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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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[x] Action Plan : Lore Update
  • Pangolin lore would be cool, as in the stories/history they tell each other and would share with Keiko.

Also, watching SGDQ and it occurs to me that Hazou is literally TasBOT.

Now I want a post-uplift omake where one of Hazou's descendants beats videogame speedrunning.
 
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So, honestly, I'm feeling a bit tired. In that I want a proper break, as a reader, after the VHitM arc. A lore update while we heal and do nothing of import seems good.


That said, working on plans for this quest lets me procrastinate on other things, so I'll do that.

We're going to take it easy until Inoue and Nobby are fully healed, which means relatively low impact work. I figure a few things are on the docket:
  • Pangolin Diplomacy.
  • Research.
  • Go to town, stock up on essentials, gather news from caravans.
  • Ask Akane more about the Uchiha. (I've been wanting to do this for a while, it'll likely be a relatively short: "They're the police, and have scary fucking eyes" , but the other possible answers are incredibly informative and cost us nothing to ask.)
  • Potentially send message to Jiraiya.



Anyway, Let me rework my earlier proto-plan with things others have said.

[] Proto-Plan : Pangolin Persuasion

Goal: Have Keiko find out as much as possible about the pangolins.

Plan:
  1. Ask about possible trade goods the pangolin may want.
  2. If we want to get a summon, are there any gifts that would be good to get them?
  3. Try to find a cultural tutor for Keiko, to help her work well with pangolin. Pandaa might suffice if he can set aside his preconceptions and ask questions first. We could also give him an opportunity to study humans.
  4. Cultural Questions:
    1. From @OliWhail: What was the issue with the Mori bloodline? Is this an issue with bloodlines in general?
    2. From @OliWhail: What are other faux pas to avoid? Ask Pandaa to explain this to us as if we are unintelligent, socially isolated toddlers.
    3. From @OliWhail: What sorts of things can we do as tokens of friendship for Pandaa?
    4. From @Dictator4Hire: Another thing we need to keep in mind is that the Pangolins might be allied to a clan whose summoner is a member of a Hidden Village. Hopefully no one in Mist, but it could be any village as far as we know. I think we should ask about that sooner rather than later. Summoner etiquette between allied clans could be entertaining.
    5. From @vali: Do they use some form of currency, or is it a purely favor-based economy? What do elite Pangolins have that lower status Pangolins lack?
    6. From @vali: Summoners obviously have some value to the summon realms. Get a clearer idea of what that value consists of, so we can maximize it.
  5. Ask about Skill Tutors:
    1. Sealing
    2. Medicine (Make sure it'll work on humans first)
    3. General Ninjutsu of Various Sorts
    4. Technique Hacking
    5. Nature Chakra/Sage Mode Stuff
    6. Sensory Jutsu
    7. Element Use
    8. Communication/Coordination Jutsu
  6. Support Role Summon Questions:
    1. This is unlikely to work, but see if pangolin have therapists who might be able to help Keiko and the rest of the group with mental health issues
    2. Consider finding a doctor summon who we can call outside of combat to help keep us patched together.
    3. From @Citrus: Pangolin with sensory capabilities who would be willing to help scout, sentry, or track for us.
  7. Historical/Cultural Questions
    1. From @Citrus: What happened to Ui/what are the last interactions the pangolins had with him?
    2. From @Citrus: are there different sects like different branches of their army with different skills, so that we can narrow down our search for summons
    3. From @OliWhail: Can we get historical info that the village was denying us?
  8. Logistics / Quest Questions:
    1. Ask about whether the pangolin could pass messages to the frog summoner.
    2. From @OliWhail, @Dictator4Hire: Are there any of the Pangolin Clan's allies which currently lack a summoner, or would be willing to take on more summoners?
    3. From @Cariyaga: I wonder if they would be willing to allow personal summons, similar to Maito Gai's tortoise summon, Ningame? It would be excellent, as missing-nin, to have touchstones in our respective specialties that we could learn from and collaborate with in battle.
    4. From @Citrus: Pangolin that with quest hooks (ex: Ui had a fabled sword that is super OP, I'll help you if you agree to help retrieve it, we'll even let Keiko keep it)
    5. From @Citrus: Does time run 1:1 in here and the Summoning Realm?
  9. Other Relationship Actions:
    1. From @OliWhail, @Dictator4Hire: If you can communicate with toad summons/Jiraya set up an easy way to get a message/dead drop to him if we don't contact for 2 months. Set up initial dead-drop with encrypted details on VHitM, location, culture, etc... a standard field report as if we were completely loyal to him and had no counterbalancing loyalty to Takahashi.
 
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Jello_Raptor said:
So, honestly, I'm feeling a bit tired. In that I want a proper break, as a reader, after the VHitM arc. A lore update while we heal and do nothing of import seems good.


That said, working on plans for this quest lets me procrastinate on other things, so I'll do that.

We're going to take it easy until Inoue and Nobby are fully healed, which means relatively low impact work. I figure a few things are on the docket:
  • Pangolin Diplomacy.
  • Research.
  • Go to town, stock up on essentials, gather news from caravans.
  • Ask Akane more about the Uchiha. (I've been wanting to do this for a while, it'll likely be a relatively short: "They're the police, and have scary fucking eyes" , but the other possible answers are incredibly informative and cost us nothing to ask.)
  • Potentially send message to Jiraiya.



Anyway, Let me rework my earlier proto-plan with things others have said.

[] Proto-Plan : Pangolin Persuasion

Goal: Have Keiko find out as much as possible about the pangolins.

Plan:
  1. Ask about possible trade goods the pangolin may want.
  2. If we want to get a summon, are there any gifts that would be good to get them?
  3. Try to find a cultural tutor for Keiko, to help her work well with pangolin. Pandaa might suffice if he can set aside his preconceptions and ask questions first. We could also give him an opportunity to study humans.
  4. Cultural Questions:
    1. From @OliWhail: What was the issue with the Mori bloodline? Is this an issue with bloodlines in general?
    2. From @OliWhail: What are other faux pas to avoid? Ask Pandaa to explain this to us as if we are unintelligent, socially isolated toddlers.
    3. From @OliWhail: What sorts of things can we do as tokens of friendship for Pandaa?
    4. From @Dictator4Hire: Another thing we need to keep in mind is that the Pangolins might be allied to a clan whose summoner is a member of a Hidden Village. Hopefully no one in Mist, but it could be any village as far as we know. I think we should ask about that sooner rather than later. Summoner etiquette between allied clans could be entertaining.
    5. From @vali: Do they use some form of currency, or is it a purely favor-based economy? What do elite Pangolins have that lower status Pangolins lack?
    6. From @vali: Summoners obviously have some value to the summon realms. Get a clearer idea of what that value consists of, so we can maximize it.
  5. Ask about Skill Tutors:
    1. Sealing
    2. Medicine (Make sure it'll work on humans first)
    3. General Ninjutsu of Various Sorts
    4. Technique Hacking
    5. Nature Chakra/Sage Mode Stuff
    6. Sensory Jutsu
    7. Element Use
    8. Communication/Coordination Jutsu
  6. Support Role Summon Questions:
    1. This is unlikely to work, but see if pangolin have therapists who might be able to help Keiko and the rest of the group with mental health issues
    2. Consider finding a doctor summon who we can call outside of combat to help keep us patched together.
    3. From @Citrus: Pangolin with sensory capabilities who would be willing to help scout, sentry, or track for us.
  7. Historical/Cultural Questions
    1. From @Citrus: What happened to Ui/what are the last interactions the pangolins had with him?
    2. From @Citrus: are there different sects like different branches of their army with different skills, so that we can narrow down our search for summons
    3. From @OliWhail: Can we get historical info that the village was denying us?
  8. Logistics / Quest Questions:
    1. Ask about whether the pangolin could pass messages to the frog summoner.
    2. From @OliWhail, @Dictator4Hire: Are there any of the Pangolin Clan's allies which currently lack a summoner, or would be willing to take on more summoners?
    3. From @Cariyaga: I wonder if they would be willing to allow personal summons, similar to Maito Gai's tortoise summon, Ningame? It would be excellent, as missing-nin, to have touchstones in our respective specialties that we could learn from and collaborate with in battle.
    4. From @Citrus: Pangolin that with quest hooks (ex: Ui had a fabled sword that is super OP, I'll help you if you agree to help retrieve it, we'll even let Keiko keep it)
    5. From @Citrus: Does time run 1:1 in here and the Summoning Realm?
  9. Other Relationship Actions:
    1. From @OliWhail, @Dictator4Hire: If you can communicate with toad summons/Jiraya set up an easy way to get a message/dead drop to him if we don't contact for 2 months. Set up initial dead-drop with encrypted details on VHitM, location, culture, etc... a standard field report as if we were completely loyal to him and had no counterbalancing loyalty to Takahashi.
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No 'what are the Paths'? I'm disappointed.
eaglejarl said:
It doesn't translate from R'lyehan well, I'm afraid. Here's the original, though:



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̵̢̥̙̰̎̋̓ͫ͊ͭ̅ͨ ̝͎͈̖̩̱͖̯̬̔́̒͐͢ ̴̞̪̩̫̣̹͚̅̇ͤͣ̇ͦ̓͊ ̵̲̮͙̗͚̪̌̿̓ͮ̾́͝ͅ ̦̥͍͓͎̪͐̋ͥ̕ ̻̰̖̈́͘ ͎̟̖͍ͫ̌̑ͬ̚͝͡[̞̣͙̰̪̣͕̫̝̂̐̂̂́̎(̷̡͖͖̤̻͙̥̥̗ͣ̂ͫ͐͒̿ͨ_̾̃ͯͪ̔̔͛͏̖̻̻͠ ̨̡̤̝̜͎ͥ̿̃͠iͬ̋͒̎̂ͪ̅̚͏͇̙͓͓̩̟́͡dͯ̊̆̈́̊̅͆́̈͜͏̫͙̝̳ ̠̙̮̪̇̒̈̇͘f̷̟͇ͩi̶͈̙̯̟͖̇̇ͨ́̀ȩ̬̫ͬ̌̓l̼͕̠̰ͧ̒͊̏ͫ́ͩ̏d̗̲͕͙̘ͮ̍̀́s̯̫ͬͦͭ͟͞ ̦̰̙̆̄ͣ̉̓̀̕.̸̺̙̙̼͕̱̘̋͋ͣ̊.̖̉ͯͨ̿ͬ̀.̦͎̩̾̄̔͌̔̿͊̓̚͜͢ ̵̨͎͓̻͓̱̞̜̺̐͟ͅ)̾͆̾ͤ҉͚̯͇̯͉͇̪
̡̤̼ͬ̌͡͠ ̨̱̲͇̳̹͇ͨͩ̔̀͠ ͦ͋̅ͩ͆ͦ͏͠҉̩̤ ̴̟̣̹̂̄̌͆ͯͮ̊̓͟͜ ̮̤͚͕̺̍̎ͬͬͩ͛͟͝͡ͅ ͥ̿͝͏̬͈̼̱͙̹̤͢ ̄ͧ͆̽͒̉ͧ̈́҉̝̹ ̙̼̤͈̘̥̹̝̎̐ͯ̕(̵̯̜͐̉ͩ́͝ͅw̨͔̑̃̄ͪ͊̈́ͥͯ͘̕ị̵̷̤͚̘͓̱̽͗̂̏͒̃͟ẗ̷͔̞̟̮̦̪̲̓̑ͮͅh͙̉̂ͭ-̱̳̇ͣ̇̓̏̽ͯ̊͝s̈́͐́̍ͬͫ͂҉̟͘yͣ̂̆̔ͫ͝҉͕̦̝͕̱̩̜ṋ̫̻̆͆̅͋t̖͉̬̖̬̎́́ͮ̿̐̿̔͛͢͡â̫̣̼͚̤͉̘̽̅͑ͩ̕ẍ̦̻͙̘̯̬̣͙͒ͣ͐ͬ͠ ͬ̑ͣ̋ͤ҉̴͙̠̝̰̗̻̹͕[̬͍̊͋̌͂͊͘͜͡(̡̢̰̞̿̋p̖͖̤͍͍͗͂̒̽͐̆̃ͮ͜ͅr̬̯̼͛̏͛̀̐̓̚e̔̌͏͕͎͟d̩̠̯͇̩̮͓̅̽͒ͯͪͩ̀̚ ̦̱̭͓ͣ͘(̡̙ͫ̾̀ͤ͡ͅfͤ̓͑ͮ͐̈́͋͐͏̪̞o̧̱̣̼̗̼̍ͯ̎ͭ̒̋ͣͭ͛r̨̮̠͇͇̼̪̍̇ͫͅm̷̦͔̳͚͍͖̣̳̾ͧa̵̲͚ͫͣ̈t̴̝̦̣̝̝̯̟ͣͤ̎̌̾̕-̧̟͔͕͙̳̲̯͆̏͋͝i̭̥̗̟̰̼͎̰ͦ̒͞d̬̫̥̘̜̙̞̏̎̆̑̏̽͢ ̥͕̱̹̈́ͣ̊͠s̏̔ͣ̅͝͏͉̦̯t̴̛̪̭̲͚͎̺̼ͦ͟x̷̟͕̒̌̈́ ̋ͮ̓̔͑̊͏̻"͕̦̘̤̙͎̳͕͒͑ͮ̌ͮ͝~̺̪̤͙͙ͮ͐ͤ̿͘ạ͕̙̬̮̩̽͆́̀̆̍̆͟͜?̵̢̩̙̦̖̩͌̋͂ͅ"͇̖̪̩͚̠ͦ̎̋̓͋̀ͅ ̫̟̖̻̲͛̉̊ͧͪ́͡#ͤͨ͗͋҉̢̺͚̰'̷̵̳ͣ̓i̛̤̰̎ͨͯ͌̈́̐ͥḓ̙̩͍̮͍̹͋̔̐ͨ̊̌̚͝)̛̮͓̦̻̽̈̆ͥͩ̈͗̿̀̚͡ͅ)̩̥̯̦̌̈ͤͦ̑ͬ̚
͖̳̃ͦ̂ͬ̄̋ͤ ̸̪͎̬̒͌̊͆ͯ̒ͫ͜͟ ͇͕̱̳͙̉͋͝ͅ ̯̩̻̼̳̹̘̋͞͡ͅ ̵̥͓̹̫̍̄̓̇̄̈́̈́̀̚͘ ̴̮̟̮̗͕͉͈͙̐ͧ́͟ ̢͔͋ͭ̋ͩ̈̃ͬ͐ͧ ̡̣̱̻̦̔ͦ͆ͩ͌̕ ̥͈ͪ̾ ̷̫̙̭̳̝̎ͬ ̖̟̬̗̺͎͇͗ͮ̀ ̵̦̰̠͐͒͝ ̶̸͖̝̺̘̘͚̜ͦ̑͂̑̅ ̸̢̪̩͓̳̰͔̐͂̈̏͆̕ ̼͍̳̮̜͎̻̦̽ͪ͌ͪ̎ͦ̔̕͢ ̸̫̙̗̟͕͚͔͚̤͂̾̃͑̎̽͌̕ ̵̨͓͖̹̯̙̼̜ͣͪ̂̉ ̸̱̜̱̳͙̞̎̃̉ͯ̾̄̇ ͓̗͈́̊̿ ̡͚̜̗̜̔̃ͨ͡ ̷̲͍̜̠̾̃́͡ͅ#̡͎͓͖̺͔̼͆̐̐ͭͥ̅̀́`̢̰̯̮̲̏͂̏̏́̽̃̀(̎ͯ̔ͯ҉̷̯̜̠b̵̦̳̈́ͥ̄̋ͭę͉ͨ͑ͭ̃ͅģ͍͙͔̬͒̋͒̆̿͒i̶̴̘̣̮̗͖̬̾͒̾̅̆̒ͤͯͅn̵̶͇̹̹̱̭̩̻̓̏ͤͩ̔̇́ͅ
̪̲̪̟͚̞͇̓̆͊̅ ̝̥ͩ̆ͯͪ̑͂ ̶̵̩̻̤͕͕̃ͥ ͋̀̇ͬ̿ͮͩ͗ͤ͏̵̣̥ ̙͈͍̃ͥ̔ͦ̿̉̋͟ ̟̘̰̌̓̋̋͋ ̸̧̼̖̤͚͈̺̱͇͆̌͆̌͛͛̎ ̖̠̩̠̲̜͈̔͐̂ͫ̉ͧͪ́͠͝ ̸̠͛ͤͣͥ̂͛͟͢ ̷͙̱͉̘̎̂̋̏ͩͅͅͅ ̷̼̞̣͛̑̄͒̈͐͠ ̢̗̺̲̋͂̾̎̓̔͋̄́̕ ̤̪̗̖͙͚̘̌͊̾ͤ͘͞ͅ ̧̝̣͎̘̣̙̘̓ͤ̓ͧ̈́́̕ ̙̬̇̾͠ͅ ̛̭̤̬̘̘̳̥̪̈́̃͢ ̗͖ͫ̂̾ͮͨ ͪ̄̍́ͦ͌͋͊̈͏͉͍̙́ ̵̻̩̭͕̩̞̦͙͓̎̇̆ͥ̍͛ ̡̡̱̣̞̓̌̑ ̵̷̫̲͈̰̗͉͇͒ͯ͌̈͒̍̌ͣ ͈̗̠͖̹̼̮̤̃̂̽̃̓͒̓̉ͅ ̌͂̀͒̿͑ͤ̿҉̶̲ ̶̱͇͙̙̼̞̰ͬ̂̈́̑͌̍̍̓͜ ̨̜͉̭̠̖̥̓ͩͣ͘ͅ(̧̮̼͙̞͋͘d̥̳̯̪̙̔̌͗ͤͭ́͑͂͋͞e̴̾͏̳͈̱̪f͎̳̣̦͓̞̲̦̓̃̊̋̑ͣ̔ͦḯ̭͔̱̻̼̼͖͖̥̕n̳̬̞͕͎̻̰̥͒̂e̵̘͚͌ͩ͊͜ ̬̪͓̪̳͕̗͇̒͗̓̌̅́̇ͨ(͔̩̩͉̬͖̦̮̮͊̋ͮ͑͐̕͘i͓̬̬̰͕̼̫̠͆ͨ̒ͭ̇ͯͩḋ̙̫̤ͯͨ̈̀̕ͅ ̷̹̯̩̱̑ͭͭ̄f̷̥̻̬̠̋̈́̏̔̽ͮ̎ͩ́ǐ̯̜̦̀͑ͨͭ̇̎e̗̺̽ͬ̓̏̊̔ͭ̉̎l̡͚͉̝͖̼̰̤̖̇̊̉͗̋̋ͧ̒͐͘͝d͓̹̞̪̅ͣ́s̯͔̗̭ͥ̀̂̊̀͠ ̡̛̙̩̝̱̘̈́́ͫ̓.̹̺̎̀̓̍̓́ͤ.̖̞̰̹̳̺̜̄ͬͦ̿ͫͨ̃̀́̚͠.̡͕̲̗̗͔ͧ̍)̩̦̱̥̩̽ͥ̆ͨͮͤͥ͟ͅ ̎ͭ̄̄͊͆ͫ͠҉͕͙͔͔͔(͗̇̀҉̢̟̖͔̬̜̳ṽ̷̘͓͚̠̬̕e̷̛͖̺ͫ͆ͭ̅̒̓̇͛͘c̴̛̮̟͕̙͇̣͋ͯ͡t̲̜̞̫̩͚̬̿ͯͨͭ́́͢͞òͦ̅͗͏̡̗ṛ̷̣͆͋͑ͯ̇̀͘ ̵͖͔ͩ͑ͯ̌͢ĭ̩͒̋͊̽͜ḑ̖̯͓̦͈͕̲̦ͭ͗̒ͫ̚͟ ̦̦̠̮́̑̋̅̎̾̕f̵̢̜̲̠̰̫̗̪ͯͤ̆͌ͦ͑̍i̥͒̊̓̇ͪ̉̈́̾̊e̷̎̽̀ͧ̓ͣͤ͏̼͖̹͉̝̣̺l̝͙͕̦͇̝͍̆̊̀ͭ̏ͯͨ̅̚͠d̰̩͖͔̺̩̺̟͋͒̿̾́͘s̫̈́̓̊ͨ̌̋̋͌ͅ ̧̳͖̜͈̥̌̒͊̈́̔̀.̹ͯͩ̌ͣ̔̈́.̡̲̗̦̞̠͓͗́̽͂̃̎͛͒.̰͍̝̫̣̩̒͗͛̔ͪͥ͒)͈̰͇̼̥̞̈́͋́̾ͫͫ̀͠)̵̴͉̹͓͔̝̗ͩͥ̓ͅ
͕̘̠̱̜̲̗̎̎͂ͪ͂͒̋ͬ͜͠ ̴͕̒̏ͤ͛̊͌̋͌ ̳̭̹̩̭̏ͤ̂̇ͫ̌̈̇̿̀͞ͅ ͣͭ̇͂͌̆̎̈҉̤̳͎̜ ͚̗͈̫͌͐ ̱̤̙̹̟̖ͦ̍ ̩̮̩̬̖͈̄͂̈ͦ̀͝ ͫ͑ͯ̚͝҉҉̹̝͔͈͇̙ ͭ́̈̎͗ͦ͏̻̹̜ ͈̹͚̱͉͆͌ͦ̓͑ͫͫͥ̾ ̤̬̹̦͕͙̙͐̅͝ ͓̓͟͞͞ ̛̖̪̥̖̹̟̞̣ͧ̈́̐͛͐̕ ̴̠̒ͯ̈́̀ͣ́ ̧̺̹͍̯͖̥̥͔ͤͮͭ ̗͕̘͉̜̎͘ ̛̭͉̬̱͑̽͆͆͛̏͌̎͠͠ ̵̩̺͇͕̮̎ͧ̃͋ͩ͛̀̚ ͂́̽͏̘͔͝ ̲̭̣͂͆ͮ̂͊͂́ ̭̒ͪ͐͊ͯ́̅̈ͅ ̞̣̬͖͍̍̈́͞ ̥̗̹͙̿ͦ͑ͯ̉͘ ̡̛̰͇̭̳̘̮͖ͬ̓̍̀ ̴̣̣̫͔̬̥̲̰͆͒͋͛̈̽͑(̈ͧ͏̣̘͙̞̼d̻̰͕͖͇̅ͭ̽͒́e̡͓̭̩̺̰͕̟ͦ͛͗̇͑ͦ̔̚f͚̜̥ͨ̋̉ͧͣͥ͆́i̯̭̹̦̙̊̊͆̎̾͛͛̑̀͜n̴̢̜̺̖̾̓ͣ͂ͭͫͫe̢ͮ͋͑͘͏̘̦̝ ̣̗͖͇̙̬̾͒͘(̶̭̦͙͔̭̮͍̒̇͊͌̓ͥͥͭ͟p̸̧̜̬͎̼̺̥̼͒͒̈́͗̽̌ͭ̅r̴̗̞̞̎͒̌ë̺̫̘̩͖͙̯̳́͛͗̑̈́d̛̀̇̄̍̌ͭ̆̚͏͚͞ ̘̯̲͍͍̣̘̫̑̎̏ͬͬͨ͊̇͘͘ͅx̴̶̭̥͛͡)ͥ̑͋̋͏̯̯̙̣̟̙͔͎͡
̋̄͑ͤ̓̾ͥ͜҉̼̠ ̶̱̗̩̗̻͔ͫ̐ͮͬ̚͠͡ ̱̪̔̏̊̈́̍̅ͬ ̰̯͙̖͔͙̙͔͂̀̍͢͝ ̵̟͔̜͖͉̖̘̳͉͂ͪ̀ ̨͔͍͚ͪ͐ͧ͘ ̙͈̲͖̹̦̞̯̫̅ͪ̀̀͡ ̛̲̜͎͖̲ͩ̋͘ ̨̾ͪ͛͒̆͆̿͊͘҉̙̭̱̻̩͈ ̧̦̺̰̦͈͈̻͂̓̚͟ ̷̬̾ͩ͟ͅ ̴̪̯̬͖͓̫̑̓ͯ̐͊ ̸̢̜̱͎̫̜̟͗̈̄ͨ̽͢ ̶̥͖͕̰͈̺̝͇̽̍̎ͦ̂͘ ͕ͪ̍̽ͯ̏͗̾ͯ̅ ̸̮̬͙͉͕͎̖̳ͣ͆ͦ̒̀ ̸̛̳̹̝ͦͯ͆̾ͦ̀ ̣̝̂̆ͨ͆ͧ̀͝ ̷̢̬̟̟͊̽͘ ̧̟͎̥̲͕̩͈̆͌ͪ̔͌̌͑ ̮͚͍ͦ͊ͫ̅ͫͩ͌͜ ̴̢͙͈̣̤̓͗̐͑̉ͬ̐̎̒͠ ̧̱̞̼̯̣̭̮ͬ͗͗̓̀ ̶̧̳͆̅͗̒̋̐̅̈́̈́͟ ̴̷̙̩ͥͣ̎ͫ̓̌ ̮̍̀͛̈́́ͣ ̷̶̭̳̞̄̋͑̀̓ͭͪ͐̍͞(͙̙̣̟̹͓̤̮͙͗̉͑̂̍͆̇͌a̙̱̖̜̭͎̅̃̐ͬ̆̐̉ͥ͟͠͞n̛͇̥̅̑̑͒̇̓̈ͩd̖̬̈́ͧ̏͋̈́̚͢ ̬͙͙̥́ͯ̓̀ͅ(̢̇̃͏͈̟v̷͔̙͕̰͖̋͌ͤ͆̏̊͑͡ē̶͈̻̲̇́̋͑c̻̟͕̼̤̫̬̹̔̓̊͡͡ͅt̴̵̰̫̯̠̟̎͗̐̌̍̏ȯ̵̧̖͇̜̲̭̳̖̈ͣ͂ͬ͐͡rͭ̈͏̧̘̰̰͚̳̗ͅ?̷̨̹̼̹̩͇̬̯̓̀ ͩ͌ͤ̉̀҉̯̲͍̺̰̖͡x̷̗̳̻͉͐̓̊ͅ)̣̬͓̝̠̝͐̆̾
̦̱͂̇̈ͯͤ͟ ̧̖̗͐̊̓ͩ ̯̤̐͗͋͞ ̙ͬ͐̃̓̄ ̢̛͚̘͇̙̍̓͋͛̕ ̸͎͉̗̙̳͌̀ ̨̛̖̺͊͗̈́̿͋ͨ ̵͙̟̪̪͐̂ͯͬ̓̇̇ ̓̃̾͑ͬ̈́͂ͣ҉̵͓͕̦͙͓͎̝̭͜ͅ ̝̭͔͎̒̏̾͂ͫ ̴̧̡͍͙̥͙͎͕̯̲͓͌ͩͫ͗̑̾ͭͣ ̯̝̥̪͈̱̱̪̋͒ͩ̀ͪ̓͝ ̨̙̮̻̘̩̩͂͑̆̄̽͜ͅ ̼͓͈͎̖̖̙ͪ̂̍͛ͣ͑͛ͫ͟ ͚̗̜̭̟͛ͮ̕ ̴̥̫͎̗̥͋ͣ̋̚ͅ ̝̌ͥͤͩ̆͐̉͟ ̢̞̝̠̭͖̘͕͚̌͋̆̓̔͞ ̵̨͕̺̮̳̲̤̰̄ͅ ͇̖̬͈̬̍͂̈́̾̆͋̋ͥ̉ ͓̰̥̐͛͗ͬ̄͑͘ ̴͇͇̹̺̖̙ͬͅͅ ̛͔̙̤͇͍̤̇ͪ̄̍̒ͯ̿̀̚͢ͅ ̶̱̯ͣ̃ͧ̒ͬ̒̃ͧ ̨̠͇͈͇̇ ̨̛͉̫̣̫̲̭̪͒̿ͤ̑̚͡ ͉͙̥̭͈̙̺̗̎ͪ̎̚͜ ͥ͋͂̂ͬͬ̊̓̋͏̤̗̺̣̪̟̬́ ̆͒̔҉̷̶̣͇͎ ̒̃̄̓͆͌͏̝͖̲͍͍̼̩͝ ̬̻͈̣͕͈̖ͥ̃̊͗ͭ͢ ̶̣͇̌̆͢(̟̳̭̦̣͍̙ͨ̏̒͋ͥ̑̀́̚ͅę͎͍̘̺̯͉̀̾̆q̶͚͉̻͓͔̬̒͑̆̂͐?̃̆̂ͪ̅̆̆ͨ́͏̢̦̻̼̯ ̖̲̞͊̋̽̉͆͑̈̿́ͅ(̷̡͉̭͓̰̫͈̉ͪ͛̉ͨ̅͜v̦̺͈̳̞̘̬̔̉̋ͣ̌̓̀e̶̠̬̺̭̥̽̾̂́ͦ̚c̡̱̦͙̞͉͚̠̒̔ͭ̊ͫ͊̊̽͢t̢͖͔̼͕͍̣̰̪̎͛̂ͦͧͮ͞ơ͙̠̬̒ͣͮͨ̉͒͘ͅr̷͖̠̱̮͇̩̠̒́ͅ-̳̭̲̟͓̝̤̣͎͋͋r̡̗̼̩͚ͯ̇̈ͫ̍̈̓͌̈́͠e̵̞͓̬̟͗̊̅̀̌̂f̵̢͓̔ͫ ̣͖̪̹̰͐̀ͭ̋͡x̤̜̲̮̞ͧ̓̌͆̀ ̢͚͓͕̪͙͔͓̆́͛ͣ͡0̴̡̼͎̫̬͙̹ͯ͌ͭͅ)̡͖̫̪͈̙͔ͭ́͠ ̙̱̠͔͕̙̞̮ͧȋ͙̜̩͍͖͓͘͠d̷̝̥̲̘̤̓ͣͪ̋̕)̡͈͔͑̊̔̆̂̃̽̏̚͡)̗̦̠̹̓͐̃̂͗̐́͞)̶̻̝̪̠̠̆̔͠
̸͐ͫͤͪ̌́̚҉̜̘̝ ̴̉̉͏͕̮́ ̨̯͕̖̜͂̌̈͘͞ ͓ͬ͗͘͢͟ͅ ͖͍̘͇͚̫̟̰̻͆͝ ̡̺̯̀̋͡ ̬͓͖̰͙̫̹́̔ͩ̅́ ̸̯͈̟̈ͬͦ̑ͪ̓̈́͜ ̮̤̣̝̲͚̣̜̘ͤ͌ͫ͠ ̴̠̠̹͋͑́ͭͯ̇͆̇ ̨̬͓̰͓̺͎̥̐̿̃ͭ̐̓̂͘͟ ̬̳͛̍́͠ ̶̱̮̰̥̟̮ͦ͊ͩ̐͂͝ ̧͓̠͍̟͈̙̲̳̤̆̿ ̡̡̺̮̼̪ͨͭ̊ ̴͔̬̣͉̞͉̗̥ͩͥ͞ ̡̙̪̭͖̙͆̑̌̇̈́ͪͅ ̙͙͙̭̜̥͔͍̞ͥͯͭ͋ͦ͛͠ ̭͈̰̝̖̬͇͉̅̄̋ͦ̊ͯ̾̆͘ ̡̡̗͇̳̥͙̹̈̓ͨ ̵̶̷͙̳̠̜̼ͭͪ̀̓ͮ̚ ̢̲̤̭̣͇̫͍̲͍̄̃̿̿̀ ̛̗ͮ̇ͯ̇͜ ̣͔͍̠͉͇̣̋ͤͮ̑ͯ̊̎̓̉ ̍ͧͯ̀ͨ͏͇̤)͍͓̮͈͍͎͔ͥ̉̆ͭ̒̕)̖͌ͬ̒̕]̵̺͚͓̺̹͔̦ͯ̊̂ͩ͂͒ͤ)̊̂̌͗ͪ̐̊͑̀҉̢̨̥̫̠)̷̖̦̗̤̥̱͎̰͈̓̒ͣ̓͊ͥ
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As I have no good Zalgo translaton on my phone, could I have the plaintext?
 
Jello_Raptor said:
Now I want a post-uplift omake where one of Hazou's descendants beats videogame speedrunning.
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I could have a go at it :D

Jello_Raptor said:
So, honestly, I'm feeling a bit tired. In that I want a proper break, as a reader, after the VHitM arc. A lore update while we heal and do nothing of import seems good.


That said, working on plans for this quest lets me procrastinate on other things, so I'll do that.

We're going to take it easy until Inoue and Nobby are fully healed, which means relatively low impact work. I figure a few things are on the docket:
  • Pangolin Diplomacy.
  • Research.
  • Go to town, stock up on essentials, gather news from caravans.
  • Ask Akane more about the Uchiha. (I've been wanting to do this for a while, it'll likely be a relatively short: "They're the police, and have scary fucking eyes" , but the other possible answers are incredibly informative and cost us nothing to ask.)
  • Potentially send message to Jiraiya.



Anyway, Let me rework my earlier proto-plan with things others have said.

[] Proto-Plan : Pangolin Persuasion

Goal: Have Keiko find out as much as possible about the pangolins.

Plan:
  1. Ask about possible trade goods the pangolin may want.
  2. If we want to get a summon, are there any gifts that would be good to get them?
  3. Try to find a cultural tutor for Keiko, to help her work well with pangolin. Pandaa might suffice if he can set aside his preconceptions and ask questions first. We could also give him an opportunity to study humans.
  4. Cultural Questions:
    1. From @OliWhail: What was the issue with the Mori bloodline? Is this an issue with bloodlines in general?
    2. From @OliWhail: What are other faux pas to avoid? Ask Pandaa to explain this to us as if we are unintelligent, socially isolated toddlers.
    3. From @OliWhail: What sorts of things can we do as tokens of friendship for Pandaa?
    4. From @Dictator4Hire: Another thing we need to keep in mind is that the Pangolins might be allied to a clan whose summoner is a member of a Hidden Village. Hopefully no one in Mist, but it could be any village as far as we know. I think we should ask about that sooner rather than later. Summoner etiquette between allied clans could be entertaining.
    5. From @vali: Do they use some form of currency, or is it a purely favor-based economy? What do elite Pangolins have that lower status Pangolins lack?
    6. From @vali: Summoners obviously have some value to the summon realms. Get a clearer idea of what that value consists of, so we can maximize it.
  5. Ask about Skill Tutors:
    1. Sealing
    2. Medicine (Make sure it'll work on humans first)
    3. General Ninjutsu of Various Sorts
    4. Technique Hacking
    5. Nature Chakra/Sage Mode Stuff
    6. Sensory Jutsu
    7. Element Use
    8. Communication/Coordination Jutsu
  6. Support Role Summon Questions:
    1. This is unlikely to work, but see if pangolin have therapists who might be able to help Keiko and the rest of the group with mental health issues
    2. Consider finding a doctor summon who we can call outside of combat to help keep us patched together.
    3. From @Citrus: Pangolin with sensory capabilities who would be willing to help scout, sentry, or track for us.
  7. Historical/Cultural Questions
    1. From @Citrus: What happened to Ui/what are the last interactions the pangolins had with him?
    2. From @Citrus: are there different sects like different branches of their army with different skills, so that we can narrow down our search for summons
    3. From @OliWhail: Can we get historical info that the village was denying us?
  8. Logistics / Quest Questions:
    1. Ask about whether the pangolin could pass messages to the frog summoner.
    2. From @OliWhail, @Dictator4Hire: Are there any of the Pangolin Clan's allies which currently lack a summoner, or would be willing to take on more summoners?
    3. From @Cariyaga: I wonder if they would be willing to allow personal summons, similar to Maito Gai's tortoise summon, Ningame? It would be excellent, as missing-nin, to have touchstones in our respective specialties that we could learn from and collaborate with in battle.
    4. From @Citrus: Pangolin that with quest hooks (ex: Ui had a fabled sword that is super OP, I'll help you if you agree to help retrieve it, we'll even let Keiko keep it)
    5. From @Citrus: Does time run 1:1 in here and the Summoning Realm?
  9. Other Relationship Actions:
    1. From @OliWhail, @Dictator4Hire: If you can communicate with toad summons/Jiraya set up an easy way to get a message/dead drop to him if we don't contact for 2 months. Set up initial dead-drop with encrypted details on VHitM, location, culture, etc... a standard field report as if we were completely loyal to him and had no counterbalancing loyalty to Takahashi.
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This seems like a solid framework for Kei's actions in the near future - what is the rest of the party doing?
  • We can work with Akane on her style + learning about her past
  • We can work with Kagome on PMYF
  • Akane can fiddle with contraptions and gadgets as part of her style training and restocking our trap supply
  • Kagome and Akane can work on defenses, or all of us could work on setting up a fallback fort some distance away (though I'm wary to split the party, I'm less so now that more of us are combat-capable)
  • Noburi can help Inoue and potentially make a backup barrel (esp. if we learn we can hide it in the summon realm)
As much as I would enjoy reading about doing Hazou's seal experimentation mishaps, those are pretty much all things that can happen sort of in the background, turning this into basically a lore update.

Specific feedback:
  • Ettiquite for making and breaking contracts / making short-term contracts would be a good conversation to have early
    • Specifically, the cultural tutor might only be for a bit while Keiko gets acclimated
  • Do we know about nature chakra and sage stuf IC?
  • Re: therapists, we will need a diplomatic way to bring up the subject to other party members, particularly Kagome
    • Joyfully, it seems we can now just directly communicate concerns to Keiko as long as we aren't an asshole about it! Ah, the sweet sweet relief of discarding social games
  • It's the toad clan, not frog :p
  • IIRC Jiraiya said he was only aware of a single contract missing a summoner, and claimed not to know what it was. Thinking back on it, this seems curious - wouldn't the toads know their allies lacked a summoner? One explanation is that he was only willing to send us after this one because in fact he knew that the clan we would be bonding with would pressure us to be his allies, and didn't want to tell us who it was in case that info got out to the condor or tapir summoner. But that indicates he may also have not been totally honest about how many summoning contracts were available - e.g. if one of the enemy contracts was summonerless he probably wouldn't tell us until we were already aligned with him on that topic.
 
Having heard Inoue's concerns... I am feeling regret for supporting NOT telling Jiraiya about the VHitM, but... ugh. Why must all of our decisions be so hard? I don't want to burn our bridges with the village, which I feel Jiraiya's going there or sending agents there would be, but I don't like the idea of leaving him in the dark entirely...

e: Surely we can find a third option, guys, lets put our heads to the task.

I think that before we suggest to Keiko to ask about therapists we should first speak to Mari. Bring up that if ever there were a chance for her to open up to someone unrelated, it would be a summon.
 
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Twofold said:
You don't actually need to Composure 3 for social 6/6. In addition, Akane probably won't need more than 27 XP for the combat style, meaning I'm okay if we save that much from this time. When is her birthday again?
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Thanks, fixed. Also February 3 and today is January 15

[X] Training Akane: Mmm That You Only Meant Well?

[X] Training Keiko: Teleportation 101


For the action plan, we can reuse a good chunk of the old one, with its pangolin talk and Akane and Noburi and stuff.

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[X] Training Noburi: Up to Snuff
Control 9 [18/99]
Water Whip 14 [32/99]
Water Whip 15 [47/99]
Deposit 52: Medic Fund (3->55) [99/99]
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Fixed Nobby plan

[x] Action Plan: Lore Update
 
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I am so glad the "Lore Update to keep from voting in a stupid plan in the last minutes" thing caught on. I don't think it's actually ever won, but that safety net makes me so much more comfortable with the 2 day vote periods we get sometimes.

Also, looking at other quests on SV and SB, I love how we vote so very much: approval voting, gathering info and brainstorming before a proper vote starts, actual plans rather than a silly multiple choice exam. It's so much more interesting and engaging than the usual voting system for quests. #SleepDeprivationMusings
 
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Jello_Raptor said:
@eaglejarl, @Velorien, @Jackercracks : So I'm rereading some of the early updates, and I'm wondering about your process. Basically how far in advance do you plan certain things?

Take Inoue helping Keiko in the swamp for instance. That was really clearly set up, with foreshadowing before the reveal. Likewise the Black Hunter being a Sealmaster.

When did you decide on those things?

You mentioned the Pangolin was chosen before the start of the quest proper. I'd expect some of the large scale things, like the Liberator or Rain country, were well set very early on. But there's a lot of smaller scale things, like the existence of the Black Hunter, or the local Yakuza in Yumi, that would be infeasible for you to plot out that early on.
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It varies heavily. Some things are planned ridiculously crazy early on. A lot of things hang around as ideas in the form of "if X happened, then Y ought to happen", with no knowledge of whether X actually will happen, and then get fleshed out in the event. Some things derive from basic principles set out early on - e.g. "we haven't talked about what Gatō is doing right now, but given that Leaf's politics are currently X, and Naruto and Kakashi were doing Y at the time of the Wave Arc, he must be now be Z". A few things are developed only once we realise they need developing, such as the elders' politcking (which we only wrote up once we realised you guys weren't going to just smash and grab the scroll).

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@eaglejarl @Velorien What's Kagome's reaction to us trying to weaponize storage scrolls like he did with the implosion seal? Only instead of sealing air, we seal anything that's not air?
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Lots of screaming. Some of it involves the number of people you'd need to kill during the development process of a people-eater scroll, and the kind of sealing mishaps you could get from an action closely resembling mass blood sacrifice.

OliWhail said:
Can someone explain what she's communicating here?
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She's demonstrating to Hazō that she is using the technique she described to him earlier.

Twofold said:
Sorry Keiko, you have been officially removed from Hazou's "When I'm 18" -harem list. I can't with good conscience risk unleashing the progeny of you two on the Elemental Nations. That would be both cruel and unusual.
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"When I'm 18"? The way you guys are going, by 18 Hazō will either rule the known world, be dead, or both. Either way, the world will have bigger things to worry about than his potential progeny.

Muer'ci said:
Yeah, no. That doesn't count. Not part of the plan.
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No one said anything Hazō swearing to Jashin. What Jashin has accepted is the oath of the players themselves.

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Cariyaga said:
I'm that weirdo that loved Act 1 :p
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I am also that weirdo. Act 1 was back when you knew what the questions were, the spirit of wacky hijinks was stronger than the spirit of drama, and the Moebius Double Reacharound mindbending didn't make the plot nigh-impossible to follow even with a chart.
 
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Velorien said:
"When I'm 18"? The way you guys are going, by 18 Hazō will either rule the known world, be dead, or both. Either way, the world will have bigger things to worry about than his potential progeny.
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Unless we develop a hyperbolic time chamber for sealing experiments (or the summon realm is time-dilated), we'll likely have to indulge in time skips of some fashion (weeks to months) to develop the sealing, mednintech, technique hacking, and mechanistic principles we seek for the kind of world domination we intend.

Note to players: Develop a hyperbolic time chamber ASAP.

Other notes: I'd like to solidify what Mech Apt actually does. Does it support the development of geared automation type stuff? Where does it begin and where does it end?

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Edit: I am also that weirdo. Act 1 was back when you knew what the questions were, the spirit of wacky hijinks was stronger than the spirit of drama, and the Moebius Double Reacharound mindbending didn't make the plot nigh-impossible to follow even with a chart.
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Acts 2 and 3 were pretty awesome too -- I have a great fascination with alchemization and similar systems. Captchaloguing added to the shenaniganry and was great fun.

I do thrive on mindbending plots, though, as long as I know what I'm getting into, and by the time we got into that, it was pretty clear that Homestuck had one.
 
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Velorien said:
I am also that weirdo. Act 1 was back when you knew what the questions were, the spirit of wacky hijinks was stronger than the spirit of drama, and the Moebius Double Reacharound mindbending didn't make the plot nigh-impossible to follow even with a chart.
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Huh, I got caught up with Homestuck right around the end of arc 2. I haven't had a chance to pick it up again after that.

But at that point it was both pretty comprehensible, and the most timey wimey thing I've ever read. (As opposed to Primer, which was incomprehensible on a first pass but easily topped by even Heinlen's level of timey wimey.) There were a lot of moving parts, but the fact that it was all reasonably well explained and filled with pretty symmetries made it possible to understand.

Did it get worse?

Are the time travel charts finally more complex than the shipping matrices?
 
Jello_Raptor said:
Huh, I got caught up with Homestuck right around the end of arc 2. I haven't had a chance to pick it up again after that.

But at that point it was both pretty comprehensible, and the most timey wimey thing I've ever read. (As opposed to Primer, which was incomprehensible on a first pass but easily topped by even Heinlen's level of timey wimey.) There were a lot of moving parts, but the fact that it was all reasonably well explained and filled with pretty symmetries made it possible to understand.

Did it get worse?

Are the time travel charts finally more complex than the shipping matrices?
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AHAHAHAHAH oh you have no idea

e: Here, let me show you the chart for the location of li'l Cal:

 
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Cariyaga said:
AHAHAHAHAH oh you have no idea
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Oh boy ...

Has there been a phase change of some sort with the level of timey wimey-ness?

I fancy myself a connoisseur of different forms of time-travel in fiction, so if it's got something new it might be worth picking up again. (BTW. Greg Egan's Orthogonal series has the best time travel mechanic.)
 
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Expendable is not something summons are, although scouts/night watch is something I greatly support.
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My understanding is that if a summon gets a kunai through their skull, they go back to the summon realm and need time to heal to be re-summoned.

If anyone in our team gets a kunai through their skull, they are dead.


What is this "lore update" stuff? It's not like we have a hard decision to make, we are just faffing about because there's no plan to vote for. We can definitely vote for PMYF research and pangolin diplomacy. Those move things on, provide interesting information and give us resources. (I don't want to spend 10 updates in the periphery of Tea.)

I took @Jello_Raptor's summon realms list and did some choice edits to it. (i.e. I removed the therapist pangolin idea) I doubt eaglejarl will bother going through it point by point, but we could use it as a list of things Keiko should find out when she goes into the summon realm.

I expect that this will lead to Keiko's Fantastic Adventures in the Land of Magical Pangolins, and maybe Hazou doing cool sealing stuff, I don't know if he will get to actually testing the seals this time around, depends on how hard the sealing part of PMYF turns out to be. I didn't put goals and contingencies in since the first ones should be pretty evident and I'm not sure what the latter ones should be.


As usual, I'm very open for edits/additions/suggestions. For example: Do we need to do anything to prepare for Akane's birthday now? Is there some work we need done for the merchant empire plan?

[X] Action Plan: Summoners & Sealers

Spend a week on PMYF research and have Keiko try and get another summon pangolin.
  1. Have Keiko go to the summon realm and make a contract with a new individual pangolin
    • Expendable scout or a tracker would be a good low level idea
      • Find out how expendable the summons are outside the summon realm
      • Be careful, this is meant mostly as a test drive on how making a summoning contract works
      • Make sure there is a reasonable exit clause in the contract for us
      • If a scout seems unfeasible, use Keiko's best judgement for something else useful
    • Ask Pandaa for recommendations and help
      • Assure him that he is very useful, we just want new friends and allies in addition to him
      • See if Pandaa can answer any of the questions in the list that follows before going to the summon realm
    • A short list of things Keiko should try to find out in the Summon Realm
      1. Getting a Summon:
        1. Ask about possible trade goods the pangolin may want.
        2. If we want to get a summon, are there any gifts that would be good to get them?
        3. Is Pandaa good enough for a cultural tutor or do we need to find someone more specialized?
      2. Cultural Questions:
        1. What was the issue with the Mori bloodline? Is this an issue with bloodlines in general?
        2. What are other faux pas to avoid? Ask Pandaa to explain this to us as if we are unintelligent, socially isolated toddlers.
        3. What sorts of things can we do as tokens of friendship for Pandaa?
        4. What is the etiquette between two summoners and how does the fact that they are summoners affect their other alliances usually?
        5. How much info will the summons pass on about their summoners to other summon clans and their summoners?
        6. Do they use some form of currency, or is it a purely favor-based economy? What do elite Pangolins have that lower status Pangolins lack?
        7. Summoners obviously have some value to the summon realms. Get a clearer idea of what that value consists of, so we can maximize it.
        8. Is it okay for the summoners to bring their allies into the summon realm?
      3. Skill Tutors:
        1. Sealing
        2. Medicine (Make sure it'll work on humans first)
        3. General Ninjutsu of Various Sorts
        4. Technique Hacking
        5. Nature Chakra/Sage Mode Stuff
        6. Sensory Jutsu
        7. Element Use
        8. Communication/Coordination Jutsu
      4. Support Role Summon Questions:
        1. Are there Pangolin doctors we could contract with? Do they actually know anything about human physiology?
        2. What kind of sensory powers do the pangolins have for scouting and tracking purposes?
        3. Are there craftsman or engineer pangolins that would be of use to us?
        4. Any other "civilian" type pangolins with useful skills?
        5. Any way to boost chakra reserves through summoning?
      5. Historical/Cultural Questions:
        1. What happened to Ui/what are the last interactions the pangolins had with him?
        2. Are there different sects like different branches of their army with different skills, so that we can narrow down our search for summons
        3. Can we get historical info that the village was denying us?
      6. Logistics / Quest Questions:
        1. Ask about whether the pangolin could pass messages to the toad summoner.
        2. Are there any of the Pangolin Clan's allies which currently lack a summoner, or would be willing to take on more summoners?
        3. Pangolin that with quest hooks (ex: Ui had a fabled sword that is super OP, I'll help you if you agree to help retrieve it, we'll even let Keiko keep it)
        4. Does time run 1:1 in here and the Summoning Realm?
        5. Can we communicate or send a message to the Toad Summoner through the summon realm?
        6. Does Sealing and ninjutsu work normally in the summon realm? Would it be possible to setup a sealing (or other research skill) workshop in the summon realm?
  2. Setup a safe area for PMYF testing
    1. Besides standard sealing research precautions, brainstorm with Kagome how to test the PMYF kunais safely
      • Use low mass, non-dangerous objects for the sealing tests (sawdust etc.)
      • Test the flat surface seals before trying the wrapped ones
      • When moving to kunai versions, suspend the kunai from a branch or something and trigger it from above
    2. Make sure we can clear up the research area afterwards without leaving information of what we've done behind, use explosives if necessary.
  3. Chat with Akane
    1. Find out what sort of specialized Taijutsu style she would like to have
    2. Ask about her background and life in Leaf
    3. Talk about her and Keiko
      1. Keiko finds the Spirit of Youth very abrasive, she doesn't like it when she feels like the philosophy is being pushed on her
        • It might be better to respect Keiko's worldview and not try to fix it
      2. How do you settle between the Spirit of Youth and the fact that we are missing-nin, and will probably have to do horrible things before all is said and done?
  4. General Prep
    1. Suggest to Kagome that she could start teaching the use of explosive rings to Akane, since there's nothing too horrifying going on at the moment
    2. Have Noburi start working on a new barrel
    3. Keep building up our supply of combat seals
    4. Ask Mari if she could design some new clothes for us, would combat ponchos/cloaks that cover our weapons and handseals be doable?
 
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Twofold said:
What is this "lore update" stuff? It's not like we have a hard decision to make, we are just faffing about because there's no plan to vote for.
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It's a safeguard against doomsday joke plans from winning. In the unlikely event that an actual plan or a consensus cannot be made by anyone before the vote ends we won't be utterly screwed. Back story in and of itself can be interesting to read in addition to giving us more time to debate. Also, people can vote for it even when they can't devote time to check this thread shortly before voting ends.

It's a safety margin; no more, no less.

[X] Action Plan: Lore Update

Just in case.
 
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Suggest to Kagome that she could start teaching the use of explosive rings to Akane, since there's nothing too horrifying going on at the moment
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He?

Sleeps Furiously said:
Spend some time chatting with Akane. Ask about her childhood. Steer the conversation towards the kinds of things she likes. Ask her what traits she would look for in a fighting style she designed for herself.
Talk to Noburi. Commiserate about Yuno. Jokingly offer to make him that list next time. Check what's on his mind these days.

Once Noburi is healed, he can split his time between helping Mari/Keiko and working on a spare barrel.

Kagome and Hazou spend whatever time they're not otherwise engaged on building back up our supply of combat seals.
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@Twofold Would you mind throwing these in?

[X] Action Plan: Summoners & Sealers
 
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