This tactic also works against our sister.
HAZOU: 'CAUSE YOU'LL GET A THOUSAND HUGS FROM TEN THOUSAND LIGHTNING BUGS
KEI: (shaking uncontrollably)
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
This tactic also works against our sister.
HAZOU: 'CAUSE YOU'LL GET A THOUSAND HUGS FROM TEN THOUSAND LIGHTNING BUGS
KEI: (shaking uncontrollably)
I'm imagining Hazou and Noburi creating dozens of clones to zombie-shamble towards her while moaning, "hugssss...."
Emstar
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If only Pikachu was still in the tournament.
HAZOU:
ed by @Lailoken by 3 minutes.I was still catching up when this vote happened; could someone who was there please link me to the discussion that led to the decision to meet with Ami one-on-one? Given what we know of her (basically a Mori Sue: all of the bloodline's benefits, none of the drawbacks, and a Jounin), if we manage to get out of this meeting without giving Ami All The Secrets and giving her a legitimate pretext to murder us (or worse), which she will be able to use to wring concessions from Jiraiya, it would be because she has even worse plans for us.
The only causes for optimism we have are 1) OOC knowledge that she prioritises Keiko's well-being over that of the Mori clan; and 2) Jiraiya permitted the meeting.
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Because being afraid to talk to people when they have no leverage over you and no motive to hurt you, is more than a bit ridiculous, and the only reason it's seen as a reasonable stance in this thread is paranoia borne of past trauma. Hazou is heir presumptive to Leaf's ruling clan right now. He will not be able to live his life locked away in
Stats aren't everything. Hazou learns from experience, and our plans have a huge influence over what he learns. He's learned combat tactics from all the excellent combat plans the hivemind has supplied him with over the years, to the point where it's an acknowledged part of his characterization. He can learn to be more socially graceful in a similar way, if we help him. In my mind, the most immediately beneficial aspect of meeting with Ami is that it's excellent practice without all that much risk involved.
On that note, social skills aren't mind control, and they aren't magic. If we tell Hazou in a plan not to say anything on topics X, Y, Z no matter what, then he won't. If Ami's feeling combative, he's going to yield the social combats and feel embarrassed or awkward, but not much more.
On a more personal level, I'd really like the hivemind itself to get over its irrational fear of talking to people, and I hope this interaction will go well enough that we can continue to build on it. Given where we are right now, and our goals, it's arguably more useful for Hazou to be an effective leader and negotiator than to punch harder. And honestly, it can be done, it shouldn't even be very difficult with our combined brain power, but we have to actually try first.
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Don't know about linking it but I can try to summarize some of the reasons:
- Ami is interesting OOC.
- She looks like a major player whose motivations are unknown to us and we happen to be in Mist right now so we can at least try and figure them out.
- We will run into her at some point with even less control about the meeting if she is as powerful as Jiraiya claims she is; might as well get it over with in a relatively safe environment.
- Imagine her turning out to be an ally of our core values but we missed out on her support because we were too scared to even ask.
- She is important to Keiko and therefore important to Hazou by proxy.
- Recent talk-y plans going well and the QM's suggestion to do stuff to make things interesting finally overcame the thread's generic caution to do even mildly risky stuff.
- @Roomba promised @Velorien a date with Ami. And it is in our interest not to break that promise because hell hath no fury like a QM scorned.
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Jirayia literally just told Hazou that she is blackmailing him with secrets a thousand levels above Hazou's clearance.
@Roomba , @Tua , Thanks for the explanation. I remember (way back) how we were going to make Waka (and yes, I know that he's not a Wakahisa anymore, but he'll always be "Waka" to me ) the social-specced face of the group, but then Hazou ended up doing most of the face stuff anyway (both punchy and not punchy), with appropriate consequences.
Really, our team is topsy-turvy at this point:
) the social-specced face of the group, but then Hazou ended up doing most of the face stuff anyway (both punchy and not punchy), with appropriate consequences.Really, our team is topsy-turvy at this point:
- Our strongest fighter is a Mori.
- Our best spokesnin is a Wakahisa, but he almost never gets to do it.
- Our planning and logistics are provided by a Kurosawa.
Tua
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SHIKAKU: I see. By switching your traditional clan roles around just like our ancestors did you acknowledge the merit of stimulating change to improve the world while at the same time you signal your willingness to ally with us in a way only we would understand. How cunning and subtle, indeed.
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On another note from the Ami thing...
I'm looking forward to getting back to Leaf when we can hopefully have some real free time to do stuff we want instead of constant training.
Like, for instance, helping train academy students. We can make them absolute terrors for their teachers by working to teach them Hazou-level creativity.
I'm looking forward to getting back to Leaf when we can hopefully have some real free time to do stuff we want instead of constant training.
Like, for instance, helping train academy students. We can make them absolute terrors for their teachers by working to teach them Hazou-level creativity.
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While we're at it, your boss is the acknowledged leader of a major village, your fellow genin are irreplaceable clan heirs, and your group's second-in-command responsible for the people stuff is... actually still Mari. That woman is good at what she does.@Roomba , @Tua , Thanks for the explanation. I remember (way back) how we were going to make Waka (and yes, I know that he's not a Wakahisa anymore, but he'll always be "Waka" to me
Really, our team is topsy-turvy at this point:
- Our strongest fighter is a Mori.
- Our best spokesnin is a Wakahisa, but he almost never gets to do it.
- Our planning and logistics are provided by a Kurosawa.
Our next stop is probably Mountain. It's time, the group is an irreplaceable entry, J desperately needs to rack up another big win before the clock runs out, and it lets @Velorien keep us stewing about Akane's fate for another six months real-time.
Emstar
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At some point in the not-so-distant future, Umino Iruka will look back and decide that this is exactly where it all went wrong.
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I foresee a
Well, that's more of an Adults are Not Useless matter. I am not really complaining, just reminiscing of what we were planning at the start of the quest and how things turned out.
Emstar
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We also get to establish a solid support base in the supersoldiers of ten years from now.
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*screams internally with a perfectly calm facial expression in Shikaku*
Cariyaga
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Really, Shikaku's estimation of us is bound to wildly oscillate with our every action.
Emstar
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Shikaku likely estimates us with a drunken walk.
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That's crazy talk. Obviously Zabuza wouldn't have taken the place of one of the clan kids, that's insane.
Obviously he'd slip in as his own clan, because Hazou has been Zabuza this whole time. Think about it, the incident in hot springs increasing Mist's influence in the main land plus added troops to put pressure on the opposing nations, setting up a clan that starts off influential from the get go while conveniently setting up for a potential alliance with Mist, creating a powerful tri-village alliance that rock the world? The Mist's Kage being "kidnapped"? This whole thing was a set up from the start! Clearly the real Hazo has been dead since day 1! Wake up sheeple!
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Makes sense. Why else would Hazou have rolled Taijutsu in the 400s in the early chapters?
Zabuza was clearly still adjusting to genin level skills and he slipped up (sometimes being so incredibly powerful and handsome can be a curse).
Fortunately, he adjusted quickly and now restricts himself to Taijutsu levels of a Chunin candidate.
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I just want to point out that "drunk-walk" is a relatively common term in hard sci fi for starship evasive patterns.