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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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In the report to the Hokage, in the Goda mission section should make sure to offer minimal details on how we took down the ninja/civilians and should instead be much vaguer than is written I think due to clan secrets. Part of the clan/village setup is explicitly about keeping clan secrets/power separate from the village power structure, so it should be expected that clan OPSEC should be respected even (especially!) in official reports to the Hokage. Although we're lucky in that the Hokage Is also our clan head, the ANBU that are around him when he's acting as Hokage are NOT. If we want to give him all the juicy details including our secret clan technique capabilities, we should do it when he's acting as our clan head in a private location, not when he's in the Hokage office with various village/non-clan people.

Otherwise this is just Mist-Drain Debacle Round 2

Specifically I would remove the "Noburi defeated them in seconds" part as well as the "Kagome et Al arrived after everyone was drained". I would instead say "the team was able to subdue and render the boat's personnel unconscious", this way it doesn't give away Noburi's ability to mass drain.
 
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@faflec

In the report to the Hokage, in the Goda mission section should make sure to offer minimal details on how we took down the ninja/civilians and should instead be much vaguer than is written I think due to clan secrets. Part of the clan/village setup is explicitly about keeping clan secrets/power separate from the village power structure, so it should be expected that clan OPSEC should be respected even (especially!) in official reports to the Hokage. Although we're lucky in that the Hokage Is also our clan head, the ANBU that are around him when he's acting as Hokage are NOT. If we want to give him all the juicy details including our secret clan technique capabilities, we should do it when he's acting as our clan head in a private location, not when he's in the Hokage office with various village/non-clan people.

Otherwise this is just Mist-Drain Debacle Round 2

Specifically I would remove the "Noburi defeated them in seconds" part as well as the "Kagome et Al arrived after everyone was drained". I would instead say "the team was able to subdue and render the boat's personnel unconscious", this way it doesn't give away Noburi's ability to mass drain.
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I did inform Jiraiya that clan secrets could be mentioned, but I can do the reverse and write what you said, and if Jiraiya asks for details say they're clan secrets?

Edit: Done, take a look.
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Scrapped-together plan based on the leftovers of the previous plan. Will add more later.

[X] Action Plan: Dressing Down

  • General:
    • Follow Akane's lead while she's our sub-team leader. Follow Minami's lead after we regroup.
    • Be polite at all times. Especially to people who could make life difficult for us (e.g., Hyuuga, Uchiha).
    • Try to avoid triggering Minami's insecurities.
      • She's team leader, but she inherited a team who treats her as an outsider. Avoid reminding her of this.
    • When moving, minimize chatter in favor of alertness.
  • Main Questline:
    • Report to the Lord Hokage.
        • Be polite and honest. He's the Hokage.
        • Do what the Hokage says. This should go without saying.
        • Let Akane do official reports, since she's the current team leader.
        • Report on the circumstances that let us know of Goda.
          • Bouncer in Ise delivered information on Goda's presence.
        • Report on our plan to capture Goda.
          • 3 Pangolins, Keiko, Noburi to hide in water.
          • Pangolins to provide main threat against possible ninja forces.
          • Team to provide support alongside Pangolins at appropriate ranges.
        • Report on the execution of our plan.
          • Pangolins were able to begin the ambush from stealth, but took a casualty against Goda's bodyguards.
          • Combat suggests the two pangolins engaging the ninja would fail given more time.
          • The team was able to subdue and render the boat's personnel unconscious.
            • If pressed for details, politely inform the Hokage beforehand that clan secrets were involved.
        • Report on the aftermath.
          • Executing civilians.
          • Journey back to Leaf.
        • (Discuss with the team first) Suggest that maybe the captured ninja could be added to the network after the current crisis?
          • Assumptions:
            • They can be useful as contacts/disposable assets.
            • They aren't more useful in other ways (ransom money?).
            • They aren't likely to betray Leaf (to their home country, Yakuza...).
      • Ask if there's anything we can do for him.
        • Because the guy's the Hokage, and he's definitely under a lot of stress.
        • Privately ask Noburi & Akane beforehand if it's OK for us to be asking him now.
        • Do this only after other important topics have been discussed.
        • Don't press the issue.
        • Things to discuss:
          • Rules of engagement.
          • Possible assets/equipment.
          • Methods of contact.
            • Messages, rumors...
            • Provide identification to Hana of Hazou's survival/well-being.
              • Make a seal that plays the Coming Home song?
          • Methods of extraction.
            • Intercept out-of-Mist mission.
            • Sneak into/out of Mist.
      • Get food & weapons as ordered.
        • See if we can get a spyglass or telescope. Ask Mari-sensei if we get the chance to talk with her.
      • Ask Captain Akane if we ought to fully refresh (sleep).
        • Decide if we should sleep in Konoha or back in a Skywalker.
    • Skywalk back to the team.
      • It's a 22 hour run (to Nagi Island, on average). Don't exhaust ourselves with a second all-nighter.
  • Meet Mari-sensei.
    • Do this as we Resupply.
    • Give her a big hug and tell her we missed her.
    • Ask her how things have been going in Konoha.
      • Her befriending of the clan head wives.
      • The political situation.
      • Talk to Noburi & Akane beforehand, make sure they're in agreement. If they say "don't do it", DON'T DO IT.
        • Obviously talk to them privately. Maybe while on the Skywalker, after having dismissed the messenger?
      • Do this in a private setting ONLY. Make sure the anti-spying seals are in full force.
      • Explain the situation.
        • We (Hazou) broke OPSEC regarding clan secrets to Minami.
        • Kagome panicked and tried to kill Minami.
        • We stopped that from happening, and convinced Minami to not report either the clan secret or the murder attempt.
          • Kagome has sworn fealty to Minami, and agreed to share his skills/knowledge to her. And to get therapy.
          • Kagome has also threatened to kill everyone Minami loves if she betrays us.
          • Minami has agreed to downplay the incident (such that Jiraiya wouldn't realize the full gravity of the situation).
      • Ask for advice, and follow it (talk with the team first, obviously).
        • Do we talk with Jiraiya? If so, do we do it ASAP (before we leave) or later on (Summoning Realm/secured room)?
          • What response would Jiraiya have towards Kagome & Minami?
        • Are there legal means (contracts?) of ensuring Minami's silence about this debacle? How would those work?
  • Complete an After-Action Report.
    • Do the report after we regroup with the team, as time permits.
    • Keep in mind Minami still considers us to be the Cold Stone Killers/outsiders.
      • Disguising the use of secret abilities (Pangolins, Mist Drain) so we might not need to kill witnesses.
        • Disguise Pangolins using physical coverings or Henge. Ask Pangolins in future?
        • Apply Misterators first, then Pangolins attack while LOS is blocked with Mist.
      • Timing between the air-team landing and the boat team was off.
        • Not a problem this time, but could have been one if the enemy was stronger.
        • Leave Sodai's Prism with Keiko's team; visual for ambush beginning.
        • Learn Whispers on the Wind, useful for signaling for ambush.
        • Maybe have Panda be part of the air-team and be unsummoned beforehand as a signal?
      • Better knowledge of the Pangolin's personal combat ability for better diagnosis of enemy ninja capabilities.
  • Talk with Noburi about research into quantifying chakra.
    • Talk with him as time permits.
    • Ask him if there has been research into this in the past. If not, continue.
      • Improve combat efficiency.
      • Gives ability for non-sensors to measure their chakra levels.
      • Gives ability for ninja to determine minimum chakra levels to use techniques.
      • Gives ability for ninja to calculate chakra usage during combat (techniques and/or chakra boost).
      • Standardize the "chakra point".
      • Determine amount of chakra used when "chakra boosting" or casting a jutsu.
      • Determine effects of skill on "chakra boosting" or casting a jutsu.
Things to do:
  • Conversation with Keiko re: Pangolins.
  • Conversation with Noburi re: quantifying chakra.
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Did anybody try hard to model the possible reactions Jiraiya might have? We don't know him all that well. I guess that's why we're asking Mari-sensei.
 
Kiba said:
Did anybody try hard to model the possible reactions Jiraiya might have? We don't know him all that well. I guess that's why we're asking Mari-sensei.
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My personal guess is that he'll be somewhat annoyed that it happened, but relieved that the situation is at least not something that requires his immediate attention, is not a complete disaster, and that Kagome has agreed to get some damn therapy.
 
Could we please talk to Mari about the mission? Hazou (and everyone else) really freaking needs someone to talk to about this. Sure, get Jiraiya's permission or whatever, but Hazou needs this or I fear he is going to break.
 
faflec said:
grumble grumble paranoia grumble grumble minami knows things that could fuck shit up grumble grumble
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Given he trusted Minami enough to go with us in the first place, he probably won't be that paranoid about it. If anything it could be turned around into an opportunity to bind Minami and her clan closer to his own political bloc, provided he swings things right.
 
faflec said:
I would be happy to vote for it (assuming it's not something insane like "tell Hyuga Hiashi").
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[jk] Hiashi needs to know.
  • Make our way to the Hyuuga compound, top speed.
    • Our teammates can come along too, but ditch them if they object.
  • Race through the compound until we find Hiashi.
    • If we encounter resistance, punch them in the face.
  • When we find Hiashi, quickly and intensely tell him the Mist Drain situation in excruciating detail.
  • Once we finish, punch him in the face and return to the skytower.
 
Why does everyone hate Hazou's psychological health :(

e: Managing to sleep for two hours after staying up nearly 24 hours running before waking up to a nightmare along with the rest of the team, yep, perfectly mentally healthy.
 
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eaglejarl said:
Think how different the quest would have been if you decided it was too much bother.
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That's almost certainly the position I held the most strongly which I lost. I remember those days. I wasn't trying to destroy the world. They were happy times.

Cariyaga said:
e: Managing to sleep for two hours after staying up nearly 24 hours running before waking up to a nightmare along with the rest of the team, yep, perfectly mentally healthy.
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Also, I'll note that I *think* we slept on watch.
 
Cariyaga said:
Why does everyone hate Hazou's psychological health :(

e: Managing to sleep for two hours after staying up nearly 24 hours running before waking up to a nightmare along with the rest of the team, yep, perfectly mentally healthy.
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I'm not against Hazō getting Mental health help but Leaf has trained professionals. We should talk to them instead of Mari who is pretty fucked up herself

Edit: actually we should ask Jiraiya for a councilor for when we get back
 
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Radvic said:
That's almost certainly the position I held the most strongly which I lost. I remember those days. I wasn't trying to destroy the world. They were happy times.
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You could always use your powers for good! Make batteries! Create medicines!
Oneiros43 said:
I'm not against Hazō getting Mental health help but Leaf has trained professionals. We should talk to them instead of Mari who is pretty fucked up herself
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I don't trust Leaf's mental healthcare professionals with Hazou's head any more than I do with Kagome's.

e: On top of which, I seriously doubt we'd be able to get an appointment with them for all three of the members of our team before we leave.
 
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Cariyaga said:
Why does everyone hate Hazou's psychological health :(

e: Managing to sleep for two hours after staying up nearly 24 hours running before waking up to a nightmare along with the rest of the team, yep, perfectly mentally healthy.
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That's because the hivemind's not perfectly mentally healthy. I mean, look at @Radvic, he's trying to do the opposite of what IC-Hazou wants: blow up reality. There's some serious cognitive dissonance there. :p
Radvic said:
Also, I'll note that I *think* we slept on watch.
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Nah, Akane knew Hazou was asleep for ~2 hours.
 
faflec said:
That's because the hivemind's not perfectly mentally healthy. I mean, look at @Radvic, he's trying to do the exact opposite of what IC-Hazou wants: blow up reality. There's some serious cognitive dissonance there. :p
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So... you don't think that participating (whether he did or not we both know he feels responsible for it) in a massacre would exacerbate this?
 
Cariyaga said:
You could always use your powers for good! Make batteries! Create medicines!

I don't trust Leaf's mental healthcare professionals with Hazou's head any more than I do with Kagome's.

e: On top of which, I seriously doubt we'd be able to get an appointment with them for all three of the members of our team before we leave.
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Why don't you trust them? I'm assuming Jiraiya would vouch for whom ever he assigns us
 
Don't forget that we are keeping a overall goal of a Growth Mindset and keeping the good things we have done in mind.
 
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