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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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MadScientist said:
Friendly reminder that if Hazou went without sleep, he could make 10K seals in less than a week.

...and having gone without sleep, he would be that much more likely to use them.
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Huh, I generally assumed he could make like a hundred seals per day, welp the more you know.

Storage seals modified for civillians has a beam that can be interacted with by anything (I think), so if we assemble enough of them and arranged them properly, we can possibly make a primitive computer. Now if we can just make a good enough propulsion system, we can make guided missiles!
 
On a scale of 1 to Kagome will most likely kill you, how difficult would it be to modify a storage seal to suck living beings and expel them into the void with no chance of recovery?
 
It was implied that a storage seal capable of ingesting living things is possible, but very difficult, and this process would inevitably kill the target. It doesn't sound that useful as a weapon either, relative to just blowing people up.

Now, a seal that could store people without killing them would be amazing,
 
Roomba said:
It was implied that a storage seal capable of ingesting living things is possible, but very difficult, and this process would inevitably kill the target. It doesn't sound that useful as a weapon either, relative to just blowing people up.

Now, a seal that could store people without killing them would be amazing,
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Fūinjutsu Trap

Appears only in the anime, meaning it's filler and therefore not MfD-compliant. Still, it's a thing that Naruto (semi-)canon had.

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DuManHeiu said:
How much thrust would 362 life saving seals produce if they were stuck in a barrel and activated r the same time?
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Quick quote from the rules doc regarding storage seals:

When a storage seal is triggered, it places a discrete object in the space immediately in front of the seal face into a timeless pocket space. When unstored by triggering the seal again, objects appear in the space orthogonal to the seal face. Objects need ~0 velocity relative to the seal to be stored, and emerge with ~0 velocity relative to the seal when unstored.

In the event of obstruction, the object fails to appear. If the seal is destroyed when an obstruction is in place, the object appears in the nearest available low-density space (i.e. air), damaged as though you'd hit it with a sledgehammer a fair few times.

(EDIT of EDIT: Because I know someone is going to think of this: before you start doing experiments on whether or not "the nearest available low-density space" can be a mile away if you unseal something underground, may I suggest asking Kagome or Jiraiya? You might want to bring earplugs and a helmet.)

DuManHeiu said:
Also, I know this is kinda late, or that maybe someone already said it but, could we maybe place explosives around any fort we build beyond the trap ring, so if anyone ever surrounds us we can just blow them all up.
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To be honest, it never dawned on me that you hadn't done that.
 
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eaglejarl said:
Fūinjutsu Trap

Appears only in the anime, meaning it's filler and therefore not MfD-compliant. Still, it's a thing that Naruto (semi-)canon had.
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eaglejarl said:
"Time? You think being out of time is a joke?" the ninja snapped, poking him with the knife again. "You think it was funny that time that Kawaguchi accidentally put himself in storage and came out all mangled up?" The knife jabbed Hazou lightly in the back.
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I think @Roomba's talking about this.
 
Are we allowed to know what Kagome would have demanded to teach Hazou if he didn't roll a 1? I've always been curious how badly that exchange should or would have gone (or if he beat us, would we have been blown up and had to start over?).
 
The storage seal thing reminds me that iIshould read the rules doc to see if I can think some interesting sealing ideas, especially since I don't remember a lot of the seals we have .
Also the nearest space thing is interesting because it means storage seals can throw things outside a container, maybe that has some usefull applications.
 
Citrus said:
Are we allowed to know what Kagome would have demanded to teach Hazou if he didn't roll a 1? I've always been curious how badly that exchange should or would have gone (or if he beat us, would we have been blown up and had to start over?).
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For reference of people who weren't around at the time: The previous system used d100s. Kagome rolled a 1.
 
About storage seals and macerators , what if we put the seal on a whip , accelerating it to insane speeds before triggering it , launching its contents absurdly fast.
This is really dangerous for the user but hazou should be able to do it consistently whith Iron Nerve .
 
FieryStarVictory said:
About storage seals and macerators , what if we put the seal on a whip , accelerating it to insane speeds before triggering it , launching its contents absurdly fast.
This is really dangerous for the user but hazou should be able to do it consistently whith Iron Nerve .
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This is definitely something we should bring up to Jiraiya though, under the context of "war-changing innovations".

e: Also, sorry @eaglejarl, we finally worked out how to build a gun. You were right all along, I'm sorry I ever doubted you.
 
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Citrus said:
Are we allowed to know what Kagome would have demanded to teach Hazou if he didn't roll a 1? I've always been curious how badly that exchange should or would have gone (or if he beat us, would we have been blown up and had to start over?).
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He simply wouldn't have trained you, most likely.

FieryStarVictory said:
About storage seals and macerators , what if we put the seal on a whip , accelerating it to insane speeds before triggering it , launching its contents absurdly fast.
This is really dangerous for the user but hazou should be able to do it consistently whith Iron Nerve .
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Interesting idea, but you need to have physical contact with a seal in order to activate it. Furthermore, non-Hyūga people can only channel chakra in a useful fashion through their hands and feet. I don't know that the question has come up in the past, but I'm reasonably sure that seals can only be activated with the hands -- the skywalkers had to be explicitly modded-through-research in order to be activatable through chakra adhesion from the feet.
 
So what about a crossbow? Stay with me here. The payload storage seal is set with a 'trigger' storage seal so that it goes off when the space between two trigger seals are interrupted. The two trigger seals are on a set on a frame extending out from the end of the crossbow, so that the 'trigger' will be interrupted by the flight of the quarrel as it emerges from the crossbow. The storage seal is at the tip of the quarrel. You crank the crossbow back, launch the quarrel, and it hits the tigger line and unloads its seal just after the quarrel leaves the crossbow, when it's at maximum velocity.

It's a pretty awkward weapon, but it'll hit like the proverbial freight train.

...also you don't need to be a ninja to use it.
 
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eaglejarl said:
He simply wouldn't have trained you, most likely.


Interesting idea, but you need to have physical contact with a seal in order to activate it. Furthermore, non-Hyūga people can only channel chakra in a useful fashion through their hands and feet. I don't know that the question has come up in the past, but I'm reasonably sure that seals can only be activated with the hands -- the skywalkers had to be explicitly modded-through-research in order to be activatable through chakra adhesion from the feet.
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We already have time-delayed macerators -- the idea is that Hazou knows the exact time they take to fire and can use the Iron Nerve to perfect the use of the whip with it such that he can activate-flick it.
Briefvoice said:
So what about a crossbow? Stay with me here. The payload storage seal is set with a 'trigger' storage seal so that it goes off when the space between two trigger seals are interrupted. The two trigger seals are on a set on a frame extending out from the end of the crossbow, so that the 'trigger' will be interrupted by the flight of the quarrel as it emerges from the crossbow. The storage seal is at the tip of the quarrel. You crank the crossbow back, launch the quarrel, and it hits the tigger line and unloads its seal just after the quarrel leaves the crossbow, when it's at maximum velocity.

It's a pretty awkward weapon, but it'll hit like the proverbial freight train.

...also you don't need to be a ninja to use it.
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Doesn't work. The seal to be activated has to be kept flush against the LBF.
 
If its usefull enough we can think some way to mod the seals to do it (maybe a timer or something, I'll think about it ).
This don't seem the kind of thing that requires really esoteric and complicated research to do , its based on storage seals, and even if the process ends up being really complicated to execute hazou can do it whith his bloodline .
It's also the kind of thing that we would expect to be a low hanging fruit , since someone that doen t have the iron nerve wouldn't be able to do it , and there aren't a lot of kurosawa sealmasters arround .
 
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FieryStarVictory said:
If its usefull enough we can think some way to mod the seals to do it (maybe a timer or something, I'll think about it ).
This don't seem the kind of thing that requires really esoteric and complicated research to do , its based on storage seals, and even if the process ends up being really complicated to execute hazou can do it whith his bloodline .
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Yeah, it's more the specific combination of the observations "Whips move faster than the speed of sound (which is NOT obvious)", "storage seals release their contents at the speed the seal is moving", and "Iron Nerve allows safe replication of the whip movement."
 
Cariyaga said:
We already have time-delayed macerators -- the idea is that Hazou knows the exact time they take to fire and can use the Iron Nerve to perfect the use of the whip with it such that he can activate-flick it.
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I do think it would be a reasonable ruling that even with the Iron Nerve, it's just too tough to reliably get the timing right. Hazou might have to try hundreds of times to get it to work once, and even then Iron Nerve can only repeat it if his body is in the exact same starting position and pose and the whip end goes off at exactly the same place... something unlikely to be achievable in an actual fight where everyone has to be constantly dodging and moving round.
 
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