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I thought that was just a message from him to her?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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I suppose?
Anyhow, what do you think of visiting her and giving her said thing and a hot meal while having Noburi offer her chakra water so she can spam any regen techniques she might know? Could get her back on her feet faster which would be a win for us.
TaliesinSkye
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No, she's competent, remember? She's going to go politic and build alliances like there's no tomorrow, because if she doesn't there won't be.
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...the bribe could get us in there earlier than usual. Gonna sleep soon but will add once I wake up.
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Adding this to my plan
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TaliesinSkye
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Something like this should work next update:
"The Lord Hokage ordered me to personally deliver this message to Lady Tsunade immediately in the event of his death. Are you not going to respect the Lord Hokage's last wish before his heroic sacrifice for Leaf?"
Other point, before we sign the Toad contract we should get a thorough gauge on Naruto's condition. If he's more or less alright, he might make a better summoner than Noburi due to cheating Jinchuriki chakra reserves. If he's not going to be functional for who knows how long, Noburi is probably the better choice because we need someone we can actually use if necessary.
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We should read Jiraiya's will and also find out where the toad scroll is.
TaliesinSkye
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Yeah, that goes without saying. I imagine there will also be a formal reading of his will before the Clan Council, once it gets organized, but we should be ahead of the curve.
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[X] Action Plan: Gathering Allies
@Oneiros I gave your plan a quick skim. My honest feedback:
@Oneiros I gave your plan a quick skim. My honest feedback:
- It seems all over the place without a good sense of direction
- The political plays proposed are decidedly amateurish and are likely to have Hazou come across as naive and signal weakness on the part of Gouketsu.
- "Be polite but firm" -- with Tsunade? She's not going to respond well to that. Further, we have no authority over either of them. Playing that card is just going to get egg on our face at best.
- Meet Kabuto, "Let him know that he will always have a friend with the Gōketsu." -- Erm, okay. Sans any particular offer or giving him a reason to throw his lot in with us, this isn't going to accomplish anything. If anything it gives *him* an in to manipulate Hazou. I'm actually strongly in favor of reaching out to Kabuto but this isn't the way to go about it. (Maybe offer him access to Orochimaru's lab, plus bloodline research? And more importantly, what specifically do we want from him?)
- We don't know it was Hiashi behind the propaganda.
- Send an invitation ... "Lord Gōketsu wishes to discuss your future" -- Again, this is just the wrong card to play and is likely to piss people off.
- Meeting with ISC -- this comes across strongly as "We have no idea what we're doing. Please bail us out."
- Treating Chouza as a confidant and asking for advice just screams inexperience and weakness. He doesn't owe us anything. ISC allied with us previously because we were in a position of strength and had a lot to offer them. With Jiraiya gone, that strongly comes into question. Sending signals like this is likely to wind up with them dropping us fast.
- I strongly support taking time to meet and talk with Naruto, but we really shouldn't be making demands on Tsunade's time and attention.
- We should also probably go over the will in private before inviting Tsunade in. She's a wildcard; we can't assume she can be trusted to operate in our interests.
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Honestly, our plan should be flexible WRT the contents of the will. There's so much that can change based on what's inside that making a bunch of contingencies is mostly pointless when we can just have Tsunade open it and find out what Jiraiya thought we would need to know.
That's another major concern I have: reading the will and verifying to whatever acting powers that be that the will has not been tampered with. I would assume that there's precedent for this but without an acting elected Hokage this might be tricky.
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I actually think that's one of the better ways to interact with her? She doesn't like disrespect but she also hates attempts to manipulate her and/or dissembling. Maybe "respectful but straightforward" would be better? I'm not sure.
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@faflec Can you nix the line about asking Chouza for advice on acting as Clan Head? I'm not against this per se, but if we do that it needs to be careful so as to not send the wrong signals.
Mari/Naruto are fine to talk with openly. I worry what Tsunade will do if we express any weakness or hesitancy, so I'd caution against asking her for advice right away.
Mari/Naruto are fine to talk with openly. I worry what Tsunade will do if we express any weakness or hesitancy, so I'd caution against asking her for advice right away.
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Implemented your suggestions
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I mean, I guess it's possible that Hyuga/their allies didn't push this narrative but I doubt it. A news paper getting just enough facts right despite supposedly having no insider, while making a bunch of bullshit up that happens to push the Warhawk faction's agenda? I wouldn't hold my breath
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The phrasing was "Lord Gōketsu wishes to meet at your earliest convenience." That is so totally and blatantly acting above our station. We aren't Jiraiya, and he left some Sannin-sized boots to fill. I'd be surprised if we don't get immediately swatted down by Tsunade.
@Oneiros maybe instead say, "On behalf of the Gouketsu Clan, Gouketsu Hazou wishes to meet at your earliest convenience"?
Lady Tsunade, this is about Jiraiya's last will. Nobody can open it but you.
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Raxner
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I love the update! The BotG was good because of where it brought the story, but this one was better because of what happened and what Hazo had to do. Thanks, @eaglejarl!
I think
Also, who's speaking here? Is it Keiko?
Does he hate all Kurosawa, or just the ones that were involved in the decision to push Hana out? What if it's a Kurosawa diplomancer that was too young to have any influence on that decision?
The use of "always" twice in such close proximity feels off. Maybe drop the second one?
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I think
The evil
to celebrate
insert period between sentences
That just cracks me up
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Not clear why? Marriage is instead of adoption, I thought. As she will continue to be a member of Goketsu, shouldn't the money stay with Goketsu?
We've got other negative traits! Funnier ones!
Someone in-character actually noticed?
Killing the boy, Hazō, good job!
Excellent point.
will be maximally desirable
Also, who's speaking here? Is it Keiko?
That went better than I would have expected.
Epic.
Maybe send a note through the Pangolins and the Slugs?
Makes our position in-universe harder, but makes the game more interesting for the hive-mind. Personally, I like the fact that Hazō now has no obvious superiors.
Or she might just punch him through the continental crust. Whatever works.
Or he doesn't care enough to work on this, or it's something he can't change.
Naruto, we're definitely open to you being Clan Head, but not instantly. You were just recovered from Akatsuki, you need to recover and we all need to get to know you, and you need to get to know us. How about if we revisit the issue in three months?
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Changed this to respectful and straightforward
This was intended to be a sit up move to try to convince Kabuto to join the clan later. Once we know if we have Tsunade/Naruto on our side can offer him a stronger offer
Have no strong feelings about this. Someone requested I add it but easily deleted
Edited to just send invitations. Added a line about seeing how they interact together before we propose any adoptions
The plan was to bluff inexperience to chouza as part of a long term gambit to get him to underestimate us while at the same time getting actionable information to the player base. But can see your point
Solid idea added
A much better phrasing.
TaliesinSkye
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I believe all the errors in the news broadsheet were intentional in character errors. Looks like whoever wrote it was very rushed and sloppy.
To get in in a hurry, all we need to do is tell the truth. We've got a high-importance message from the Hokage he ordered us to delver to her in the event of his death.
Heck, until a new Hokage is chosen, those orders technically trump the authority of everyone.
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Raxner
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You're probably right, come to think of it.
Huckleberry Finn would be shocked. Chapter 28 quote:
So I went to studying it out. I says to myself, I reckon a body that ups and tells the truth when he is in a tight place is taking considerable many resks, though I ain't had no experience, and can't say for certain; but it looks so to me, anyway; and yet here's a case where I'm blest if it don't look to me like the truth is better and actuly _safer_ than a lie. I must lay it by in my mind, and think it over some time or other, it's so kind of strange and unregular. I never see nothing like it. Well, I says to myself at last, I'm a-going to chance it; I'll up and tell the truth this time, though it does seem most like setting down on a kag of powder and touching it off just to see where you'll go to.
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I'll note that Inuzuka Gaku was one of the survivors of the Battle of the Gods, and I think I remember hearing something to the effect that they weren't particularly injured.
So if the group arrives home and Hiashi and Tsunade are both whisked away to the hospital, Gaku would be one of the few survivors able to tell the masses what happened. The Inuzuka have a pro-Hiashi political stance and probably don't know how to spell, so it all fits!
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My personal guess is that it's the rushed product of the Tower propaganda office, quite possibly by someone junior who wouldn't normally do it but their boss is dead.