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- Yes.
Because it gives Ami blackmail material (Hazou confided in me that he wanted to establish relations with Akatsuki *gasp* Yes, that group of nutjobs that wanted to destroy chakra/mindmeld everyone!)?
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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
Question: People would believe the Mist ninja about this why? Its in her interest to blackmail us why?
Noumero
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- That's petty, they're an existential threat. For that to happen, she'll need to either not take them seriously, or consider us too weak an ally to contribute to mitigating them.
- What evidence would she have? We'll be discussing it in a high-security room, and her credibility is even lower than ours.
- That'd be an actively hostile action, inviting an appropriately hostile response. I'm pretty sure we'll be able to permanently bar her from visiting Leaf if we wanted. Would that be worth it for her?
I wonder if we could win civilian goodwill by offering free or discounted medical attention to cases such as this...
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- Location
- The state of Paranoia
Is it a good idea to be in private with a foreign social spec? Sounds like something the Hyūga could use against us.
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
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- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
Ami will just hand you a piece of paper that reads:
"Any rules affecting Mori can be null and voided at will of said Mori. This rule trakes priority over all others. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧"
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
I mean for Sora in particular as well as Team Nakano's families, we should start.
We need to build goodwill somehow
Noumero
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Well, our entire main building is "private" as far as the Hyuuga are concerned, courtesy of Kagome, and this is explicitly a contingency for Ami infiltrating it — if it activates, the question whether it's a good idea loses relevancy.
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Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Noumero
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- Location
- floating away
Any conversations Hazou had would still be recorded in the iron nerve- Sure, he'd only hear his half, and the information of it happening would be useful to know in of itself. ...Maybe he should add this to his daily routine, if it can be done quickly enough and without taking too much focus.
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- Location
- Yes.
In hindsight, I don't think blackmail is the appropriate word for my thoughts. Apologies for that.
My reasoning was that she could take control of the rumor mill and get people thinking about how strange it is that Hazou's and Akatsuki's goals seem to align on a lot of things and etc. etc.. Basically get the similarities between Hazou and Akatsuki out there. Or alternatively she could do what she did last time and use a compromised courier to send implicating intel, though she'd have to be far more cautious about it if she wanted to avoid it being obviously her that's responsible for it. With that done and rumors spread, she's free to offer to quash them...for a favor.
And Akatsuki is an existential threat, meaning that attempting diplomacy suggests that we're willing to at least consider compromising. With the existential threat that killed our Hokage and Clan Head.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Instead of thinking about ways Ami can fuck us over in detail, we should instead assess whether it benefits her in the mid to long term to do so.
I don't think it does. We're a potential ally, blood brothers with her sister, and we're on our way to a meteoric rise to power in Leaf over the next decade or so if we play our cards right. Why would she stick a knife in our back now? We're probably the best vector available to accomplish her longterm geopolitical goals,assuming they are reasonably benign, which I think at this point we can say they are in the neighborhood thereof.
Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
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- Canada
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- She/Her
... ohhhhhhh that's a scary, scary possibility.
... OH FUCK
OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK
TRUTH LOST IN THE FOG ALLOWS FOR GROUNDHOG DAY ATTACK
Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Not nightmare seal failure, just regular everyday seal failure. Y'know, the blood and screaming kind of seal failure. Hardly any chance of accidentally grueing anything.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Why would she need to? SHe knows Hazou well enough to manipulate him if she wanted to.
Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
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- Canada
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- She/Her
Okay fair,
but actually on second thought I'm more worried about Mari indulging her habit of confessing things to people in the fog, and then memory-wiping them.
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- Yes.
We were all this and more during the Exams, yet it didn't stop her from pulling her marriage schtick. And yes, I recognize that it didn't end up doing anything, but the fact that the possibility was shown concerns me, to say the least.
Noumero
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But... she can do this already? If it was her goal to create a reputational problem for us and then offer to fix it, there are thousands of ways to do that, ways that are less obviously tracked back to her (we discuss approaching Akatsuki with her in private, and then suddenly there are rumours about us being in bed with them, hmm).
- Location
- Raleigh, NC
Thosel: If we get this much good will just by being polite, how much could we get for a actually enabling civilians?
I suggest that 3 pieces of tech would vastly improve the economic and defensive capabilities of civilians:
1. Civilian usable storage seal
2. Civilian usable explosive seal (or macerator seal)
3. Civilian usable gun seal
The economic benefits of the storage seal should be obvious. It's a magic paper based replacement for much of our current heavy equipment.
Semi-truck -> ninja with large storage scroll
Freighter -> same
Dump truck/excavator -> shove dirt into bags->seal->move->unseal
Tanker truck: same as above with barrels
Refrigerator->single storage seal with box (can also keep oven warm by sealing when not in use)
Fast food/canned food -> kitchen with storage seal exchange
Prime mover -> storage seal with weights and child sealing/unsealing (like first steam engines)
I would also like to point out that storage seals are now cheap enough to make destroying one worth it just to move furniture across town.
For the value of civilian usable explosive seals, I would point out the current proposals for clearing land and the wide usage of dynamite in the American West.
If combined with explosive seals, gun seals might actually allow civilians to deal with low grade chakra beasts (which are probably the majority).
If it is possible to make the civilian usable storage seal in a reasonable amount of time, I would recommend giving away samples to as many influential civilians as possible with a 'I would love to sell you a ton of these, but my hands are tied' position.
Just for fun:
"The Sage created man. Gōketsu made them equal."
I suggest that 3 pieces of tech would vastly improve the economic and defensive capabilities of civilians:
1. Civilian usable storage seal
2. Civilian usable explosive seal (or macerator seal)
3. Civilian usable gun seal
The economic benefits of the storage seal should be obvious. It's a magic paper based replacement for much of our current heavy equipment.
Semi-truck -> ninja with large storage scroll
Freighter -> same
Dump truck/excavator -> shove dirt into bags->seal->move->unseal
Tanker truck: same as above with barrels
Refrigerator->single storage seal with box (can also keep oven warm by sealing when not in use)
Fast food/canned food -> kitchen with storage seal exchange
Prime mover -> storage seal with weights and child sealing/unsealing (like first steam engines)
I would also like to point out that storage seals are now cheap enough to make destroying one worth it just to move furniture across town.
For the value of civilian usable explosive seals, I would point out the current proposals for clearing land and the wide usage of dynamite in the American West.
If combined with explosive seals, gun seals might actually allow civilians to deal with low grade chakra beasts (which are probably the majority).
If it is possible to make the civilian usable storage seal in a reasonable amount of time, I would recommend giving away samples to as many influential civilians as possible with a 'I would love to sell you a ton of these, but my hands are tied' position.
Just for fun:
"The Sage created man. Gōketsu made them equal."
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Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
The marriage schtick was a joke though. You're talking about treason level blackmail. The marriage thing was a "2"on the Danger-o-meter and this is like an "8" if done competently.
- Location
- Raleigh, NC
They would not actually be equal unless seal tech gets much more advanced. However, they could have much larger surpluses and a professional squad of them might be able to the chakras beasts that genin could kill.
- Location
- Yes.
Yes, she can do this already, so the last thing we should do is give her ammunition. The mere fact of our conversing behind anti-spying seals is gonna spread a whole bunch of rumors, from Akatsuki to going back to Mist to bloody coup to...yeah. Whole bunch of rumors, which she can pick and choose which ones to fan. Her sneaking in isn't something we can stop, though.
It was?
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Yes.
Are you honestly telling me you disagree with the assessment I just gave of the relative threat levels? Its the difference between playing Five Finger Fillet with dull knives and driving a car while blackout drunk. One might inconvenience you and rough you up a bit if you're not careful, but is ultimately amusing and not too dangerous. The other will undoubtedly kill you and everyone else along for the ride.