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Have Keiko actually told us about this?

[X] Action Plan: Reasonable Handling of New Information.

Also, I'm somewhat alarmed that Ami investigation part was cropped out of the plan(s) wiithout any discussion or reasoning. It seems important to me to show Ami that we're players not pawns on this global shogi board and this was one of the ways to show it.

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@Roomba, @Inferno Vulpix would you mind telling why it is gone?
I could've sworn I mentioned it, but the section was just taking up too much space - wordcount and conceptual, so as I added in a bunch of stuff to do I took out that bit. We can probably do it later, anyways.
I notice I am confused.. The plans begin with responding to Keiko's message, meaning they take place from the evening after Keiko's "match" against Shikamaru through the following day. Given that the only fight left is the Finals,

Seems oddly phrased.
Apologies for the confusion, the phrasings there are a bit of a holdover from the previous versions of the plan, which involved the aforementioned Ami investigation as well as us players (if memory serves) not being sure which matches were happening.
 
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    [X] Action Plan: Reasonable Handling of New Information.
    [X] Action Plan: Spines for the Spine Throne
    [X] Action Plan: It's Kinda Sorta The Other Plan But With Shopping and Socializing
    [X] The Plan I Never Got To Make But I Wish I Could
    [X] Let @Velorien write what he wants, as long as Hazou marries Ami. We love and trust him.
    [x] Happy Valentines Day, Gouketsu Hazou
    [X] Keiko descends into unprecedented bout of depression, after burning out of her righteous fury. In self-flagellating act of desperation, unwilling to face her siblings or be a burden any more than she is, she reverse summons herself. She stays there until next match, which she loses due to lack of preparations or support from their more creatively-minded family. This defeat puts Keiko into a state of pure agonizing panic, which she tries to further escape by plunging herself into Frozen Skein. This act renders her comatose, leading to a whole slew of consequences, culminating in Mori Ami and Goketsu Hazou combining their forces to make a WMD capable of wiping out all realities where Keiko is dead. As their definition of "dead" includes "not there to begin with" our universe is destroyed as well.
    [X] Action Plan: Reasonable Handling of New Information Mk CCLXVII Now With Less Keiko.
    [x] Action Plan: Realise Kei is Dating Tenten
    [x] Lore Update: Saving Private Nobby
    [X] Steal Keiko's summoning scroll, get reverse summoned, then open 1000 rifts to the Out before desummoning yourself.
    [X] Make a summoning contract with the Rift Denizens and then pit them against the Pangolin Reich Empire
    [X] Start reading the Icha-Icha series.
    [X] Hazou raises his hand to knock on Keiko's door, only to be tackled to the ground by a shadowy figure. It's Hazou from the future, attempting to save his past self from a terrible fate far in the future that all stems from this moment. Noburi knocks the future Hazou away and tenses to fight, but both Hazous immediately devolve into structured meaningful conversation about their goals and perspectives. After both sides have said their peace, future Hazou agrees to avert the terrible fate in a more productive way. As Hazou approaches Keiko's door again, he slips on a banana peel and hits the floor hard, rendering him comatose. Future Hazou hides the body and takes his place.
    [X] Plan: Drink alcohol
    [X] Publically talk about the marriage proposal to Ami
    [X] Poll: Relax for exactly 28 minutes before preparing the Ami date.
    [X] Action Plan: Punch yourself
    [X] Family reunion
    [x] Congratulate Keiko on her betrothal
    [X] Look like Ami, because were are cute AF. Hug Keiko. Then Hug everyone else.
    [X] Armageddon Initiative
    [X] Do Not Buy A YOUTHSUIT
    [x] Go Drinking with the Yakuza Lieutenant
    [x] 4m1 P14n: 7h3 4sc3nd3d M3m3
 
Hazō would benefit a lot from getting the capybara scroll. They could teach him better socials, or even just substitute in for him for social stuff.
Example:
Hazō: "Hey Caprica, did it seem like Noburi was a little awkward when I mentioned that Keiko and Shikamaru were doing well together?"
Caprica: "Why yes, it did. It was probably because he was trying not to give away that Keiko is actually dating Tenten, and has absolutely no romantic interest in Shikamaru, nor he in her."
Hazō: :o

Now I want to meet the ninjutsu specialist, Capsaicin.

-or the assassin, Dee Capitate.

-or the thief, Caper.

-or the bounty hunter, Captor.

-or the seduction specialist, Captivate.

-or the master strategist, Capricious.

-or the merchant, Capitalist.

-or the chef, Cappuccino.
 
As my dark lord commands so shall it be
Oy! @Velorien is the dark lord, I'm the superawesome bird! Get it right!

How did S-rank achieved lot of XP and survive to do it?
A combination of things. Being on the far right edge of the talent curve helps a lot. Being lucky is important -- one bad roll was enough to kill Hiruzen. Defensive jutsu go a long way. Sticking to your strength in mission types and avoiding bad matchups in combat is critical; e.g. Gai should go on combat missions, not social ones. Have a summoning scroll -- it's not a sufficient item and it's maybe not a necessary one, but it really helps.

Game mechanically:

Have a build that denies the enemy as many opportunities to deal damage as possible and allows you to block as many attacks as possible; don't use taijutsu or Melee Weapons because that allows counterattacks, don't use Ranged Weapons because then you can't parry, etc. Be sure you have enough chakra to support boosting and plenty of Substitution. Have an active career (as opposed to lighthousing), use short, focused plans, and choose things that the QMs enjoy writing. (That usually means punching for my updates and socials for @Velorien's.)

Probably more, but that's a good starter list.
 
Oy! @Velorien is the dark lord, I'm the superawesome bird! Get it right!


A combination of things. Being on the far right edge of the talent curve helps a lot. Being lucky is important -- one bad roll was enough to kill Hiruzen. Defensive jutsu go a long way. Sticking to your strength in mission types and avoiding bad matchups in combat is critical; e.g. Gai should go on combat missions, not social ones. Have a summoning scroll -- it's not a sufficient item and it's maybe not a necessary one, but it really helps.

What determines the talent curve? Why Hazō doesn't learn as fast as Itachi?
 
What determines the talent curve? Why Hazō doesn't learn as fast as Itachi?

I guess not spending every spare minute to train would be one of the reasons. And talent should be pre-defined at birth, I guess. Someone's more lucky, someone's less. Gai is a taijutsu monster, but he has to train half of every day just to keep up with Kakashi, who haven't spent even an hour of canon on training. They're on pretty much the same level, but one has to work to achieve this and the other can spend all time with Icha Icha
 
A combination of things. Being on the far right edge of the talent curve helps a lot. Being lucky is important -- one bad roll was enough to kill Hiruzen. Defensive jutsu go a long way. Sticking to your strength in mission types and avoiding bad matchups in combat is critical; e.g. Gai should go on combat missions, not social ones. Have a summoning scroll -- it's not a sufficient item and it's maybe not a necessary one, but it really helps.

Game mechanically:

Have a build that denies the enemy as many opportunities to deal damage as possible and allows you to block as many attacks as possible; don't use taijutsu or Melee Weapons because that allows counterattacks, don't use Ranged Weapons because then you can't parry, etc. Be sure you have enough chakra to support boosting and plenty of Substitution. Have an active career (as opposed to lighthousing), use short, focused plans, and choose things that the QMs enjoy writing. (That usually means punching for my updates and socials for @Velorien's.)

On that note, I'd like to reiterate my desire to make Strobelight Seals. The rapidly flashing light makes the wearer painful to look at so as to debuff enemy ranged attacks. Decent defensive seal, even if it wouldn't be super powerful. And more importantly, a flashing light is somethimg that sounds non-horrible to research.

Defenses are important, people!
 
On that note, I'd like to reiterate my desire to make Strobelight Seals. The rapidly flashing light makes the wearer painful to look at so as to debuff enemy ranged attacks. Decent defensive seal, even if it wouldn't be super powerful. And more importantly, a flashing light is somethimg that sounds non-horrible to research.

Defenses are important, people!
I am all for expanding our toolkit's versatility, but how would you avoid blinding yourself and allies?
 
Have a build that denies the enemy as many opportunities to deal damage as possible and allows you to block as many attacks as possible; don't use taijutsu or Melee Weapons because that allows counterattacks, don't use Ranged Weapons because then you can't parry, etc. Be sure you have enough chakra to support boosting and plenty of Substitution. Have an active career (as opposed to lighthousing), use short, focused plans, and choose things that the QMs enjoy writing. (That usually means punching for my updates and socials for @Velorien's.)

To break this down for Hazou:

[x] Don't use taijutsu/melee: Not only do we have a tajutsu spec but it isn't even optimized as much due to investing points into sealing.

[x] Enough chakra: It's pretty low.

[?] Active career: We don't really have one right now? Mostly just doing whatever Jiraiya tells us to when we aren't busy dealing with Ami.

[✓] Short Plans: We seem to be mostly doing well with those.

[✓] QM Incentives: Sort of? Ami is there but that limits our punching.

tl;dr
Hazou being alive still is kind of amazing and we shouldn't take it for granted.
 
I am all for expanding our toolkit's versatility, but how would you avoid blinding yourself and allies?

Yourself: put it in a frame with an angled lip so the light doesn't shine into your face.

Your allies: "Hey, guys! Try not to look directly at each other, okay!"?

(Yes, the ally problem is trickier.)

To break this down for Hazou:

[x] Don't use taijutsu/melee: Not only do we have a tajutsu spec but it isn't even optimized as much due to investing points into sealing.

[x] Enough chakra: It's pretty low.

[?] Active career: We don't really have one right now? Mostly just doing whatever Jiraiya tells us to when we aren't busy dealing with Ami.

[✓] Short Plans: We seem to be mostly doing well with those.

[✓] QM Incentives: Sort of? Ami is there but that limits our punching.

tl;dr
Hazou being alive still is kind of amazing and we shouldn't take it for granted.

Should note:
  • Hazou can use ring seals to roll Taij at range, disallowing counterattack.
  • We're about to level CR to 30 for SC.
 
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Instead of strobe lights I'd like to research stronger macerators to be able to chew up iron to get flash bombs
 
Yourself: put it in a frame with an angled lip so the light doesn't shine into your face.

Your allies: "Hey, guys! Try not to look directly at each other, okay!"?

(Yes, the ally problem is trickier.)



Should note:
  • Hazou can use ring seals to roll Taij at range, disallowing counterattack.
  • We're about to level CR to 30 for SC.
I would rather spend what time we get clearing some stuff out of our current reseaech queue
 
Strobelights have been on that list for months, they aren't a new thing that I'm just now proposing.

Which other seals in our backlog did you want to prioritise?

They aren't on the list I have quasi-memorized, so my b. See:

Side Project Order of Operations: Because we have way too many to easily keep track of.
  1. Kabuto Research Proposal
  2. Create (Expand? Codify?) till'n'fill/chakra beast extermination mission fund.
  3. Get other combat seals approved
  4. Get a secretary
Sealing/Research queue:
  1. Extrasensory Seals
  2. Mountain Seals et al. [When Jiraiya is available]
  3. Black Paper Skywalkers (consult Jiraiya)
  4. Movable Force Walls
  5. Larger Storage Seals/Better Macerators
  6. Force Blades
  7. Earth Wall Seals
  8. Water Purifier Seals
  9. Activation Relay Seals
  10. Purifier Variants
For Review:
  • Disposal Seals
  • Snek Seals
  • Eavesdropping Seals
  • Recorder Seals
I'll keep a link to this handy so I can keep track of what we should be doing next when we have spare time. If anyone has anything that we've been meaning to do but I forgot to list, or if you disagree with the priority I've placed them in, please speak up!

In general:

1)HEAVY STORAGE SEALS ! Improved variants on storage-type seals we have for bigger payloads.

2)Finish the ESS stuff.

I would be open to experimenting with tweaks to make flashlights/strobelights/flashbangs provided its not going to take a few months or something.
 
So melee is bad and so are ranged weapons. Does that leave anything other than jutsu? I thought jutsu were crap with the current system

[X] Action Plan: Spines for the Spine Throne
 
So melee is bad and so are ranged weapons. Does that leave anything other than jutsu? I thought jutsu were crap with the current system
Ranged weapons are OP, actually. Melee anything is kind of bad if you want to live long, unless you have the Infinity+1 Sword or have a cheat that lets you pwn people with punching. We sorta kinda have a grabbag of tricks that should split the difference, though?

Thank god for macerators and those armor jutsu.
 
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I added strobelight seals to the research queue, but not at the top because stuff like Movable Force Walls and our in-progress projects come first.
Side Project Order of Operations: Because we have way too many to easily keep track of.
  1. Kabuto Research Proposal
  2. Create (Expand? Codify?) till'n'fill/chakra beast extermination mission fund.
  3. Get other combat seals approved
  4. Get a secretary
Sealing/Research queue:
  1. Extrasensory Seals
  2. Mountain Seals et al. [When Jiraiya is available]
  3. Black Paper Skywalkers (consult Jiraiya)
  4. Movable Force Walls
  5. Larger Storage Seals/Better Macerators
  6. Force Blades
  7. Strobelight Seals
  8. Earth Wall Seals
  9. Water Purifier Seals
  10. Activation Relay Seals
  11. Purifier Variants
For Review:
  • Disposal Seals
  • Snek Seals
  • Eavesdropping Seals
  • Recorder Seals
I'll keep a link to this handy so I can keep track of what we should be doing next when we have spare time. If anyone has anything that we've been meaning to do but I forgot to list, or if you disagree with the priority I've placed them in, please speak up!
 
Personally, my research priorities are:
  1. Finish ESP.
  2. Defensive Seals (Strobelight, etc.)
  3. Storage mods (higher capacity storage/macerators, faster macerators, purifiers of various kinds)
  4. Seal Syntax (LBF, ARS)
We can give the HM seals to Jiraiya/Kagome and ask them to tell us if they find anything cool that's within Hazou's capabilities. Black Paper Skywalkers aren't really a new seal, so that shouldn't take more than an hour to test.

To my recollection, Kagome said Movable Forcewalls are Very Difficult. If true, then Forceblades will be more so.
 
Personally, my research priorities are:
  1. Finish ESP.
  2. Defensive Seals (Strobelight, etc.)
  3. Storage mods (higher capacity storage/macerators, faster macerators, purifiers of various kinds)
  4. Seal Syntax (LBF, ARS)
We can give the HM seals to Jiraiya/Kagome and ask them to tell us if they find anything cool that's within Hazou's capabilities. Black Paper Skywalkers aren't really a new seal, so that shouldn't take more than an hour to test.

To my recollection, Kagome said Movable Forcewalls are Very Difficult. If true, then Forceblades will be more so.
The list isn't an absolute priority structure per se, more a general ordering according to my opinion that will be re-evaluated when it comes time to discuss the next project. The important part is that they're all there and we don't have to remember them manually.

Also, as I recall figuring out the Mountain seals is a joint Hazou/Kagome/Jiraiya family project (we've already talked to Jiraiya about it) and Kagome was talking about altering the force wall seals themselves to be movable where our focus is on making a frame that can move them (And there's a really big megapost out there that crunches all of the numbers and proves it's possible). If we can get Movable Force Walls working, Force Blades would just have to be a variant of the regular Force Wall with different dimensions, which may or may not be extremely difficult.
 
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