively more valuable now.
Eisenhelm
gran dutch of douchery
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- Colombia
1) they historically have an standing alience whit the pangolins
2) pangolins are a clan that specialyzes in the deployment of tunnelers and improvised ordinanse made of rock, toads are a clan that specializes in jutsu. now please tell me why wouldn't it be considered bad to give them acces to instant colossal walls made of rock to figth againts a clan that specializes in fast and constant movility.
Canai would certainly think so.
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Noumero
Omit Needless Words
This is a tempting interpretation, but... Honestly, after Shikaku and Zabuza and Shikamaru and Orochimaru and Hagoromo and Itachi and a few meetings with Ami herself, I've updated pretty hard towards "no, despite how this looks, it isn't a clever well-calculated scheme, the surface reading is correct". This type of suspicion has a very bad track record of turning out correct.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
You ever consider that we might have a few TYS points as players too?
Copying over my comment from discord:
I'm starting to lean more towards "this is fake, or at least manipulative in sincerity".
- The dropping of the word "soup" multiple times.
- The perfectly timed emotional beats that you don't really get in a natural conversation unless you aim for them.
- The whole "making it feel like she just did something important, intimate, and meaningful, but with zero explicit examples of how things will be different from now on" thing.
In short: Ami changing for the better? Words are cheap, show me sustained action in that direction, and then we'll talk.
- Location
- The Void
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- She/Her
- Location
- Yes.
Alright, cool. So it sounds like we can't break the pyramid further, but we aren't required to fix the pyramid (we just can't add a stack until the pyramid is fixed). Hmm....
Akane's pyramid is easily fixed (level Athletics, Alertness, or Shadow Clone to 50), though we should probably get Resolve 68 before that since we aren't required to beeline to pyramid fixing, and Resolve 69 after that since her training protocol would max at Resolve 69 (since she gets +XP in multiples of 3). After this point we would have a fixed pyramid and maxed Resolve for FOOMing; after this point we would have to go back down and stack bottom levels before we get the next Resolve capstone. I think the ideal plan would be something like:
Resolve 68
Shadow Clone 50
Resolve 69
*Deceit 10
*Pantokrator's Hammer 20
*Elemental Mastery 30
*Chakra Reserves 40
*Alertness 50
*Taijutsu 60
*Resolve 70
*getting into speculation territory and these guys can be replaced with anything else at that skill level, but I think this should be about right.Kei's pyramid is much more annoying since she's in this in-between state, with a [40-49] stack holding the pyramid up. She can still do Resolve training which I think should be the immediate priority, but after that...Hm.
Resolve 69
*Pantokrator's Hammer 20
*Substitution 30
*Chakra Reserves 40
*Ranged Weapons 50
*again, substitute with anything at that level.
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I don't think that Ami knows how to do anything in a manner that isn't at least a little performative. I legitimately don't think she knows the language.
I think that it's totally plausible that her internal landscape is such that she genuinely regrets what she did for the reasons stated. I agree that we should be cautious but I think that what she did here was fairly meaningful contingent on her following through.
Wasn't invisibility one of the 3 impossible jutsu? along flight and something else. we should research this.
anyone remember if we ever told ami yay or nay on this?
- Location
- Texas
It will almost never be worth leveling SC to 50, it's better off left as a foundational 40.
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- Yes.
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
Ami was trained by Mari, so... that tracks. I believe her.
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- He/Him
I thought the chapter was very cute. Ami's reply seemed about as genuine as she's capable of. Doesn't really change my opinion on her any, as she knows and we know that it's hard to be sure that what she says is genuine so we're doing the best any of us can manage.
Still enjoy reading her as a character personally, good rival 😈
Still enjoy reading her as a character personally, good rival 😈
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- The state of Paranoia
It occurs to me that we could probably burn an Ami favor to get a telescope, if we ever get another favor from her.
Fully agreed. We should have Mari/Gaku start figuring out how to make as many trade deals as possible like the one we have with the Wakahisa. We might even be able to get some shiny buffs out of it as well.
The more trade deals we make, the more we help AMITY.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
For the sake of FOOM. On the other hand, longer duration shadow clones are *really* useful on missions.
e: For instance, being able to have one up with you all day would do a LOT for on-the-road survivability.
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- Location
- Liverpool
Also, they're much more Chakra efficient. Until the Koi are going, we're buying Chakra like mad, which is a big OPSEC risk. I'm not sure I think Shadow Clone 50 is the best one, but I do think it has value.
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
SC 40 is more chakra-efficient, since we can do 3 training blocks per clone instead of 1. SC 50 only helps FOOM by giving +3 to the reintegration roll, which is vastly less efficient than raising Resolve.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
Still more efficient than leveling another jutsu to 50, though.
- Location
- Texas
More XP efficient, sure, but you're basically throwing away XP to prop up higher skills. Long term, you're better off leveling something that actually benefits from being at higher ABs.
Eisenhelm
gran dutch of douchery
- Location
- Colombia
i am sold on this, if anyone has the capability of nothing a discrepancy in lines of though is amy, her apology was messured and very much staged even if it was genuine, i think we should at least prettend this takes longer than a second to think about for Hazou-pilot. let him mull it over as it is a genuine difficult discution to have.
i am inclining to Let hazou pilot say what he wants without compromising on anything. just to trhow a wrench in her plans.
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