At the very least they saw us fight our way past Zabby's KI to keep taunting him.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
At the very least they saw us fight our way past Zabby's KI to keep taunting him.
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[x] (Interlude, July 14) Hazou's Exams Performance: Ren's Postmortem Analysis
I hope we made mom proud
I hope we made mom proud
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[x] (Interlude, July 14) Hazou's Exams Performance: Shin's Postmortem Analysis
Emstar
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HAZOU: You bastard!
ZABUZA: GRRRRR.
OBSERVER: Why you do dis?
HAZOU: ... you think... I'm not gonna get the last word in? ... I'm... too petty...
OBSERVER: Is this kid secretly a Jonin or something? Why is he doing that?!
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Just so you know:
This post rated at 54 on the uSiK-Scale (unbounded Screaming in Kagome Scale) last time I checked.
Whether this is a lot or not is left as an exercise to the reader
Cariyaga
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It's gone as high as a thousand before.Just so you know:
This post rated at 54 on the uSiK-Scale (unbounded Screaming in Kagome Scale) last time I checked.
Whether this is a lot or not is left as an exercise to the reader
Raxner
The most dangerous man in an empty room
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Where I come from, a weak negotiating position means you end up making more concessions. Uchiha is weak, Goketsu is (relatively) strong. We should use that to bargain aggressively to get the concessions that are important to us.
I was not aware of this. Do you have a link to a source?
Assuming the two are not mutually exclusive, I don't see why we'd assume that Hazo is a late bloomer. IIRC, Sharingan only develops when the ninja faces a situation of great emotional stress, such as personally murdering his best friend. It is plausible that Hazo just hasn't had his triggering event yet.
First, going to Uchiha means being separated from all of Team Uplift. Mari, Kagome, Noburi, and Akane will all stay in Goketsu. Second, Naruto isn't really interested in acting as Clan Head, and is willing to leave that to Hazo. I have no reason to believe that the same is true of Sasuke.
Unicorns growl? I never knew that.
I'd like clarification of a few points.
- Children with IN do not go to Uchiha.
- While it's not our opening offer, we are prepared to concede that children with neither IN nor Sharingan go to Uchiha.
- Any children that do go to Uchiha will not be separated from their mothers at too young an age--certainly not before entering the Academy, preferably not before graduating. I don't care if that means that they both stay in Mansion Goketsu until then or not, the kids need their mommies and the mommies need their kids.
- I like that you limit it to children "born to these women." Hazo (should he develop Sharingan) is not going to Uchiha, neither are kids that he may father with Akane or whomever else he ends up marrying, nor any other kids born into Goketsu.
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Given that Hazou's persona in that speech was 'self-important brat' to maximally irritate Zabuza I'm hoping we aim a little higher than that.
As clans the Goketsu may be stronger than the Uchiha, but in terms of negotiations the Uchiha have something we dearly need: their vote. They desperately want to grow their clan, of course, but we are not the only path to achieve that. The main thing we bring to the table is the fact that Hazou's a Kurosawa, for genetics reasons detailed earlier. And also I suppose the fact that we're willing and able to make deals like this in exchange for their priceless Hokage vote, but at the end of the day we need this deal more than the Uchiha do (if all else fails they can continue sucking up to the Hyuuga until they're back to being a credible power)
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Jeez, this thing moves at a mile a minute. So, reading the backlog, y'all are plotting to call the Estates General to rectify the tax situation, have built concentration-camp housing in the backyard (Uncle Snek approves), are starting a Sharingan breeding program (ditto), and…
Yet another day in Marked For Death, where explosions make YOU!
Well…
*gulp*
…Leaf is doomed.
Yet another day in Marked For Death, where explosions make YOU!
Emstar
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I'm about 75% confident that they'll take the deal with at least some of the new concessions and most of our stipulated changes.
The worst element of this for them is the potential visiting rights/dual parents crap. This could potentially split the loyalty of their new clanfolk. This is offset by:
The worst element of this for them is the potential visiting rights/dual parents crap. This could potentially split the loyalty of their new clanfolk. This is offset by:
- Those concessions, which are considerable.
- The fact that it explicitly comes with the " We will train them super good too and also give them a fuckload of seals so they dont die" caveat
- The fact that this creates a potential loyalty split for the new Uchiha horde is not necessarily a bad thing: just as 30-55 of their kids are now pretty loyal to us, 30-55 ish of our kids are now super loyal to them. This is a massive incentive for both of us to keep each other's best interests in mind and act accordingly. Short of literally joining the two clans together I don't think theres a stronger way to make an alliance here.
- We have a Jonin social spec and Hazou, do you think we wouldn't have figured out a way to do this anyway if we really wanted? Ninja.
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Raxner
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[X] Rejection and Counteroffer
@Vecht, please note that I'm casting this vote now because I'm fairly confident you'll make the changes I requested, and because the deadline for voting must be coming up soon.
@Vecht, please note that I'm casting this vote now because I'm fairly confident you'll make the changes I requested, and because the deadline for voting must be coming up soon.
I get the game theory part, but I personally do not find Vecht's pinging me annoying. On the contrary, I'm grateful, as I otherwise might have missed my chance to vote for a plan that I'm okay with.
You bet. We're the Hivemind.
Emstar
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It was already called about 6 hours ago, actually.
Raxner
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Ah, well. So much for that, then.
Emstar
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Partly because @faflec's changes are more or less acceptable to me. That's among the best we're gonna wrangle IMO.
A nontrivial portion of my voting habits are due to... well sometimes when I end up making plans occasionally people badger me to change every other thing to their liking and don't even throw me a vote for it in exchange, and that blows. So if I end up badgering anyone to change a minor detail ("Noo, we must give Ino the yellow flowers! Anything else is unacceptable." levels of minor detail ) here and there and they actually do it instead of wasting time debating me on it, I usually end up throwing them a vote. If it ended up mattering or things got contentious or I thought everything was going to blow up over something in the plan I would unvote it before the deadline. Beauty of approval voting.
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JulieK
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And then they'll need to hire a wet nurse to come live in the Uchiha compound and feed the newest member of the clan. Or alternatively, after taking the babies away from their mothers, they'll place them outside the compound, in the home of a "baby farmer."
(Am I the only thread participant who is a female and a parent?)
Cariyaga
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There is a reason we're paying them a million a month.
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Probably? I'm only aware of a couple regulars that are women and am reasonably sure they aren't parents they are not parents.
Though I would like to say that I agree with all your concerns about child separation
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FTFY
Voting closes 9am Eastern Time on Saturday. Sometimes it's later -- e.g. it closed at noon today because I was at a movie -- but 9am is what you can count on.
Related: I really enjoyed Spiderman: Far from Home. If you like superhero movies, give it a watch. There's two plot holes that you need to not think too much about, but the movie itself is a blast. Funny, great action, a wonderfully adorkable hero, and MJ is brilliant.
Emstar
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Related Related: Spider-man: Into the Spider-verse is fantastic. Its on Netflix now, I would recommend it.
Also, respect the hyphen!
Not that anyone ever does, heh.