Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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Done.add it first
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Noumero
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I'm concerned nobody will actually be able to stop Zabuza. He already did a lot of damage with his short line about a trap. If he skips theatrics, he'll only need to shout out fifteen more words or so to reveal everything, and he will do so the moment he realizes Ren is on the way. The Gaara distraction was powerful, but Zabuza may decide to forcibly ignore it. If that happens... Jiraiya's ability to distract him, or order people to distract him, is extremely limited, since everyone is looking at him with suspicion, second-guessing his every blink.
I'm thinking we should start angrily ranting at Zabuza about cooperation or something. He likely hates us; if we remind him of our existence in a sufficiently annoying way, he may get distracted, turn his ire towards us. From an outsider's perspective, it'll just be seen as an idiot kid being an idiot, and he won't actually attack us (probably).
Unless it's a genjutsu, of course. @huhYeahGoodPoint, @Cariyaga, (@Oneiros?), what happens in your plans if Hazou successfully dispels? I'd add contingencies along the lines of "be prepared for immediate violence, attempt to escape outside; if impossible, do as much damage to your captors as you can".
I'm thinking we should start angrily ranting at Zabuza about cooperation or something. He likely hates us; if we remind him of our existence in a sufficiently annoying way, he may get distracted, turn his ire towards us. From an outsider's perspective, it'll just be seen as an idiot kid being an idiot, and he won't actually attack us (probably).
Unless it's a genjutsu, of course. @huhYeahGoodPoint, @Cariyaga, (@Oneiros?), what happens in your plans if Hazou successfully dispels? I'd add contingencies along the lines of "be prepared for immediate violence, attempt to escape outside; if impossible, do as much damage to your captors as you can".
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- Italy
Why would we use a favor for this?
1)Keiko is our sister, everything going to hell means she dies, if Ami can stop a Ninja war from happening, she will,regardless of the favor.
2)It's doubtful she could do something
3)We are using signals to a Mist jounin in a place full of jonin, even if they don't understand the meaning, it's something really stupid to do
4)It uses our favor
It's...strange, to say the least.
He was contracted to find Naruto, and he didn't go on a tirade on "My friends!", remember, we are talking about someone that was hunting missing-nin.
It seems a really strange behavior for someone whose entire life revolves about killing friends, even if he can rationalize it as "traitors".
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[X] Action plan: Operation Murder
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- USA
Shit, I missed that. My Zabuza notes are something like:
1. He died fighting Naruto
2. He showed up at the Chunin exam as the announcer.
3. He burst into this room, spilling beans.
Did I miss an update, or did I miss that he was looking for Naruto at one of those times?
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Emstar
The Shining One
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There was an interlude where he woke up in one of Orochimaru's mednin MLM locations and he was contracted out to find Alatsuki as a part of his life debt
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Here is a slightly more helpful answer
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
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We can confirm that Nakano and Doigama were in fact present. Based on what Hazō knows, Jiraiya brought Nakano as a personal decision, while Doigama got permission from his superiors to see the end of the tournament, and got invited as a plus one as a result of being in the right place at the right time.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
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Based on this I'd like to take out the dispel so Hazō seems like less of a paranoid person
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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The only people he'd look like a paranoid person to were the hyuuga if they had the byakugan active. Dispel is purely internal.
On a related note: @eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail A while ago we discussed the necessity of saying the name of your technique in actually using it. My recollection was that it was absolutely not necessary, and was one of those things taken out as part of converting the setting over to be more reasonable. As I recall, though, one of you thought otherwise. Was an internal decision ever reached on this?
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Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
TBH i think its fine within ninja culture to just be dispelling randomly. If its not accepted, theyre all idiots.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
I stand corrected.
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
Also fine to dispel when your party got crashed twice in under a minute and someone just said that the Sand jinchuuriki got kidnapped. These are incredible events, and some level of incredulity is entirely justified.
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- USA
Guys, can we precommit to making sure that if we end up trying to get the Crowtentate to reverse-summon Itachi it doesn't take the shape of another conquest for the Pangofascists? Like, our guy is going to explode into a literal hypocrisy nuke if we keep on talking about being Team Uplift while we enslave nations in order to win youth sporting events. Gold, jutsus, some combat boost for our team, none of that is worth what happened to the Condors. We can't do it again.
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IIRC Crows are on the other side of the Summoning Realm continent and the Pangolins have a standing <Do Not Fuck With> order on them. I think we're fine in that regard.
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I'll note that 'win youth sporting event' was one of the least important benefits of our faustian bargain. More important is keeping the Goketsu afloat and funding the search for Naruto, which ranges from 'keeping Leaf from falling to external foes' to 'fighting an existential threat' depending on what exactly Akatsuki's up to. Moreover, with Pax Konoha being our best chance of achieving Uplift on the Human Path, it's valid to say that our deal with the Pangolins is in service of bringing real actual peace to the Human Path and stopping the downward spiral of civilization.
Of course, it's still a faustian bargain and we're still condemning other cultures to enslavement and none of us want to enable that any more than we have to, but it's important to recognize that this deal has benefits comparable to its downsides (and if you disagree with that, I'd like to express that I take X-risks very seriously and view the Elemental Nations status quo as such an X-risk). In this case, though, I agree that we shouldn't present this to the Pangolins as an opportunity for conquest, if we even approach them at all. Jiraiya may overrule us, of course, and we aren't in a position to gainsay him if he does, but unless he does I think most of us here are okay with minimizing Seventh Path political repercussions from this.
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- USA
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- He/Him
Huh. I was pretty sure that yes, handseals and callouts actually were necessary. Then again, my brain is cheese.
@faflec or anyone else, have we actually made an official ruling on this?
On that subject, there was at one point a reference of all the rulings. Is that still around?