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Time to pray to the Dark Lord then.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Time to pray to the Dark Lord then.
I think there is something wrong with your tally. Although it makes no difference since the winning plan is the same. The tally should be
9 people have voted
Action Plan: An Abomination of A Plan
9 people have voted
Training Plan Hazou: Anemic No More
8 people have voted
Action Plan: Swamp RnR
8 people have voted
Action Plan: Goketsu beach party
5 people have voted
Action Plan: Incremental Progress
4 people have voted
Action Plan: Squeezing More Out of the Orange
1 people have voted
Investigate the shack
1 people have voted
Action Plan: Swamp Night
1 people have voted
Declare that all responses and rebuttals and remarks to the effect of "But that's illegal!" are themselves illegal.
Action Plan: An Abomination of A Plan
9 people have voted
Training Plan Hazou: Anemic No More
8 people have voted
Action Plan: Swamp RnR
8 people have voted
Action Plan: Goketsu beach party
5 people have voted
Action Plan: Incremental Progress
4 people have voted
Action Plan: Squeezing More Out of the Orange
1 people have voted
Investigate the shack
1 people have voted
Action Plan: Swamp Night
1 people have voted
Declare that all responses and rebuttals and remarks to the effect of "But that's illegal!" are themselves illegal.
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I think the training plan was from the last voting cycle?
Emstar
The Shining One
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We generally tally from the last update IIRC. This has small annoyances but I think its slightly beneficial overall.
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Spreading LOVE and buying pokerface:
Of the four stunts made available to us by our extradimensional trauma, three of them are inextricable from Sealing as a skill, and thus useless for anyone who is not both a Kurosawa and a Sealmaster. Hazou happens to be both of those, so there's no problem with any of the stunts for us, but some other Kurosawa like Shin would find Summoning Scroll Acolyte, Insight From Beyond, and Prophet of the Out worthless to him.
But there is a fourth: Lens of Violence, and the only thing that's tied to is TYS points and CQC combat stats. And we all know how much the Kurosawa love their punching. It seems to me like we could strike a bargain with Ren: we make Kurosawa punch better and she gives us permission to learn Iron Nerve Socials.
The prerequisites for this plan are as such:
The final complication in this scheme is providing the means for Kurosawa to learn LOVE, i.e. getting a Summoning Scroll and a Kurosawa in the same room together for a few minutes. While it's possible that they could find another scroll in Mist, it would be unbecoming to not provide our own, which brings in other people and possible security concerns.
Of the four stunts made available to us by our extradimensional trauma, three of them are inextricable from Sealing as a skill, and thus useless for anyone who is not both a Kurosawa and a Sealmaster. Hazou happens to be both of those, so there's no problem with any of the stunts for us, but some other Kurosawa like Shin would find Summoning Scroll Acolyte, Insight From Beyond, and Prophet of the Out worthless to him.
But there is a fourth: Lens of Violence, and the only thing that's tied to is TYS points and CQC combat stats. And we all know how much the Kurosawa love their punching. It seems to me like we could strike a bargain with Ren: we make Kurosawa punch better and she gives us permission to learn Iron Nerve Socials.
The prerequisites for this plan are as such:
- We must have already taken Lens of Violence to as to know of the potential for this offer IC, as well as to demonstrate it.
- We must have a secure line of contact with Ren, either direct or indirect.
- We must propose the idea of the exchange to Ren.
- We must prove the value of LOVE to Ren.
- We must be willing and able to provide the means to teach the Kurosawa LOVE.
The final complication in this scheme is providing the means for Kurosawa to learn LOVE, i.e. getting a Summoning Scroll and a Kurosawa in the same room together for a few minutes. While it's possible that they could find another scroll in Mist, it would be unbecoming to not provide our own, which brings in other people and possible security concerns.
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With Summoning Scroll Acolyte getting Hazou some levels in MedKnw/Medjutsu is a lot cheaper than getting Noburi high in all of them.
We really need to talk to Kabuto after getting that crazy stunt.
We really need to talk to Kabuto after getting that crazy stunt.
Emstar
The Shining One
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Why would it be cheaper?
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Fine, not cheaper, but quicker. Noburi needs to learn Sealing and level it.
Emstar
The Shining One
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I still don't understand why that would help.
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Do you think that Biosealing is just one of the stats? I kind of doubt it, but that's why I said we should talk to Kabuto.
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
Sorry, I am clearly too uncaffeinated. I misunderstood what you were saying entirely.
Yeah, I think BioSealing is just MedKnow + Sealing in combination, functionally speaking. It would be weird if it was its own separate thing and was still Sealing.
It should be noted that while it has been stated that accessing Leaf's knowledge about biosealing requires the hokage's permission due to it being highly classified, developing the discipline anew yourself does not require accessing classified information.
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And I'm not sure the MedKnow even has to be Hazou's. It's quite possible that Hazou and Noburi could team up with Noubri telling Hazou all the medical nuances the seal has to attend to while Hazou scribes a seal that does that.
Emstar
The Shining One
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That's a good point. I think having a decent amount of working knowledge might be good for understanding though? You have to explain to the Eldritch Programmer what the Eldritch Script needs to do so that he can cook it up, sorta thing.
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Probably depends on what you want to do.
Examples:
Seal that makes you a cannibal: high sealing > high med
Octocat: high med stuff > sealing
Suicide head bomb: med > sealing
I mean explosive seals are really simple, just make them go boom when your chakra runs dry.
It's why I would hope ESP seals would be:
Sealing > Medknow
Examples:
Seal that makes you a cannibal: high sealing > high med
Octocat: high med stuff > sealing
Suicide head bomb: med > sealing
I mean explosive seals are really simple, just make them go boom when your chakra runs dry.
It's why I would hope ESP seals would be:
Sealing > Medknow
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I think that we have fundamentally different opinions on our capabilities and goals in dealing with the Iron Yakuza. Our current force projection is an S-ranker, 2 seal masters and a almost joinin. This is more firepower than anyone will have. Also Hazō Akane and Kagome are all now much more capable than Minami, Noburi, and Hazō where when we fought the Yakuza. At the same time Iron is one of the poorest countries. The Yakuza here have no ninjas to support them and limited funds to recruit missing nin. The balance of power is firmly in our corner by a large amount
on top of that we do not have time to slow play the Iron Yakuza. We will be in the country for days at most. Also as village nin we can't really afford to do work for them. Since we can not develop a relationship over time with them our only option if we want something out of them is an explosive and dramatic move. Think of it as the same strategy Jiariya did when he recruited us. Show them that you can crush them but have no desire actually to. Once that is established we are in a strong enough negotiating position to force them to our will
honestly if we aren't willing to flex super hard on the IronYakuza we probably shouldn't bother with them
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Thank you, @eaglejarl ! I appreciate your post.
I don't think I'll be an active participant, but will try to read plans and vote for them.
I really enjoy this quest (sure you got it already), except the wedding scene (its alienness caused chill down my spine (as, most likely, it was intended)).
By the way, I've got some questions:
- Is there any compilation of players known information about grue? Search in thread gave me ~450 posts.
- If there is no such compilation, do players know why henge disappeared? Did players find a terrible way to abuse it, which could only be removed together with the ability itself, or what happened was not caused by players at all? If second variant is true, then chance that one day Hazo wakes up without Sealing (just like gliders) is disturbing.
- Do I understand correctly that ability disappeared with all XP spent on it?
- Was it explained anywhere, why and wherefrom Kagome had such excellent skill with henge? That skill wasn't in his area of expertise. Hazo, after all, lost his ability to ask about that irrevocably (or did he?).
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The QMs found it perpetually frustrating and tough to work with and wished they had never included it in the setting, so we voted to let the QMs feed Henge to a grue. When we break something, generally the QMs either change the way it works if the world doesn't make sense with that exploit (like what happened with substitution nukes) or let us have it (like with skywalkers and SINs), so don't worry that the QMs will slap us down if we start figuring out OP things.
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What? But before the most recent interlude didn't eaglejarl say something about counting votes from the non-interlude update?
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XP was refunded; removing the skill simply returned it all in the google doc. That was ages ago, though, so that xp is long spent. There was greater chaos when we switched to the Fate system.
No. Presumably it was a side effect of his personality - not much better ways to hide and get out of danger than henge.
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@OliWhail did some calculations on this that I agreed with, except that I think visibility radius should be 10m instead of 30m given the density of the forests. That's still under discussion, though. If you run those calculations again with 10m visibility then the actual final answer will probably lie somewhere between that answer and Oli's answer, inclusive. Note that I say probably, because we reserve the right to change things if we realize we missed a factor.
Out of curiosity, do you literally want to have concrete recipes showing up onscreen, or is that a metaphor for wanting to see more civil engineering?
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I really don't want to have to figure out how to make that happen. Please give some direction.
You did.
Here's a refutation of it.
Ninja can run 20mph for long distances so that they can indeed run 100-150 miles per day, but not for more than a day or three in a row. Team Uplift are an exception because Noburi's ability to refresh them chakra allows them to extend their endurance. Jiraiya and some other very high-powered ninja were/are also exceptions because they're just that badass.
It would depend on who caught you. In Hazō's opinion, an ISC group probably would be surprised but not care or tell anyone outside of ISC. Someone else would probably pass word to Hiashi which could cause you issues.
Sounds like being active to me. :>
Not that I'm aware of. The answers, however, are:
Doylist: As @Inferno_Vulpix said, henge was a PITA for the QMs and we found ourselves wishing that we'd never allowed it in the game. The players said "go ahead and delete it" so we did.
Watsonian: So far as has been shown onscreen, Kagome is the only person in the entire world who remembers that henge ever existed. OOC I will add that written records have either vanished or been redacted such that there's no way to learn of its existence from writings.
More OOC knowledge, although it's been shown onscreen: There is some force / entity / something ("the grue") that actively prevents people from rediscovering henge. When Hazō was thinking along lines that would have brought him to remember henge, he became distracted. When he kept trying he ended up suffering a minor mishap (hot tea spilled on his hand and mildly burned him). Kagome made clear that these issues will escalate if people keep trying to push through them.
The original idea was that the grue would be an actual discoverable part of the universe and a plot driver going forward. @Velorien decided he did not like that idea, so the grue has been determined to be undiscoverable. No matter what anyone tries, the grue can escalate far enough to defeat their efforts and prevent them from remembering / rediscovering henge. There is therefore no point in pursuing the issue.
Respectively: No, true, he did.
For that specific update, yes. The default is that we count from the latest threadmark. In part this is so that there's a consistent rule and in part it's so that the QMs don't have to remember to check whether the previous update was an interlude or not.
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@Velorien has once again been despooned, so I'm handling tomorrow. Might be the chapter, might be another interlude. As a result, I'm looking at the plan for the first time.
@faflec or anyone, I am confused about this part:
EDIT: After looking over the code that @OliWhail posted and running it again with a 10m visibility radius, I get 60 hours of running. It's winter (short days) and cold so I'm going to say that between fighting, eating, and pitching/breaking camp you can get about 5 hours of traveling in per day. That's 12 days to do the entire circuit. This is my tentative ruling unless Oli or someone else wants to debate it.
@faflec or anyone, I am confused about this part:
The rift was sealed up inside a bunch of MEW. Are you suggesting that you want to crack the walls and see what's inside?
EDIT: After looking over the code that @OliWhail posted and running it again with a 10m visibility radius, I get 60 hours of running. It's winter (short days) and cold so I'm going to say that between fighting, eating, and pitching/breaking camp you can get about 5 hours of traveling in per day. That's 12 days to do the entire circuit. This is my tentative ruling unless Oli or someone else wants to debate it.
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