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We didn't, but he's going to be pissy that the clan ninja/treason dragon is going to be getting the scroll. As opposed to, say, Akane.

I don't know if he would, I think for all of his grumbling he seems to respect the chain of command (thank you, indoctrination Will of Fire), so even if he did we should still be able to work with him.

But even if not? So what?

We don't owe the guy anything. At all. He already benefitted tremendously from joining the Goketsu and while I can appreciate Hazou being the sort of clan head that doesn't bullheadedly does only what he thinks is right, Haru still has to earn our loyalty.

When Akane, Noburi, Kagome, Mari or Keiko tell us something we listen. Because we know them. We know they are reliable.

Haru isn't there yet. And while I look forward to seeing his character development unfold, if he were to disappear right now I wouldn't shed a tear for the person he is right now.
 
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[x] Action Plan: It's the Plan From Before That Needs Finishing Please Vote for This Otherwise Its Kinda Awkward To Not Haha (Taking Edit Suggestions)

In the vein of 'things from the plan from before that need finishing otherwise it's kinda awkard to not haha', we also have that talk with Akane Hazou resolutely set out to do after the convo with Mari and which weeks have passed without another word about it.
 
[x] Action Plan: It's the Plan From Before That Needs Finishing Please Vote for This Otherwise Its Kinda Awkward To Not Haha (Taking Edit Suggestions)

In the vein of 'things from the plan from before that need finishing otherwise it's kinda awkard to not haha', we also have that talk with Akane Hazou resolutely set out to do after the convo with Mari and which weeks have passed without another word about it.

I'm sort of unsure as to how to go about wording this.

Maybe quote the relevant section (or link) and say "Have Hazou go do that thing. Be Hazou about it." ?
 
I'm sort of unsure as to how to go about wording this.

Maybe quote the relevant section (or link) and say "Have Hazou go do that thing. Be Hazou about it." ?
I think this was the part of the plan we're referring to?
Akane introspection
  • Take time to think about re-igniting the relationship with Akane.
  • Akane didn't just break up with Hazou due to agency issues. She also mentioned:
    • The imbalance of power between them
    • Wanting to be her own person, not just an extension of Hazou's will
  • Akane claimed Hazou has changed. Has he changed enough to invalidate these reasons? He's gained even more power over her since.
  • Rethinks what Hazou knows about Akane, from the beginning
    • She's strong, bright, optimistic, and never falters. It wasn't always so, though, according to her.
    • She yearns for purpose and dedicates herself to causes - Youth, being Hazou's apprentice, the team, Uplift, Leaf. She almost killed herself not wanting to slow you down. She's desperately, unreasonably loyal.
    • It's a bit sad, put like that. As if she herself, and her own life, always matter less. When Hazou originally confessed his feelings, she responded by saying she wasn't good enough for him. How can she be so bright and strong, yet value herself so little?
    • Being together again can only be as equals. Hazou needs to see Akane as a person with agency. But she needs to see herself as valuable and worthy. Like with Keiko, agency is a two-way street.
  • What was she going to say, before leaving for the tournament finals? How'd Akane become Tsunade's apprentice anyway? Maybe ask Mari, somehow you have a bad feeling about this.
 
I'm sort of unsure as to how to go about wording this.

Maybe quote the relevant section (or link) and say "Have Hazou go do that thing. Be Hazou about it." ?


I just edited this in:


Have words with Akane.
  • "She was Akane," Mari said resignedly. "You said it yourself. To her, her life is worth less than other people's."

    "This is unacceptable," Hazō growled. "Thanks for all the advice, Mari. You're absolutely right. Akane and I need to have words."
    • Go do that. Be Hazou about it.
 
Something like this:
Much better! Thank you.

Unfortunately I quite like the forbidden lore stuff and it all sort of needs to be in there for the conversation to make sense.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Does anyone want to have a post-contest bulletpoint. Something something "Celebrate." something something scroll allocation something something tell Haru to quit bitching (Yknow kid, you were going to be the porcupine summoner...)
 
Much better! Thank you.

Unfortunately I quite like the forbidden lore stuff and it all sort of needs to be in there for the conversation to make sense.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Does anyone want to have a post-contest bulletpoint. Something something "Celebrate." something something scroll allocation something something tell Haru to quit bitching (Yknow kid, you were going to be the porcupine summoner...)
I'll say yes to that.

Edit: But seriously, yes, let's do that thing.
 
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I'll say yes to that.
Hows this?

  • Post-contest:
    • Celebrate.
      • Thank everyone who made it possible.. Every clan member and resident did something to help.
    • Scroll allocation (done privately with the clan).
      • Inform everyone. [See: In-thread vote.]
      • It was a tough choice, but ultimately you believe your decision is the best for the clan and for Leaf.
      • We're probably going to have to pull the 'Clan Head" card on that point.
      • We'll listen to any concerns or grievances though, if anyone has them?
      • Ask after preferences on one of the other currently free scrolls?
      • Ok We'll try to get you those.
        • Tone: As if you're discussing which groceries to pick up for them.
 
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  • It was a tough choice between yourself, Akane, or Haru. Ultimately you believe your decision is the best for the clan and for Leaf.
  • Ease Haru's inevitable bitching: Sorry, man. Do you have a preference on one of the other currently free scrolls? We'll get you that one.
    • Tone: As if you're discussing which groceries to pick up for him.
    • It's a shame too, you were seriously thinking he'd be an excellent fit for the Porcupines. But uh... yeah...
Let's not be preemptive when dealing with Haru. I'd say we should explain our reasoning: Akane is to learn SC in order to help Kagome so learning Summoning would distract from that; Haru _______.
 
Haru's frankly not been with us long enough to be taken care of in the same way Akane is, but actually saying that is not to be done.
 
See the blank is the major problem there. What do?

Haru "is a massive child"?

Haru "can't get over himself and doesn't follow orders."?

Haru "would be the Porcupine summoner right now if he got off his high horse for five minutes when we got back"?
 
Group meeting: Mari, Kagome, Noburi, Akane, Keiko, Yuno, Haru. Security: high. Continue the Group meeting
  • (Confirm with Mari/Keiko whether sharing information about BotG with Yuno is acceptable beforehand.) Confirm OPSEC concerns beforehand Yuno came to the meeting, so i assume it's not needed?
  • Introduction:
    • Team Uplift's goal is to dramatically improve the living conditions of everyone in the world. So far, we've been focused on opposing and reshaping our civilization's self-destructive systems. That remains the main Our priority.
    • But, as several recent events showed, the problem runs deeper: reality itself is fragile. Pain's plan was world-ending. Whatever his intentions were, the fact that a world-altering event on this scale can actually happen is terrifying. For you, it threw into stark relief some of the fundamental truths glimpsed by Sealing.
    • The truth is, deliberate human actions aren't even necessary. Reality is keen on tearing itself apart on its own. The damage from that is often catastrophic, and could be arbitrarily large. Worse still are the things that lurk outside, and occasionally seep through these tears: horrors of unfathomable power and malice, some of which can casually snuff out our entire universe.
    • It's a terrible truth. We're meant to be cowed by it, stuck helpless with fear — the same way we're meant to be resigned to the EN's system of violence. As far as you're concerned, that is merely more of the same nothing changes: another terrible thing we'll need to eventually fix.
    • And while directly working on it is far above our current pay gradeIt's currently above our pay grade, it doesn't mean we can't gather information.
  • We have a large selection of leads we could pursue, but we should focus on Pain is the most salient one: Pain.
    • Points of discussion:
      • Pain/Rinnegan's nature and powers.
      • The ritual's purpose.
      • "The Five, still sealed after a thousand years of sacrifice".
      • The fate of the lost bijuu.
      • The bird summon — an archaeopteryx?
    • Provide Kagome with the detailed description of the ritual site, ask for his analysis.
    • Yuno: Perhaps there's something relevant in Isan's cultural knowledge?

I tried to reduce the word-count on the plan without changing the meaning.
It should be 274 words more or less.
Here's the final result:

Continue the Group meeting
  • Confirm OPSEC concerns beforehand
  • Introduction:
    • Team Uplift's goal is to improve the living conditions of everyone in the world. we've been focused on opposing and reshaping our civilization's self-destructive systems. That remains our priority.
    • But the problem runs deeper: reality itself is fragile. Pain's plan was world-ending. Whatever his intentions were, the fact that a world-altering event on this scale can actually happen is terrifying. For you, it threw into stark relief some of the fundamental truths glimpsed by Sealing.
    • deliberate human actions aren't even necessary. Reality is keen on tearing itself apart on its own. The damage from that is often catastrophic, and could be arbitrarily large. Worse still are the things that lurk outside, and occasionally seep through these tears: horrors of unfathomable power and malice, some of which can casually snuff out our entire universe.
    • It's a terrible truth. We're meant to be cowed by it, stuck helpless with fear — the same way we're meant to be resigned to the EN's system of violence. As far as you're concerned, nothing changes: another terrible thing we'll need to eventually fix.
    • It's currently above our pay grade, it doesn't mean we can't gather information.
  • We have a large selection of leads we could pursue, but Pain is the most salient one.
    • Points of discussion:
      • Pain/Rinnegan's nature and powers.
      • The ritual's purpose.
      • "The Five, still sealed after a thousand years of sacrifice".
      • The fate of the lost bijuu.
      • The bird summon — an archaeopteryx?
    • Provide Kagome with the detailed description of the ritual site, ask for his analysis.
    • Yuno: Perhaps there's something relevant in Isan's cultural knowledge?
 
@MMKII

Please don't add anything regarding Haru. It's possible there isn't anything to preempt anyway, and if there is I'd rather hear his "arguments" first in the update or just let Hazou handle it.
 
[X] Training Akane: Yama-not gonna pass this up
[X] Training Noburi: Yama-not gonna pass this up
[X] Training Hazou: Yama-not gonna pass this up
[X] Training Keiko: Yama-not gonna pass this up
 
See the blank is the major problem there. What do?

Haru "is a massive child"?

Haru "can't get over himself and doesn't follow orders."?

Haru "would be the Porcupine summoner right now if he got off his high horse for five minutes when we got back"?
*shrugs* Honestly, I'd prefer Haru get the scroll since Hazou and Akane are both FOOMing and are gonna have their XP/time full.
 
*shrugs* Honestly, I'd prefer Haru get the scroll since Hazou and Akane are both FOOMing and are gonna have their XP/time full.

Why do you trust him with such a huge investment though? We barely know the guy, and what we know is that he is more loyal to the Hokage than Hazou.
 
@MMKII

Please don't add anything regarding Haru. It's possible there isn't anything to preempt anyway, and if there is I'd rather hear his "arguments" first in the update or just let Hazou handle it.
Let's not be preemptive when dealing with Haru. I'd say we should explain our reasoning: Akane is to learn SC in order to help Kagome so learning Summoning would distract from that; Haru _______.
How dis:

Hows this?

  • Post-contest:
    • Celebrate.
      • Thank everyone who made it possible.. Every clan member and resident did something to help.
    • Scroll allocation (done privately with the clan).
      • Inform everyone. [See: In-thread vote.]
      • It was a tough choice between yourself, Akane, or Haru. Ultimately you believe your decision is the best for the clan and for Leaf.
      • We're probably going to have to pull the 'Clan Head" card on that point.
      • We'll listen to any concerns or grievances though, if anyone has them?
      • Ask after preferences on one of the other currently free scrolls?
      • Ok We'll try to get you those.
        • Tone: As if you're discussing which groceries to pick up for them.


I tried to reduce the word-count on the plan without changing the meaning.
Wow, thanks! Implemented. Do you want to vote for it as well? If not, that's fine. Appreciate it.
 
It was a tough choice between yourself, Akane, or Haru. Ultimately you believe your decision is the best for the clan and for Leaf.

I'd cut this entirely or at least the Haru portion.

We shouldn't need to lie about this decision and we shouldn't give him any wrong expectations. If he has issues with our leadership, I'd rather find out now and deal with them instead of when it boils over at a worse time.

He really hasn't earned our trust or loyalty yet.

E: Remember his reaction when we disclosed how Iron Nerve works to him? He was already surprised we trust him enough to do that. He doesn't need something ridiculous as a scroll on top of it to... buy his loyalty? I honestly don't get why he was even considered in the first place.

You don't hand someone you barely know a summoning scroll, that's just insane in my opinion.
 
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Clarified the meeting a bit since EJ felt it was just vague talky stuff (which it is, sort of, but its important to have these from time to time with NPCs so that they aren't all Shocked Pikachu about things we wish to do.)

@MMKII

Please don't add anything regarding Haru. It's possible there isn't anything to preempt anyway, and if there is I'd rather hear his "arguments" first in the update or just let Hazou handle it.
Hows this:



[x] Action Plan: It's the Plan From Before That Needs Finishing Please Vote for This Otherwise Its Kinda Awkward To Not Haha (Taking Edit Suggestions)
Word count: 395
  • Continue the Group meeting
    • Point: establish context with Team Uplift and friends, clarify the additional long term Team goal to everyone.
    • Deal with OPSEC concerns beforehand.
    • Introduction:
      • Team Uplift's goal is to improve the living conditions of everyone in the world. we've been focused on opposing and reshaping our civilization's self-destructive systems. That remains our priority.
      • But the problem runs deeper: reality itself is fragile. Pain's plan was world-ending. Whatever his intentions were, the fact that a world-altering event on this scale can actually happen is terrifying. For you, it threw into stark relief some of the fundamental truths glimpsed by Sealing.
      • deliberate human actions aren't even necessary. Reality is keen on tearing itself apart on its own. The damage from that is often catastrophic, and could be arbitrarily large. Worse still are the things that lurk outside, and occasionally seep through these tears: horrors of unfathomable power and malice, some of which can casually snuff out our entire universe.
      • It's a terrible truth. We're meant to be cowed by it, stuck helpless with fear — the same way we're meant to be resigned to the EN's system of violence. As far as you're concerned, nothing changes: another terrible thing we'll need to eventually fix.
      • It's currently above our pay grade, it doesn't mean we can't gather information.
    • We have a large selection of leads we could pursue, but Pain is the most salient one.
      • Points of discussion:
        • Pain/Rinnegan's nature and powers.
        • The ritual's purpose.
        • "The Five, still sealed after a thousand years of sacrifice".
        • The fate of the lost bijuu.
        • The bird summon — an archaeopteryx?
      • What does Kagome think of the ritual? Sealing arrays?
      • Yuno: Perhaps there's something relevant in Isan's cultural knowledge?
  • Have words with Akane.
  • Post-contest:​
    • Celebrate.
      • Thank everyone who made it possible.. Every clan member and resident did something to help.
    • Scroll allocation (done privately with the clan).
      • Inform everyone. [See: In-thread vote.]
      • It was a tough choice, but ultimately you believe your decision is the best for the clan and for Leaf.
      • We're probably going to have to pull the 'Clan Head" card on that point.
      • We'll listen to any concerns or grievances though, if anyone has them?
      • Ask after preferences on one of the other currently free scrolls?
      • Ok.We'll try to get you those.
        • Tone: As if you're discussing which groceries to pick up for them.
 
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