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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Sir Stompy said:
Since we're not likely to make any significant progress on the Earthshaping jutsu for a bit, I think we should make the model anyway. It can't be literally worse than nothing.
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*model is incorrect but the flaw is not caught resulting in faulty assumptions on how to fix the seal which are implemented and resulting in catastrophic multiversal annihilation*
 
@faflec and @Paperclipped

Thank you guys so much for putting together the versions of Haru's character sheet.
Copy of Gōketsu Haru: Faflec's Version

Gōketsu Haru: Paperclipped Version

We've been hanging fire for a long time on picking one of those to canonize but we will probably get to it tomorrow unless something goes wrong. Could I ask you each to:

  1. Check over the XP totals and make sure everything is included and spent?
  2. Please fill in a sentence or two on his Aspects to suggest how/when they should be used?
He does have the Pangolin jutsu and the Yamanaka jutsu, so please include those. He got them when he joined the clan.
 
eaglejarl said:
  1. Check over the XP totals and make sure everything is included and spent?
  2. Please fill in a sentence or two on his Aspects to suggest how/when they should be used?
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  1. My stuff should be completed as of Chapter 428, but assuming he got XP on par with the others until his punishment in Chapter 449, he should be missing 263 XP. Would you like me to add said XP?
  2. Give me a minute.
 
Thank you, @_The_Bomb . I love these reaction posts.
_The_Bomb said:
eaglejarl said:
"The last of the seals were delivered to the Tower and the meat is being distributed, sir. Lord Hokage has reduced our debts by an amount equivalent to 60% of the market value for the meat plus the seals as of a month before the bank run. Concerns of starvation are now essentially eliminated; indeed, the civilians of Leaf are eating better than they have before and there has been a surge in employment and production."
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eaglejarl said:
"Yes sir. In even more pleasing news: Prices have recovered and things are generally back to where they were before the bank run, although there are still a large number of Tower IOUs floating around. They have in fact become another form of currency at this point."
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The QMs are never this nice to us want to deal with the economics/starvation plotlines again.
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FTFY. :>

_The_Bomb said:
I'm glad that we weren't the only one who made this mistake [of being wrong about the gender of an individual from a different species]. Though we did it to Nekkar, who might have just killed us if he(she?) was even slightly offended. When you compare that to the boss summon of the bears making this mistake our seems way worse.
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Note that it was actually one of the advisors who did that, not Kumafuwafuwa

_The_Bomb said:
Emergency cash infusion? Hazō makes a bunch of mid-tier stone art and sells them where the Merchant Council won't care. (would not be hard to just run to another city and sell them there. (also, damn, the Merchant Council restriction is so easy to bypass and it becomes almost exclusively to Konoha's detriment)).
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Note that it took half a day for Hazō to produce that.


faflec said:
Would you like me to add said XP?
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Yes please.

Kiba said:
Yamanaka jutsu only available per contest, right?
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Correct, only available after the contest.
 
When cast at Effect 4+ (minimum required skill level: 30) fused materials count as a single object once the jutsu ends, with no delineation of where the fusion occurred, even if it was between different kinds of material. Likewise, you may smooth the material internally, eliminating internal flaws and fracture planes, thereby rendering the material stronger than when you began.
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The above is from the stoneshaping rules.
Given that it works for pure quartz, I bet we can make low quality gems into high quality ones.
Also... I think we can make a quartz-lens telescope right now
 
eaglejarl said:

Using MEW for Sculpting

There's discussion going on about whether they could use MEW to sculpt a 3D seal. There's precedent from back in the Augjev days saying that yes, you can do fine construction with it at a high enough level.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
QM post saying that you can do this at level 10: Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

Current rulings:
  1. Given sufficient levels in MEW you can use it to create sculpture, and it's not inconceivable that sufficiently detailed sculpture can be used as a 3D seal blank. Hazō has no reason to think it's possible, but he also has no reason to think it isn't.
  2. The "it needs level 10" was back in the day that skills went from 1-20. Under the new rules you need:
    1. Apprentice Earthshaper stunt
    2. Master Earthshaper stunt (yet to be defined)
    3. MEW of at least level 40. All that this gives you is the ability to create fine details at the level of what an equally-skilled sculptor could produce. It does not mean that you can create an accurate 3D seal blank, or that 3D seal blanks are possible.
    4. When making a 3D structure, you roll to see how successful (accurate, attractive, etc) you were.
  3. HDK if granite is a viable substrate for a 3D seal.
  4. Even if it *is* viable, it's still going to take some research to figure out how you would infuse such a thing. Assuming Hazō can figure that out, it will probably take a lot more chakra than is needed to infuse a 2D paper seal.
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We need to level this as a column filler skill just so that we can dab on people mid-combat by making goofy and insulting murals of them while we casually block their fireballs with it.
 
Inferno Vulpix said:
NB: If Akane's training plan passed then she now has the capacity to support 8 training blocks, but IIRC standard protocol for training plans is that you can only gain the effects of them after training finishes, meaning Akane cannot make use of Resolve 33 during this cycle.
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In the past when I've done SC math, the QMs said it was fine to use the most recently passed training plan for determining the effective Resolve score for the update. In this case, I think that means 84 XP for Akane?


[X] Training Akane: FOOM Step

Resolve 33 -> 39 (198 XP + 21 Yamanaka XP)

Save 12 XP.

This gets Akane up to the much vaunted 1.0x multiplier on her FOOM. She's locked here until she can raise a bunch of column skills or simply skip the 40s.

[X] Training Kei: FOOM Step

Resolve 36 -> 39 (77 XP + 37 Yamanaka XP)

Save 191 XP.

This also gets Kei to 1.0x FOOM. However, if we want her XP rate to go a little higher, there's...

[X] Training Kei: FOOM Step but buffer

Physique 28 -> 30 (37 XP + 22 Pangolin XP)
Resolve 36 -> 42 (200 XP + 37 Yamanaka XP)

Save 31 XP.

This gets Kei to 1.2x! (Since Resolve 40 gets her another stress box). Raising Physique is something that will need to be done anyway as Pangolin XP accumulates, and I think this is going to be a little faster than other raises. It's maybe faster than saving up XP for a skip, but only @Inferno Vulpix can confirm or deny.
 
Velorien said:
but I know of no Akimichi summoners.
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Randomly going through old stuff, sorry. Is this saying Shikamaru doesn't know of anyone who can summon Akimichi or he doesn't know of any Akimichi who could summon? It seems weird that none of them have been summoners, given that they have legendarily sized reserves.... You'd think they would be one of the first to be chosen to get a scroll. But then, the Akimichi survived the collapse, yet neither the Porc nor Condor Scroll went to any of their jounin....

This is probably noteworthy right
 
Paperclipped said:
[X] Training Kei: FOOM Step

Resolve 36 -> 39 (77 XP + 37 Yamanaka XP)

Save 191 XP.

This also gets Kei to 1.0x FOOM. However, if we want her XP rate to go a little higher, there's...

[X] Training Kei: FOOM Step but buffer

Physique 28 -> 30 (37 XP + 22 Pangolin XP)
Resolve 36 -> 42 (200 XP + 37 Yamanaka XP)

Save 31 XP.

This gets Kei to 1.2x! (Since Resolve 40 gets her another stress box). Raising Physique is something that will need to be done anyway as Pangolin XP accumulates, and I think this is going to be a little faster than other raises. It's maybe faster than saving up XP for a skip, but only @Inferno Vulpix can confirm or deny.
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I... I was about to say that these plans shouldn't be AB viable, but I double checked Kei's character sheet and she appears to have one more 30 stat than my original calculations accounted for. Maybe Alertness? I can't remember. Point is, these are AB-viable and I need to re-do my calculations, but at a glance "FOOM Step but buffer" is probably optimal.
 
Sir Stompy said:
Yeah sure, if we knew anything about optics. Note that the first lenses weren't in use IRL until the late 13th century, 200 years after MfD is set
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Mfd isn't 'set' at any specific time, really. It has a fairly similar techbase to the 1100s, but it fundamentally is a different world with different advancements. Hazou's seen Aburame glasses, it's likely he can intuit the general idea of using a lens to see far objects. Also I think there's an actual telescope merchant somewhere out there that Hazou heard about. The issue is more likely whether or not the TN is out of our reach for the smoothness and clearness we need.
 
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Mfd isn't 'set' at any specific time, really. It has a fairly similar techbase to the 1100s, but it fundamentally is a different world with different advancements. Hazou's seen Aburame glasses, it's likely he can intuit the general idea of using a lens to see far objects. Also I think there's an actual telescope merchant somewhere out there that Hazou heard about. The issue is more likely whether or not the TN is out of our reach for the smoothness and clearness we need.
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Are the Aburame glasses actual corrective lenses or eye protection? Regardless, actual telescopes weren't invented until the 1600's, and for good reason. They are far more complex than eyeglasses. There's quite an understanding of optics required to get decent magnification. Not something you can just pull out of thin air. Even if you already know about eyeglasses.
 
[X] Training Akane: FOOM Step
[X] Training Kei: FOOM Step but buffer

I don't have time tonight to get the updated paths all formally mathed out, but at this point I'm fairly certain 'FOOM Step but buffer' is optimal for Kei.
 
Sir Stompy said:
Are the Aburame glasses actual corrective lenses or eye protection? Regardless, actual telescopes weren't invented until the 1600's, and for good reason. They are far more complex than eyeglasses. There's quite an understanding of optics required to get decent magnification. Not something you can just pull out of thin air. Even if you already know about eyeglasses.
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eaglejarl said:
"Shino...with respect, there are civilians who make lenses. We had a telescope merchant come by the estate back when I was at the Chūnin Exams."

"Certainly. There are perhaps a handful of people in the Elemental Nations capable of making lenses suitable for telescopes. There are none outside of the Aburame capable of making eyeglasses. Plus, even if that were a workable strategy, you're asking for a tremendous investment of effort and manpower for something that might pay off but might not, and would definitely involve large numbers of strangers moving around the Aburame estates and potentially stealing our secrets."
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Telescopes are a thing in MfD -- they're just locked behind some ridiculous level of skill.
 
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