The weird one was the most culpable, but also the one whose gloating manner was so confusing that Neji didn't want to smite him until he knew more.

I have read enough romance manga to know that this line right there is all but a guarantee that Neji and Noburi will hook up.

Neat. Didn't even have to do anything to turn Neji since it just happened organically.
 
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I have read enough romance manga to know that this line right there is all but a guarantee that Neji and Noburi will hook up.

Neat. Didn't even have to do anything to turn Neji since it just happened organically.
Hazou is the weird one.

Noburi is clearly the impertinent one :p
 
Hazou is the weird one.

Noburi is clearly the impertinent one :p

But isn't Noburi the one that mocks Neji and gloats at him all the time?

I mean, not that it matters which one of the Goketsu he ends up with, as long as he becomes ours to mold.
 
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Then, once the upstart was properly crushed, with Lady Hanabi at the height of her power and trusting him as her mentor...

"Come back during my lunch break, Lady Hanabi," he said with a satisfied smile. "It seems you and I have much to discuss."
Hmmm. He doesn't seem as properly cowed as either we or Hiashi want him. Perhaps we should ask Keiko to break him again when he comes back out?

Either way, hopefully Keiko will start learning from Hanabi too, so she'll be able to do the "I am a noble, fear my wrath" thing too.
 
@Players: I apologize in advance for dooming all of us.
@GMs: Is this broken? If not, is it too similar to Frozen Skein?

Shattered Heart (Boodline of the Kakero)

This sensor bloodline grants an instinctive ability to analyze patterns in the environment, manifesting as a form of hypersensitive empathy.

Practically, this means that its holders can intuit that some things are "lost", displaced from their native pattern: and that some patterns are "broken", missing some critical component that would make them whole.

This has the following benefits:
- The ability to notice extremely subtle disturbances, such as those left behind by a set trap, camouflaged ninja, or cover-up.
- The ability to blend into existing patterns without disrupting them.
- The ability to make intuitive leaps by observing how a new piece of information fits into a larger pattern. This ability is most likely to manifest in extremely complex, multilayered environments where there are many patterns to observe: it is also particularly likely in circumstances where one pattern strongly correlates another, especially in a symbolically meaningful way.
The reasoning that leads to these startling insights is rarely if ever explicable, but they can be unnervingly precise.
- The ability to rapidly immerse oneself in an archetypal role, by intuiting the confines of "expected behaviour" and staying firmly within them.
- Similarly, the ability to rapidly internalize and act upon new orders or duties.
- An unusually deep understanding of one's own nature, leading to strong Chakra control and unusually high willpower.

Unfortunately, this hypersensitive empathy is a double-edged sword. Its common issues include:
- The inability to dehumanize the enemy, resulting in unusually high trauma rates.
- The perception of deceit as damage both to the world and the self, rendering lying extremely stressful.
- Treating the mending of trivial flaws as more important than one's own well-being.
- Inability to rest or relax in most non-Kakero-maintained environments.
- Stubborn adherence to pattern in the face of all reason.
- Stunted social skills, due to the inability
to engage casually with others.
- Depression and anxiety, due to the inability to stop noticing all the world's flaws.

The following flawed coping mechanisms are also common:
- Social flightiness, due to attempting to socialize without becoming close to anyone.
- Establishment of a "domain", a set of people, places and things that the bloodline holder treats as literal parts of themselves. (This is an attempt to cut down on information overload by specifying exactly which things the holder cares about. In practice, it leads to the holder trying to micromanage their relationships, destroying them in the process.)
- Being unable to "put down" an archetypal role used as a social mask: becoming overly invested in status games and maintaining one's position.
- Misanthropy, cynicism or outright nihilism, due to believing the world is fundamentally flawed.
- In cases where bloodline holders are unable to cope with its abilites, it has been known for them to attempt to "turn off" their own sense of empathy. This kind of repression is both inherently damaging and rarely successful: when it does succeed, it results in a sociopathic manipulator who has an uncanny awareness of their victims' weak points. Those of the Kakero that are distrustful and cunning enough to hide this downslide from their own clan often go on to become highly dangerous missing-nin.
 
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But isn't the Noburi the one that mocks Neji and gloats at him all the time?

I mean, not that it matters which one of the Goketsu he ends up with, as long as he becomes ours to mold.

I don't really think Noburi fits as "weird" while Hazou probably trips all sorts of mixed signals and alarm bells to pretty much everyone we talk to ever, so I would conclude Noburi is the "impertinent" one.


But he'd confirmed the important part. No matter how powerful his uplifted mudcrawler of an opponent might be, she shared with most of mankind the critical flaw of not being a Hyūga. She could not teach Lady Hanabi how to use her natural superiority as a noble, against which all of Gōketsu's petty tricks would be as nothing. With the full glory of the Hyūga in one hand and Gōketsu's unholy powers in the other, the student would surpass the master, and Neji would be there at her side to guide her ascension.

Then, once the upstart was properly crushed, with Lady Hanabi at the height of her power and trusting him as her mentor...

"Come back during my lunch break, Lady Hanabi," he said with a satisfied smile. "It seems you and I have much to discuss."

In which Neji tries to counter Keiko's Dark Lord-ing and launches a plan to topple the dynasty, but he has no idea how out of his depth he is or exactly who he's messing with.

Keiko is going to obliterate this man.
 
On first glance I would probably turn the Kakero into living lie detectors which could be pretty OP if this works how I imagine it does:

Practically, this means that its holders can intuit that some things are "lost", displaced from their native pattern: and that some patterns are "broken", missing some critical component that would make them whole.

If someone were instructed to speak the verifiable truth for, I don't know, four to five sentences before an interrogation and then the interrogation would start proper, would any subsequent lie register a broken pattern by the Kakero?


If the answer is no then:
I'd feed the Kakero as many facts as possible about a person of interest so they could internalize how said person works and acts. I'd then ask them to say various things back to me with the goal being to find whatever makes them uncomfortable:
The perception of deceit as damage both to the world and the self, rendering lying extremely stressful.

To give an example:

You suspect Person A to have be a spy but you know quite a few things about him via background checks. You tell everything you know to the Kakeru then make them say things like:

- I am loyal to Konoha
- I am loyal to Mist
- I am loyal only to myself

And so on until you trigger the line that makes the Kakero uncomfortable and that would then be the lie you were after (assuming the background information you fed them was correct).
 
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@Players: I apologize in advance for dooming all of us.
@GMs: Is this broken? If not, is it too similar to Frozen Skein?

Shattered Heart (Boodline of the Kakero)

This sensor bloodline grants an instinctive ability to analyze patterns in the environment, manifesting as a form of hypersensitive empathy.

Practically, this means that its holders can intuit that some things are "lost", displaced from their native pattern: and that some patterns are "broken", missing some critical component that would make them whole.

This has the following benefits:
- The ability to notice extremely subtle disturbances, such as those left behind by a set trap, camouflaged ninja, or cover-up.
- The ability to blend into existing patterns without disrupting them.
- The ability to make intuitive leaps by observing how a new piece of information fits into a larger pattern. This ability is most likely to manifest in extremely complex, multilayered environments where there are many patterns to observe: it is also particularly likely in circumstances where one pattern strongly correlates another, especially in a symbolically meaningful way.
The reasoning that leads to these startling insights is rarely if ever explicable, but they can be unnervingly precise.
- The ability to rapidly immerse oneself in an archetypal role, by intuiting the confines of "expected behaviour" and staying firmly within them.
- Similarly, the ability to rapidly internalize and act upon new orders or duties.
- An unusually deep understanding of one's own nature, leading to strong Chakra control and unusually high willpower.

Unfortunately, this hypersensitive empathy is a double-edged sword. Its common issues include:
- The inability to dehumanize the enemy, resulting in unusually high trauma rates.
- The perception of deceit as damage both to the world and the self, rendering lying extremely stressful.
- Treating the mending of trivial flaws as more important than one's own well-being.
- Inability to rest or relax in most non-Kakero-maintained environments.
- Stubborn adherence to pattern in the face of all reason.
- Stunted social skills, due to the inability
to engage casually with others.
- Depression and anxiety, due to the inability to stop noticing all the world's flaws.

The following flawed coping mechanisms are also common:
- Social flightiness, due to attempting to socialize without becoming close to anyone.
- Establishment of a "domain", a set of people, places and things that the bloodline holder treats as literal parts of themselves. (This is an attempt to cut down on information overload by specifying exactly which things the holder cares about. In practice, it leads to the holder trying to micromanage their relationships, destroying them in the process.)
- Being unable to "put down" an archetypal role used as a social mask: becoming overly invested in status games and maintaining one's position.
- Misanthropy, cynicism or outright nihilism, due to believing the world is fundamentally flawed.
- In cases where bloodline holders are unable to cope with its abilites, it has been known for them to attempt to "turn off" their own sense of empathy. This kind of repression is both inherently damaging and rarely successful: when it does succeed, it results in a sociopathic manipulator who has an uncanny awareness of their victims' weak points. Those of the Kakero that are distrustful and cunning enough to hide this downslide from their own clan often go on to become highly dangerous missing-nin.

I can see that you're a follower of the @Velorien school of bloodline design, wherein they primarily exist to psychologically torture their bearers.
 
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Not to alarm people but this has got to be the most blatant hint the QM gave us about Zabuza's current location and disguise.
And thus the question becomes: Why is this Zabuza so important that the QMs see the need to point him out to us?

Alternatively, what is happening that the QMs feel the need to draw our attention with a distraction Zabuza?
 
@Players: I apologize in advance for dooming all of us.
@GMs: Is this broken? If not, is it too similar to Frozen Skein?

Shattered Heart (Boodline of the Kakero)

This sensor bloodline grants an instinctive ability to analyze patterns in the environment, manifesting as a form of hypersensitive empathy.

Practically, this means that its holders can intuit that some things are "lost", displaced from their native pattern: and that some patterns are "broken", missing some critical component that would make them whole.

This has the following benefits:
- The ability to notice extremely subtle disturbances, such as those left behind by a set trap, camouflaged ninja, or cover-up.
- The ability to blend into existing patterns without disrupting them.
- The ability to make intuitive leaps by observing how a new piece of information fits into a larger pattern. This ability is most likely to manifest in extremely complex, multilayered environments where there are many patterns to observe: it is also particularly likely in circumstances where one pattern strongly correlates another, especially in a symbolically meaningful way.
The reasoning that leads to these startling insights is rarely if ever explicable, but they can be unnervingly precise.
- The ability to rapidly immerse oneself in an archetypal role, by intuiting the confines of "expected behaviour" and staying firmly within them.
- Similarly, the ability to rapidly internalize and act upon new orders or duties.
- An unusually deep understanding of one's own nature, leading to strong Chakra control and unusually high willpower.

Unfortunately, this hypersensitive empathy is a double-edged sword. Its common issues include:
- The inability to dehumanize the enemy, resulting in unusually high trauma rates.
- The perception of deceit as damage both to the world and the self, rendering lying extremely stressful.
- Treating the mending of trivial flaws as more important than one's own well-being.
- Inability to rest or relax in most non-Kakero-maintained environments.
- Stubborn adherence to pattern in the face of all reason.
- Stunted social skills, due to the inability
to engage casually with others.
- Depression and anxiety, due to the inability to stop noticing all the world's flaws.

The following flawed coping mechanisms are also common:
- Social flightiness, due to attempting to socialize without becoming close to anyone.
- Establishment of a "domain", a set of things and places that the bloodline holder treats as literal parts of themselves. (This is an attempt to cut down on information overload by specifying exactly which things the holder cares about. In practice, it leads to the holder trying to micromanage their relationships, destroying them in the process.)
- Being unable to "put down" an archetypal role used as a social mask: becoming overly invested in status games and maintaining one's position.
- Misanthropy, cynicism or outright nihilism, due to believing the world is fundamentally flawed.
- In cases where bloodline holders are unable to cope with its abilites, it has been known for them to attempt to "turn off" their own sense of empathy. This kind of repression is both inherently damaging and rarely successful: when it does succeed, it results in a sociopathic manipulator who has an uncanny awareness of their victims' weak points. Those of the Kakero that are distrustful and cunning enough to hide this downslide from their own clan generally go on to become highly dangerous missing-nin.
Nice. I like your choice of theme, you apply it creatively to both strengths and weaknesses, and there's a variety of material to work with.

My main criticism is that it ties together a lot of elements which are not really related to each other. It's better than having technique-copying eyeballs that can set things on ever-burning fire, summon chakra mechs or rewrite causality, but it comes across as "if it involves patterns, you can do it", which isn't quite how sane Bloodline Limits work. Compare the Byakugan: "We have super vision, and because we can see your chakra, we can see how to shut it down", as opposed to having a variety of powers relating to the general concept of vision.

(It says much about the Narutoverse that I have to specify "sane", as distinct from the likes of the Rinnegan.)

It also has to be said that the benefits err on the practical side while the flaws err on the social/roleplaying side. (Of course, the personality flaws would probably be less obvious to the players if they encountered a Kakero NPC.)

These two key features do make it broken in my opinion. If I were to introduce this Bloodline Limit into MfD, I would limit the number of positive features to two or three, and the negatives to one or two, and make sure the negative features come up regularly and influence the PC's capabilities/behaviour.

RE the Frozen Skein, I don't think the overlap is strong enough, or at least the Shattered Heart's features could be pared down to those that minimise it. It would also have interesting interactions with certain worldbuilding features that have yet to come into play.
 
On first glance I would probably turn the Kakero into living lie detectors which could be pretty OP if this works how I imagine it does:



If someone were instructed to speak the verifiable truth for, I don't know, four to five sentences before an interrogation and then the interrogation would start proper, would any subsequent lie register a broken pattern by the Kakero?


If the answer is no then:
I'd feed the Kakero as many facts as possible about a person of interest so they could internalize how said person works and acts. I'd then ask them to say various things back to me with the goal being to find whatever makes them uncomfortable:


To give an example:

You suspect Person A to have be a spy but you know quite a few things about him via background checks. You tell everything you know to the Kakeru then make them say things like:

- I am loyal to Konoha
- I am loyal to Mist
- I am loyal only to myself

And so on until you trigger the line that makes the Kakero uncomfortable and that would then be the lie you were after (assuming the background information you fed them was correct).

Situation A is not possible: the patterns the Kakero have an instinctive line to are natural, living things, which can't be artificially manufactured. (This is also why they aren't sealing geniuses, though their bloodline does provide them a certain measure of safety most others don't have: they're much more likely to notice a flawed blank before they try to infuse it.)

The second is more accurate, but would require direct observation by the Kakero over an extended period - you can't just tell them about the person, they have to observe their behaviour themselves. (In much the same way that you can't describe how a technique you witnessed works to a Uchiha and have them become able to copy it flawlessly.)
 
You're right, why would he stop us from killing filthy Mist ninja?

I wasn't actually talking about killing Mist ninja but Leaf ones because of this phrasing:

Be honest and ask how to deal with powerful clan elders that kicked out one of their own because of a 'mistake' and now you have to play nice and not go full Itachi on them?

I basically read that as:

HAZOU: Yo, H-man. I come in peace and figured we could have a chat. I got kicked out of my clan in Mist and now I have to pretend to be nice to those responsible. Which is kinda hard because I got this urge to kill my clan.

HIASHI: Who are you? How did you even get here?

HAZOU: I also had this urge to turn missing-nin and join a different organization but that ship has already sailed so nevermind that.

HIASHI: Guards!

HAZOU: So what do you say? You got any advice to stop me from turning insane and killing people or not?

HIASHI: You know what, Jiraiya can keep the Hat. He deserves that and more if he has to deal with you on a daily basis. Now get out.

And thus the question becomes: Why is this Zabuza so important that the QMs see the need to point him out to us?

I can't help but feel slighted for some reason.
 
One fucking message and it has infected the whole hivemind, only Akane managed this before with the power of Youth.
It's only expected: as I previously said, Ami included that emoticon as the opening salvo of her psychological warfare against us.

Think about it: how likely it is that she would independently invent the emoticons in a culture so alien to our own, and design one of her emoticons in a way that so closely resembles our classic "Asian smiley face"? Well, it's reasonably likely, and by itself doesn't signal much.

... Except if we look at it from an outsider's point of view, and realize how convenient and effective it ended up being. She just happened to do it during her first direct interaction with Hazou? Something so well-aimed, so coincidentally unnerving... to us, to the hivemind controlling Hazou? Of course not. We expected her to surprise us, and she did it by targeting us: she took advantage of the existing "Ami date" meme to implant her own meme into our collective. Probably as a warning.

But have no fear. Even though she just proved that she is capable of manipulating us, even though the Fourth Wall does not protect us from her insights, I am confident that we will be able to subvert her every attempt to subvert us. Half of us are lupchanzen, after all.

I repeat: it will be fun.
 
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My main criticism is that it ties together a lot of elements which are not really related to each other. It's better than having technique-copying eyeballs that can set things on ever-burning fire, summon chakra mechs or rewrite causality,
I recently read a fanfiction that had the sharingan only do genjutsu. All the other stuff is Uchiha bullshiting because genjutsu is way easier to get out of and resist if you know that you are in a genjutsu. The clan went to pains to exaggerated the power of their bloodline.
 
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