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- Actually pretty lost
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Oh you cheeky scoundrel.
Given their espoused views this update, they'll all be putting our names down - so we should be doing the same.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
More like steam engine engineering than programming IIRC.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Nice try. No call by reference allowed. If you want to do it, it needs to be in the plan directly.
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- Yes.
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[X] Action Plan: Topsy Turvy
General:
[X] Action Plan: Topsy Turvy
General:
- Discuss plan with teammates as appropriate.
- Exception: First two big bullets of STL.
- Keep OPSEC in mind.
- Ask STL whether or not to list each other's information in ballot.
- Akane: Apologize (re: OPSEC); talk more after Event.
- Team Clanless: Coordinate/share information from other Leaf teams (below).
- Stay near teammates, avoid ambush places.
- With other non-STL Leaf teams: Fairly trade intel for intel/aid in...
- ...finding counterparts.
- ...finding next Event.
- ...the next Event.
- Use sweat to find disguised ninjas.
- Check: Nobody's spying on us.
- Use our available information to score points: Fill out everything we know.
- Possible exception: STL (see above).
- Guess name/team/village/role for all ninja we are unsure of. Determine most probable cases using logic.
- Securely report to Jiraiya.
- Investigate next Event:
- Coordinate with STL:
- Investigate outside city (East Gate).
- Chat up lockbox-making blacksmith.
- Speak with Yakuza.
- Coordinate with STL:
- Securely ask Neji re: Bloodrage update.
- Confirm undisguised proctors are unHenge'd before following their orders.
- Watch for table flips. Avoid crowds & prepare to run without giving away ninja status.
- Lower activity when nearing deadline.
- If someone publicly releases our names release our list (with STL removed).
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
tbh, apologizing to Akane after the event would be best. If she brings it up, CCNJ that it would be best to talk about while not surrounded by loads of ninja.
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
I haven't read the chapter yet, so I apologize if I'm interrupting everyone's screaming, but I have a question. If I recall correctly, Hiruzen died because Yagura got close, and Hiruzen couldn't open distance fast enough. Isn't that pretty much the best part of skywalkers in combat? Being able to keep your squishy ranged/ninjutsu users out of reach of the enemy melee types? How did Yagura get close to Hiruzen? Some kind of teleportation, flight, or super jump ability? Hiruzen had taken a wound, so did that have something to do with it?
Here's the quote (emphasis mine):
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- Yes.
IIRC Hiruzen botched his first roll, giving him massive negative die. Maybe he and Yagura were closely matched, and his bad roll fucked him for subsequent combat?
Akane knows we spoke carelessly rather than maliciously, so pointing that out doesn't from her perspective make things any better since it doesn't make us less likely to do it again. It also doesn't make things worse, and shows that we understand how and why we hurt her, so we might as well start with it. But we need more. We could make a commitment to her to requesting more intensive OPSEC training from Mari? I'm not sure what else to suggest beyond that other than "let her rant at us and don't try to defend ourself".
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- Potato land
This is a bad time for this, let's leave it until the event is over.
I think what should go in here is something like:
Talk privately with Akane's team
- Unconditionally offer all of your info as thanks for her help
- Advise them to identify all Leaf ninja whose details they know during the ballot
- Does Akane really want to after Urahara, given their history together? (Oblique reference to Cold Stone Killers which still makes me nervous as hell)
- Head off any drama or recriminations, you'll talk after the event
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- Yes.
I don't know what to suggest, either. I do feel that we should address this quickly: having her pissed at us would screw with our ability to coordinate (unless we don't intend to use that?).
Edit: @Roomba Good point, I'll do that instead.
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- Yes.
Alright, changed "Apologize to Akane" to "Talk with Team Clanless", and shrunk @Roomba's suggestions for word counting reasons. Could someone check to see if there are any obvious fuckups here?
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- Yes.
I mean...Akane does, and I feel that knocking Urahara would be a good start as an apology. Perhaps not "attack" attack, but more "screw him over".
>imb4 Mist put Urahara as our counterpart.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
We should simply apologize, and let her know that we are sorry for breaking OPSEC without consulting her. State that we would never even consider it except in the presence of allies. Let her know that we understand that we overreached and made a bad call here, but we were in the moment and needed to share the information for tactical reasons, which always takes precedence. Assure her that we care about her and her situation (being a clanless ninja without access to secret techniques or bloodlines), and that we will do everything we can to make it up to her once more pressing matters are taken care of.
Be sure to use this exact wording.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
@faflec
NOTE: We can probably get away with asking the non STL Leaf nin for Chakra and or a favour (take out Urahara?, find our counterpart?) in addition to the info they may have. We have a lot.
NOTE WELL: We do not know if people are actually drunk or if our mist just sparked a mini-brawl.
NOTE VERY WELL: Make sure any convo with Akane that even hints about Hot Springs are private. In fact maybe don't even bring this up
NOTE: We can probably get away with asking the non STL Leaf nin for Chakra and or a favour (take out Urahara?, find our counterpart?) in addition to the info they may have. We have a lot.
NOTE WELL: We do not know if people are actually drunk or if our mist just sparked a mini-brawl.
NOTE VERY WELL: Make sure any convo with Akane that even hints about Hot Springs are private. In fact maybe don't even bring this up
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- Yes.
Yeah, I'm kinda worried about the whole "Hot Springs" thing, considering getting rid of it. Everyone else and especially @Roomba, thoughts?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
I mean, we explicitly don't know why Urahara's after Akane, just that he is. That's pretty metagamey.
I agree with asking other Leaf teams for help finding our secret partner.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
While I was most concerned about that due to shitty shorty fallout reasons, i think it would be okay if we just dropped any other explanation except for "Going after him".
I will note that a serious concern is that most ninja aren't actually drunk at all, and so a significant part of our strategy for capitalizing on the chaos is rendered moot. It may very well be the case that the 25% DQ is all we are going to get there from that plan.
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- Yes.
Aight then, getting rid of that. Any thoughts on how to convince other Leaf teams into helping us find our counterpart? My plan calls for info trade, but what can we offer beyond that?
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
We can offer to give them freebies for the matchmaking service.
We can notify them the location of the next event when we figure it out, assuming there is one.
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- Yes.
The current plan:
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- Potato land
About apologizing to Akane after the event, the problem runs deeper than a stupid opsec slip. Yes, Hazou didn't need to tell Hinata everything this update, but breaking opsec on EM was very much part of the original plan. As @Velorien pointed out, the logistics of getting everyone together into the safe zone made it very difficult to hide the fact that Akane was the one responsible. And I knew this when writing that plan, it even included Hazou saying it to his teammates.
So yes, we very intentionally traded the secret of EM for not getting eliminated out of the exam. I think this is something Hazou will have to explain before apologizing for anything. And then, I guess we'll see where the chips fall.
I think, incidentally, that we as a thread have overestimated Akane's understanding of what it means to be involved with a de facto clan heir. Her proposal to Jiraiya made us think she had thought all of this through and was prepared for the unpleasantness of clan politics. I'm starting to think that's not true and that this whole situation - not just the EM thing but the conversation between clan heirs she was witness to this update - is really opening her eyes to the reality of our situation.
So yes, we very intentionally traded the secret of EM for not getting eliminated out of the exam. I think this is something Hazou will have to explain before apologizing for anything. And then, I guess we'll see where the chips fall.
I think, incidentally, that we as a thread have overestimated Akane's understanding of what it means to be involved with a de facto clan heir. Her proposal to Jiraiya made us think she had thought all of this through and was prepared for the unpleasantness of clan politics. I'm starting to think that's not true and that this whole situation - not just the EM thing but the conversation between clan heirs she was witness to this update - is really opening her eyes to the reality of our situation.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
I don't think we should go on a wild goose chase trying to manipulate drunk ninja that may or may not exist.
Maybe remove that and expand a bit more on matchmaking service? We can have people request "dates" with certain qualities (they can describe their counterparts secret role)
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- Yes.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Did Akane and co. already get the information Shikamaru gave us?
Good ideas, I'll implement.