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I'm not specifying what kind of injury. Chakra MC is fine.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
'Friendly participants' (above) agree, let them join. Treat their teammates/objectives normally.
-> 'Friendly participants' (above) agree, let them join. Treat their teammates/objectives as we would without them being here.
"Normally" is a bit unclear. Lets not worry about XP here, since this one is a really important plan and needs to read smoothly.
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So what do people think of this? As in, we give ISC points and let them return the favor later?
Done.
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Oh fuck it. Three options, discuss them.
- Offer pre-determined friendlies (e.g., ISC) the chance to join our group. Treat their teammates as if they were our enemies. If they decline, treat them as enemies.
- Drain pre-determined friendlies to Moderate Consequences, don't KO/steal word halves. Restrain (?) them.
- Offer to trade ISC: We give them Red Teams for points this round, and they do the same for us next round.
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
And we know ISC is Blue because?
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We don't, unfortunately. I brought up @Tua's idea because it seemed not-bad at first glance so wanted to discuss further. Supposing they are Blue, should we do this?
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- US
It makes our life objectively harder? The hardest would be if they were our opponent, but for other reasons I think that's Kurenai and/or 2/3 other top teams that Mist wouldn't mind seeing defeated at the expense of us making it through (or passing through by defeating us)
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I should really learn my lesson and stop writing plans for Saturday deadlines. It just never works out well.
In any case, it's around 12 hours before the deadline, so I'm freezing my plan and going to sleep. I'm certainly not adding any excessively complex point penalty schemes. Anyone who wants to keep working on things is encouraged to switch their vote to @faflec's plan.
Just addressing some comments before I go.
That doesn't make any sense. The whole thing is set up in such a way that, for example, reds are encouraged to retrieve their captured comrades, even after turning the documents in. The rules explicitly say the event ends after 24 hours, after proctors arrive at the sites. This just seems like baseless paranoia to me.
Sounds good in principle, but I have no clue how to actually achieve it.
We're not promising them protection; we're saying that we'll go public with our half words and won't help them if they get in trouble as a result. If, however, they let us have all the half words, we'll say so publically, therefore removing any reason for them to be targeted. We're offering to take all the heat for the half word theft, in essence.
The abbreviated language of the plan does a poor job of expressing this, but @eaglejarl read it correctly nonetheless, so it should be fine.
In any case, it's around 12 hours before the deadline, so I'm freezing my plan and going to sleep. I'm certainly not adding any excessively complex point penalty schemes. Anyone who wants to keep working on things is encouraged to switch their vote to @faflec's plan.
Just addressing some comments before I go.
That doesn't make any sense. The whole thing is set up in such a way that, for example, reds are encouraged to retrieve their captured comrades, even after turning the documents in. The rules explicitly say the event ends after 24 hours, after proctors arrive at the sites. This just seems like baseless paranoia to me.
Sounds good in principle, but I have no clue how to actually achieve it.
We're not promising them protection; we're saying that we'll go public with our half words and won't help them if they get in trouble as a result. If, however, they let us have all the half words, we'll say so publically, therefore removing any reason for them to be targeted. We're offering to take all the heat for the half word theft, in essence.
The abbreviated language of the plan does a poor job of expressing this, but @eaglejarl read it correctly nonetheless, so it should be fine.
If the Blue Team members are taken to the medics, they cannot earn positive points for the round.
We could, by the way, reduce the losses of Team Asuma by making them an exception to that, if we care.
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
Yes. I am in support of 3 if they are Blue this Round. Obviously if they are Red we offer for them to join the horde.
Other friendlies: Surrender is the only option: Chakra drain, no KO, we don't take word halves.
Sorry, Doigama we know that ISC will not break their word, and its our squad thats doing the brunt of the work here in this strategy. Please respect this.
I can support "punch everyone including ISC". It nicely deals with the bullshit we have to put up with otherwise. Just do whatever is needed to maximise points and if Shikamaru is pissed then remind him that the Nara's current power partially rests on our performance.
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I can't tell if you guys are liking this for sympathy or because you actually want me to do this.*sigh* We should just punch people. Screw the whole friendly thing.
Life is so much simpler that way
*sigh* Like this if you want us to punch everyone and screw the whole friendly thing.
Noumero
Omit Needless Words
Thoughts:
- We don't need to let friendly participants of other teams join. It is our plan and our firepower, and ISC are our allies. Our temporary teammates will have to recognize our limited generosity for what it is.
- If we're cooperating with ISC: try to interrogate our Blue Team, find out if they know whether Squad Asuma is Red or Blue this round.
Part about Pankurashun: unnecessary micro-managing, Keiko knows how to intimidate people on her own.
Where are we having all these conversations on how to manipulate our new teammates, how to handle Katou and so on? Not in front of their eyes. We need to have an Uplift-only discussion in an Air Dome, possibly under the pretense of discussing clan secrets.
If we're cooperating with ISC, perhaps we should go to their quadrant first?
Original rules explicitly state that this doesn't happen. It seems very unlikely.
I'd suggest deleting it to decrease wordcount (do we still care about it?), or replace it with a contingency in case we're about to be assassinated.
I agree, we should just kill everyone.*sigh* We should just punch people. Screw the whole friendly thing.
Life is so much simpler that way
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- USA
Tbh ninja sweat too. I could totally believe a good sniff while they're down and out would ensure their scents are ready for tracking on Round 2 independently of placed scents
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Goo Bombs don't last that long, sadly. Deafening is a possibility but technically the rules state that they need to be able to speak. And Mist will fuck us on that technicality.
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- The state of Paranoia
Nope. I want Eaglejarl to skip the whole unfriendly thing. Unfortunately, I don't think he will, because Velorien will be there, egging him on to our destruction via talking and opsec.
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- Potato land
One final thing, as I see some calls for using Team Asuma's techniques to control other candidates: Consider that they also have chakra costs. And consider that mind-controlling a candidate into doing anything with major rules enforcement implications, like going to the medical station, may very well be ruled as interfering with the adjudication of the event, with all the consequences of such.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
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Damn, I think they're right; we can't actually accept surrender or fealty, because otherwise we'll have a deathball of more than sixteen people which everybody either immediately surrenders or joins, which defeats the whole purpose of actually having the deathball and moderate consequencing everybody.
I think we pretty much have to declare that no surrender will be given or taken, nor fealty accepted; no point in building a fuckhuge murderball if there's nobody left to punch.
Revised plan:
Damn, I think they're right; we can't actually accept surrender or fealty, because otherwise we'll have a deathball of more than sixteen people which everybody either immediately surrenders or joins, which defeats the whole purpose of actually having the deathball and moderate consequencing everybody.
I think we pretty much have to declare that no surrender will be given or taken, nor fealty accepted; no point in building a fuckhuge murderball if there's nobody left to punch.
Revised plan:
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Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They