If we assume Naruto just gave up his entire liquid cash, divide by 0.05 and we get 400,000,000 million ryo.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
If we assume Naruto just gave up his entire liquid cash, divide by 0.05 and we get 400,000,000 million ryo.
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I imagine more cynical civilians consider "destruction of settlements by chakra beasts" and "destruction of settlements by ninja" to be redundant statements.
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Gotta stab fast
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Do civilians know how to keep the soil fertile? Or is that another issue for them? Overfarming?
They practiced crop rotation.
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It feels like we just got our allowance.
Huh, maybe Jaraiya always knew the Pangolin deal was an emergency stopgap and could be discontinued without financial concern once the Chunin Exam was over and we got Naruto back (and, frankly, probably even if we didn't since Jaraiya would have likely been Naruto's heir).
Also, it could effectively be viewed as a QM hint to stop worrying about money and to get on with doing stuff with that money, which I think literally everyone involved is happy to do.
(Yes, I know there were extensive discussions as to Naruto's inheritance, but I think the QMs always expected Jaraiya's clan to be fairly well off, even without our special economic efforts.)
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Mfw someone says "Hey, I read The Two Year Emperor!"
Mfw they say that and then add "...back in high school."
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Mfw someone says "Hey, I read The Two Year Emperor!"
Mfw they say that and then add "...back in high school."
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Actually, no. We expected and wanted you to be poor, especially after Jiraiya's death. Sadly, the numbers do not support it.
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Did they graduate last month?
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I did not ask, because I was afraid of the answer.
You're talking about Jaraiya, Jiraiya's long lost cousin from oversea who coincidentally have a summon contract with a different Pangolin clan.
Slash-and-burn farming is probably less practical when the flora slashes and burns back.
Don't worry. I have plenty of lucrative plans to be completely ignored.
Noumero
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Same as before.
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Shit shit shit shit shit. She's used truth lost in the fog so many times since we last checked that her eye color looped back around. We're all gonna die.
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No no no, we are in fact already dead. The last 250+ Chapters have just been a stream of consciousness as we die horribly in the swamp. Grue is just our dying brain slowly failing.
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Nah, Hazou is just colourblind. She's flipped back and forth between red and brown like 30 times without him noticing.
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Gotta stab fast
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You know, we can't even ask about her eyes as that would mean admitting we never noticed an inconsistency with her and she'll be Dissapointed in us. We gotta be a 'better ninja' guys.
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We did notice the inconsistency and called it out months ago; Mari deflected us.
Also, being Disappointed in us isn't a good enough excuse to do nothing here.
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail I'm a bit confused with the current state of the timeline and wonder if you can help me out: Chapter 271 was supposed to be on Jan 6 as stated in its Action Plan, and in it we plan to have dinner with Snake tomorrow evening (the 7th) and meetings with Ino, Chouza, and Asuma the day after tomorrow (the 8th). But this is inconsistent with the action plan allocations, which has those meetings shifted back a day.
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+2 XP if someone else figures it out
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I mean, maybe just shift the action slot allocations back one day? That would fit it with what's been show according to the plans and story.
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Can you guys add to this to your queue? It may be needed to answer further questions using the mission pay chart.
Can you guys add to this to your queue? It may be needed to answer further questions using the mission pay chart.
- Mission pay.
- 500-2k for D rank (genin/genin teams learning to cooperate. Not meant to survive on.)
- 5k-20k for C rank (genin squads/single chuunin. Missions outside the village with minimal real combat expected)
- 50-200k for B rank (chuunin squads/lone special-Jounin, Combat with enemy ninja possible/expected. No higher-tier enemies expected.
- 500-2mill for A rank (This is the catch all for things that involve real, serious risk to the ninja taking them. Primarily higher-chuunin and Jounin mixed teams, with the hardest A's being entirely Jounin.)
- Variance inside a rank being based primarily time, except A rank where time and difficulty are both major factors.
- S rank are special enough their pay probably varies wildly from standard A rank to 10m+ per missions, so were left out of this analysis.
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There are all sorts of factors that make individual mission pay a headache to simulate properly, but I can give rough annual figures for Clanless Chunin & Genin based on their economic contribution to the Land of Fire:
A Clanless Chunin generates R300,000 of economic value per year. If the average clanless ninja is on a mission for 200 days out of the year, raw market rates for average Chunin mission pay should be R300000/200 = R1500 per ninja per day.
A clanless Genin generates R125,000 of economic value per year, so 125000/200 = R625 per ninja per day. A genin without a clan might see R20000 in disposable income per year.
Of course, this does not account for missions assigned by the Kage out of military need, which may be the majority of the missions available and could drive up the price considerably. If we say that military missions constitute the majority of missions taken, we can probably handwave a rough doubling of overall mission prices, so R1250 / day and R3000 / day for clanless Genin and Chunin, respectively.* This is all pre-tax income of course.
Clan ninja are more effective on average so can take more difficult missions, say R2000 / day and R5000 / day respectively.
As for jounin, power levels vary wildly so average numbers would be less representative, but assuming five times the Chunin rate then it would be R15,000 - R25,000 per ninja day. S-rank probably 3-5x above that.
The Kage has a considerable budget surplus from unclaimed Clan Benefits**, and can also utilize fractional reserve banking + war bonds, so can easily afford to pay aggressive rates for military missions. They're getting much of it back in taxes anyway.
*In reality, there are two tiers of missions: the relatively safe "create economic value" missions given by civilians, usually involving chakra beasts or security duty, and the relatively dangerous "military necessity" missions assigned by the Kage. The former would pay R625 / genin day and R1500 / chunin day, the latter paying triple that but requiring more intensive use of resources (seals, healing time).
**Founding Clans need to average R16250 of benefits per ninja per mission day, which is unrealistic for anything but a clan composed solely of jounin. In reality, most Founding Clans probably work their asses off just to hit 50-75% of conditional benefits. Conversely, non-Founding clans only need to hit R2980 of benefits per ninja per mission day, very attainable but much less money overall.
A Clanless Chunin generates R300,000 of economic value per year. If the average clanless ninja is on a mission for 200 days out of the year, raw market rates for average Chunin mission pay should be R300000/200 = R1500 per ninja per day.
A clanless Genin generates R125,000 of economic value per year, so 125000/200 = R625 per ninja per day. A genin without a clan might see R20000 in disposable income per year.
Of course, this does not account for missions assigned by the Kage out of military need, which may be the majority of the missions available and could drive up the price considerably. If we say that military missions constitute the majority of missions taken, we can probably handwave a rough doubling of overall mission prices, so R1250 / day and R3000 / day for clanless Genin and Chunin, respectively.* This is all pre-tax income of course.
Clan ninja are more effective on average so can take more difficult missions, say R2000 / day and R5000 / day respectively.
As for jounin, power levels vary wildly so average numbers would be less representative, but assuming five times the Chunin rate then it would be R15,000 - R25,000 per ninja day. S-rank probably 3-5x above that.
The Kage has a considerable budget surplus from unclaimed Clan Benefits**, and can also utilize fractional reserve banking + war bonds, so can easily afford to pay aggressive rates for military missions. They're getting much of it back in taxes anyway.
*In reality, there are two tiers of missions: the relatively safe "create economic value" missions given by civilians, usually involving chakra beasts or security duty, and the relatively dangerous "military necessity" missions assigned by the Kage. The former would pay R625 / genin day and R1500 / chunin day, the latter paying triple that but requiring more intensive use of resources (seals, healing time).
**Founding Clans need to average R16250 of benefits per ninja per mission day, which is unrealistic for anything but a clan composed solely of jounin. In reality, most Founding Clans probably work their asses off just to hit 50-75% of conditional benefits. Conversely, non-Founding clans only need to hit R2980 of benefits per ninja per mission day, very attainable but much less money overall.
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This community astounds.
In what way?
Also, question of the day:
This has multiple components:
1. Premium for land closer to Leaf.
2. Premium for being next to a navigable river or coast.
3. Premium for quality of land. That is, how easy it is to farm, and how much koku it will yield.