Oh, excellent. Something for me to burn to smoking cinders. I'll get thinking.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Oh, excellent. Something for me to burn to smoking cinders. I'll get thinking.
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imo the main reason there hasn't been immediate international outreach about this is that there's minimal credible evidence for the Dragons actually existing. Sure, Asuma could tell them the whole story and vouch for Hazou, but remember that Leaf is also the village that famously pretended to have invented Edo Tensei and resurrected all of its past heroes just to spook other nations. With no hard evidence and only the word of Leaf-nin to go off of, there's really no reason to suspect this is anything more than a Leaf ploy to buy some more peacetime to recover from its disproportionate recent losses.
Of course, there's the angle where on the off-chance Leaf is telling the truth you wouldn't want to say no, but we'd probably be looking at best at 'we'll send a summoner of our own to verify, and remain neutral on this matter until then'. At least, assuming the village in question has a summoner and can verify things for themselves.
This of course doesn't mean it'll hurt to try it anyways, and indeed Asuma may have reached out to our allies or something, but it's definitely a lot sketchier than the BotG where all of the major villages had personally experienced a Jinchuuriki kidnapping at the hands of the Akatsuki and were running their own top priority investigations.
Still, I'm up for proposing it to Asuma, as long as we make sure we don't sound treasonous when we do so. The last thing we want is to look like we're about to do a treason and/or criminally stupid and for Asuma to consequently stop trusting us to handle the mission, after all.
Thunder does, with a forbidden thinker bloodline, and Hazou has sent a message in the past, and their leader owes their life to Leaf keeping its word- perhaps we could send another message, with details, this time with Hokage approval?
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Remember back when Jiraiya said that if Ami just wanted to marry Hazou, it would be easier/safer for her if she just went to him, the Goketsu Clan Head, about it (rather than, apparently, playing games with Hazou)?
Does this mean that we'll start getting betrothal requests for Haru and Kagome?
Does this mean that we'll start getting betrothal requests for Haru and Kagome?
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*Crosses fingers*
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If you were FDR and you discovered a massive global problem that America plausibly but not certainly had the resources to deal with, would you have invited Stalin over for the party?
Stalin: Can I come to your party?
FDR: No.
Stalin: Awww....
*Stalin inserts spies anyway*
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Haven't we established that a lot of urbanites are farmers?
While an amusing thought, we should probably pray it never happens. Kagome would asses an invitation to romance as some kind of Eldritch horror and address it as he would a cheerfully friendly stalking bean wielding leaves full of malfunctioning seals.
Ha. Ha ha ha. *Cackling in previously ignored warnings in previous quests*
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But... What would the barrier to this be? Compulsory means less productivity, so get volunteers or make it attractive enough to make volunteers viable (away from Leaf means away from systemic oppression, for example). What dangers would prevent this from occuring?
I mean, obviously there's a skill/knowledge gap about how to actually farm, what crops to farm during what times, and the unique dangers to farming in a magical deathworld setting... But the first two are temporary problems that I feel could be resolved by bringing along more experienced farmers in with the newbies and allowing the newbies to gain experience while protected by their more senior farmers and the resources of a clan, while the third issue seems like it could be solved with the investment of resources provided by a Clan to their new farmland (MEW walls, semi-regular chakra beast culling in the surrounding area, fertilization jutsu, sealed stores of firewood and food for winters, force-wall-axes as tools, etc).
I agree with the notion of "this seems like a fairly obvious solution, so what keeps it from being put in to practice?" But unless there's an additional problem I'm not noticing (completely possible, I'm not the most observant person in the world), I feel like the dangers with moving (volunteer) urbanites to farms should be readily (though perhaps not easily) resolved by the resources invested by a clan in the farmland itself.
Edit: word choice and grammar to enhance clarity of intent
Edit 2: Maybe the social stigma/oppression/abuse of civilians within Leaf doesn't outweigh the dangers of living outside of Leaf? Or at least, this could be the case for most of the civilian population, and those few that aren't the case either leave for a Hamlet (after all, Leaf doesn't track civilian immigration/emigration) or aren't numerous enough to found a farming town.
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Yes, a bunch of people inside the walls of Leaf are farmers, but that's because Leaf was deliberately built on some incredibly fruitful farmland. It wouldn't be a net gain to send Leaf's farmers out into the countryside.
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Ah, so you're saying that the time and resource investment to make a farming village successful would take long enough that the economic situation would likely be (mostly?) resolved by the time the land was made viable enough for farming (clearing, fertilization, defenses, etc), and would this defeat the purpose of being a stopgap solution?
Mostly that subsistence farming is a highly skilled profession and they don't know how to do it. They'll starve. This has been tried a few times IRL, mostly under brutal communist dictatorships who didn't value bourgeoise things like doctors and lawyers. Those people mostly died or never produced enough crops to be worth it. That's without the deathworld part. I don't think this is a good idea.
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I think it's more that most of the starving poor people are already farmers on land as safe and productive as you could possibly hope for, and taking farmers away from good farmland to bad farmland doesn't increase Fire's food production.
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The problem is that we don't really know what motivates them. (We also never asked Tsunade if we can use her as an argument, pretty sure that gets people put in the hospital, good that Hazou is already there).
Their heir kicked out Yuno and gave up the opportunity to actually see what a "barbarian" medic can actually do, so that one isn't really curious and probably pretty conservative. If the whole clan is like that than they will more likely side with the High priest, especially if Arikada made some negative comments about Leaf or Tsunade specifically. Something like: "Tsunade is a well known violent drunkard, do you really want to learn from a women like that?"
And the clan isn't really politically powerful (from what we know):
- They weren't on the council
- Takahashi didn't even mention them when he talked to Keiko last time
- No Murasaki was present at the dinner
So the Murasaki are probably just trying not to get involved with anything that makes them even less relevant, especially if Arikada and his allies can offer medical stuff or even replace them.
Even the Kannagi (who were on the council and were part of the original Pro-open group) have to work to get their reputation back, because of Yuno, but still:
Asuma is threatening us for the stuff we did, if Azai is really that dangerous (and both Takahashi and Yoshida are careful inside their own clan compound) than they really don't want to piss him off. And allying with Takahashi and us against him is what we want.
So convincing the clan to join us and to go against Azai probably needs more than a promise that Tsunade and some shinies are worth the risk.
Asking Tsunade might work, maybe she can give us something more than her textbooks? Or maybe they want something completely different.
If that problem is an X-risk, then yes, probably?
"Hey Stalin, there are invading aliens who want to blow up the planet, and we can only maybe fend them off on our own. You might consider helping with this."
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I don't think Keiko's legal conspiracy has advanced quite that far yet. The age gap is quite sizeable as well.
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well hasn't it only been like a week since we learned about the dragons? (Not 100% sure cause of timeline weirdness)
So their just hasn't been enough time for the gears of Bureaucracy to turn. This would be a perfect opportunity for Hazo to get some diplo experience since it's not safe for him to do seal work.
edit: better question is why we haven't gotten confirmation that all the allied summon bosses have been informed
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Of course he would, that's exactly what happened in WW2.
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"Hey Stalin, my country isn't at war yet, but I've noticed you're at war with a country even more horrible than your own oppressive and mass murder-y regime. Here, have some guns and ships, I totally trust you to pay us back later."
"Hey Stalin, my country's at war with the stinkers now. Uhhh, thanks for keeping over half their army busy while we fight them on the Western Front.
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Way too much faith in humanity.
Hahaha, "half".
Only at war because he was attacked first, refused to let his army defend itself, had eliminated the entirety of its command talent in paranoid purges, and spent a decade co-developing a military doctrine with his aggressors while using his Siberian railway to be a critical supplier of strategic materials for them right up until after the moment they started using them to hurt him.
Oh, and then there's the East Asian Front. The less said about that the better.
I'd like to say, "Stalin was not a nice man", but that might be tapdancing a bit too close to the edge for this website.
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[X] Action Plan: Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes
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- Write birthday letter for Mari. Ensure Goketsu birthday gifts reach her.
- Whatever else, Team Uplift loves and cares for Mari's wellbeing. They know the feeling's mutual.
- Hazou's frequently told Mari he believes she's changed... but maybe that's not what she needed to hear.
- Changing is an ongoing process. If Mari's unsatisfied with where she is, she needs to ask herself: Where is she going?
- What's Mari's ideal version of herself? How can she work to become her? It's okay to fall short, if we genuinely continue to work towards it. (Mirthful) If she needs help making a list of goals, Hazou can assist.
- Hazou frequently thinks about the Sunset Racer. Regardless of circumstances, he does not feel absolved, perhaps never will. All he can do is try his hardest to build a world where no one needs to commit the same sins.
- Mari's had a longer career, committed more sins. How does she feel about them? What's she gonna do about it? Grief/guilt can be useful, but they shouldn't blind us to ongoing injustice when we have the power to stop it.
- Changing is an ongoing process. If Mari's unsatisfied with where she is, she needs to ask herself: Where is she going?
- Snowflake
- Invite Arikada to an easier hunt, have Noburi refill early on.
- Ask what Arikada wants. Research? Prestige? Jutsu?
- What does he think of Leaf?
- Is he satisfied with the state of Isan? What would he change, if he could?
- Invite Arikada to an easier hunt, have Noburi refill early on.
- Other (Offscreen)
- Ask Snowflake if she is okay with confirming that the spicy bug makes her pop, verify if yes.
- Have Keiko ask what Yuno thinks it would take to get the Gasai and the Kannagi to oppose the High Priest.
- How do they feel about Yuno? How do they feel about Yuno's marriage to Leaf?
- Do their clans gain prestige from the High Priest's regime?
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Ooh, what's this a reference to? I knew that Russia had a doctrine of Deep War that sounded similar to the Blitzkrieg, but I didn't think they had collaborated with anyone to develop it.