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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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faflec said:
OK it looks like we ought to talk with Mari-sensei first, and then Jiraiya? I feel like this is a situation where we ought to take her advice into account, so I'll probably write a thing saying that if she tells us to talk with Jiraiya now we do so and etc. etc..

Also need to figure out where we could go that's secure. Hm.
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Be sure to talk to the teammate that you want to do this. Don't need to piss off your teammate by doing something unilaterally. If one of them says no, don't do it.
 
Added "talking to Mari-sensei". Sorry best girlfriend.
faflec said:
Scrapped-together plan based on the leftovers of the previous plan. Will add more later.

[X] Action Plan: Dressing Down

  • General:
    • Follow Akane's lead while she's our sub-team leader. Follow Minami's lead after we regroup.
    • Be polite at all times. Especially to people who could make life difficult for us (e.g., Hyuuga, Uchiha).
    • Try to avoid triggering Minami's insecurities.
      • She's team leader, but she inherited a team who treats her as an outsider. Avoid reminding her of this.
    • When moving, minimize chatter in favor of alertness.
  • Main Questline:
    • Report to the Lord Hokage.
        • Be polite and honest. He's the Hokage.
        • Do what the Hokage says. This should go without saying.
        • Let Akane do official reports, since she's the current team leader.
        • Politely inform the Hokage beforehand that clan secrets were involved with the Goda mission, and possibly make sure we're secure.
        • Report on the circumstances that let us know of Goda.
          • Bouncer in Ise delivered information on Goda's presence.
        • Report on our plan to capture Goda.
          • 3 Pangolins, Keiko, Noburi to hide in water.
          • Pangolins to provide main threat against possible ninja forces.
          • Noburi to drain all hostiles to unconsciousness.
          • Minami, Hazou, Akane, Keiko, Kagome to provide support alongside Pangolins.
        • Report on the execution of our plan.
          • Pangolins were able to begin the ambush from stealth, but took a casualty against Goda's bodyguards.
          • Combat suggests the two pangolins engaging the ninja would fail given more time.
          • Noburi was able to defeat the ninjas within seconds, as well as the civilians (including Goda).
          • Minami, Hazou, Akane, Kagome did not influence the battle (they arrived after the ninjas were drained).
        • Report on the aftermath.
          • Executing civilians.
          • Journey back to Leaf.
        • (Discuss with the team first) Suggest that maybe the captured ninja could be added to the network after the current crisis?
          • Assumptions:
            • They can be useful as contacts/disposable assets.
            • They aren't more useful in other ways (ransom money?).
            • They aren't likely to betray Leaf (to their home country, Yakuza...).
        • Privately ask Noburi & Akane beforehand if it's OK for us to be asking him now.
        • Do this only after other important topics have been discussed.
        • Don't press the issue.
        • Things to discuss:
          • Rules of engagement.
          • Possible assets/equipment.
          • Methods of contact.
            • Messages, rumors...
            • Provide identification to Hana of Hazou's survival/well-being.
              • Make a seal that plays the Coming Home song?
          • Methods of extraction.
            • Intercept out-of-Mist mission.
            • Sneak into/out of Mist.
      • Get food & weapons as ordered.
        • See if we can get a spyglass or telescope. Ask Mari-sensei if we get the chance to talk with her.
      • Ask Captain Akane if we ought to fully refresh (sleep).
        • Decide if we should sleep in Konoha or back in a Skywalker.
    • Skywalk back to the team.
      • It's a 22 hour run (to Nagi Island, on average). Don't exhaust ourselves with a second all-nighter.
  • Meet Mari-sensei.
    • Do this as we Resupply.
    • Give her a big hug and tell her we missed her.
    • Ask her how things have been going in Konoha.
      • Her befriending of the clan head wives.
      • The political situation.
      • Make sure Noburi & Akane are in agreement. If they say "don't do it", DON'T DO IT.
      • Do this in a private setting ONLY. Make sure the anti-spying seals are in full force.
      • Explain the situation.
        • We (Hazou) broke OPSEC regarding clan secrets to Minami.
        • Kagome panicked and tried to kill Minami.
        • We stopped that from happening, and convinced Minami to not report either the clan secret or the murder attempt.
          • Kagome has agreed to share everything he knows to Minami. And to get therapy.
          • Kagome has also threatened to kill everyone Minami loves if she betrays us.
          • Minami has agreed to downplay the incident (such that Jiraiya wouldn't realize the full gravity of the situation).
      • Ask for advice, and follow it (talk with the team first, obviously).
        • Do we talk with Jiraiya? If so, do we do it ASAP (before we leave) or later on (Summoning Realm/secured room)?
          • What response would Jiraiya have towards Kagome & Minami?
        • Are there legal means (contracts?) of ensuring Minami's silence about this debacle? How would those work?
  • Complete an After-Action Report.
    • Do the report after we regroup with the team, as time permits.
    • Keep in mind Minami still considers us to be the Cold Stone Killers/outsiders.
      • Disguising the use of secret abilities (Pangolins, Mist Drain) so we might not need to kill witnesses.
        • Disguise Pangolins using physical coverings or Henge. Ask Pangolins in future?
        • Apply Misterators first, then Pangolins attack while LOS is blocked with Mist.
      • Timing between the air-team landing and the boat team was off.
        • Not a problem this time, but could have been one if the enemy was stronger.
        • Leave Sodai's Prism with Keiko's team; visual for ambush beginning.
        • Learn Whispers on the Wind, useful for signaling for ambush.
        • Maybe have Panda be part of the air-team and be unsummoned beforehand as a signal?
      • Better knowledge of the Pangolin's personal combat ability for better diagnosis of enemy ninja capabilities.
  • Talk with Noburi about research into quantifying chakra.
    • Talk with him as time permits.
    • Ask him if there has been research into this in the past. If not, continue.
      • Improve combat efficiency.
      • Gives ability for non-sensors to measure their chakra levels.
      • Gives ability for ninja to determine minimum chakra levels to use techniques.
      • Gives ability for ninja to calculate chakra usage during combat (techniques and/or chakra boost).
      • Standardize the "chakra point".
      • Determine amount of chakra used when "chakra boosting" or casting a jutsu.
      • Determine effects of skill on "chakra boosting" or casting a jutsu.
Things to do:
  • Conversation with Keiko re: Pangolins.
  • Conversation with Noburi re: quantifying chakra.
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I think we should just go to see J first.

He's expecting us immediately, running off to see Mari won't look good.

(sorry, wasn't paying attention to the poll)
 
Kiba said:
@faflec Kagome has also swore fealty to Minami.
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Noted.
faflec said:
Scrapped-together plan based on the leftovers of the previous plan. Will add more later.

[X] Action Plan: Dressing Down

  • General:
    • Follow Akane's lead while she's our sub-team leader. Follow Minami's lead after we regroup.
    • Be polite at all times. Especially to people who could make life difficult for us (e.g., Hyuuga, Uchiha).
    • Try to avoid triggering Minami's insecurities.
      • She's team leader, but she inherited a team who treats her as an outsider. Avoid reminding her of this.
    • When moving, minimize chatter in favor of alertness.
  • Main Questline:
    • Report to the Lord Hokage.
        • Be polite and honest. He's the Hokage.
        • Do what the Hokage says. This should go without saying.
        • Let Akane do official reports, since she's the current team leader.
        • Politely inform the Hokage beforehand that clan secrets were involved with the Goda mission, and possibly make sure we're secure.
        • Report on the circumstances that let us know of Goda.
          • Bouncer in Ise delivered information on Goda's presence.
        • Report on our plan to capture Goda.
          • 3 Pangolins, Keiko, Noburi to hide in water.
          • Pangolins to provide main threat against possible ninja forces.
          • Noburi to drain all hostiles to unconsciousness.
          • Minami, Hazou, Akane, Keiko, Kagome to provide support alongside Pangolins.
        • Report on the execution of our plan.
          • Pangolins were able to begin the ambush from stealth, but took a casualty against Goda's bodyguards.
          • Combat suggests the two pangolins engaging the ninja would fail given more time.
          • Noburi was able to defeat the ninjas within seconds, as well as the civilians (including Goda).
          • Minami, Hazou, Akane, Kagome did not influence the battle (they arrived after the ninjas were drained).
        • Report on the aftermath.
          • Executing civilians.
          • Journey back to Leaf.
        • (Discuss with the team first) Suggest that maybe the captured ninja could be added to the network after the current crisis?
          • Assumptions:
            • They can be useful as contacts/disposable assets.
            • They aren't more useful in other ways (ransom money?).
            • They aren't likely to betray Leaf (to their home country, Yakuza...).
        • Privately ask Noburi & Akane beforehand if it's OK for us to be asking him now.
        • Do this only after other important topics have been discussed.
        • Don't press the issue.
        • Things to discuss:
          • Rules of engagement.
          • Possible assets/equipment.
          • Methods of contact.
            • Messages, rumors...
            • Provide identification to Hana of Hazou's survival/well-being.
              • Make a seal that plays the Coming Home song?
          • Methods of extraction.
            • Intercept out-of-Mist mission.
            • Sneak into/out of Mist.
      • Get food & weapons as ordered.
        • See if we can get a spyglass or telescope. Ask Mari-sensei if we get the chance to talk with her.
      • Ask Captain Akane if we ought to fully refresh (sleep).
        • Decide if we should sleep in Konoha or back in a Skywalker.
    • Skywalk back to the team.
      • It's a 22 hour run (to Nagi Island, on average). Don't exhaust ourselves with a second all-nighter.
  • Meet Mari-sensei.
    • Do this as we Resupply.
    • Give her a big hug and tell her we missed her.
    • Ask her how things have been going in Konoha.
      • Her befriending of the clan head wives.
      • The political situation.
      • Make sure Noburi & Akane are in agreement. If they say "don't do it", DON'T DO IT.
      • Do this in a private setting ONLY. Make sure the anti-spying seals are in full force.
      • Explain the situation.
        • We (Hazou) broke OPSEC regarding clan secrets to Minami.
        • Kagome panicked and tried to kill Minami.
        • We stopped that from happening, and convinced Minami to not report either the clan secret or the murder attempt.
          • Kagome has sworn fealty to Minami, and agreed to share his skills/knowledge to her. And to get therapy.
          • Kagome has also threatened to kill everyone Minami loves if she betrays us.
          • Minami has agreed to downplay the incident (such that Jiraiya wouldn't realize the full gravity of the situation).
      • Ask for advice, and follow it (talk with the team first, obviously).
        • Do we talk with Jiraiya? If so, do we do it ASAP (before we leave) or later on (Summoning Realm/secured room)?
          • What response would Jiraiya have towards Kagome & Minami?
        • Are there legal means (contracts?) of ensuring Minami's silence about this debacle? How would those work?
  • Complete an After-Action Report.
    • Do the report after we regroup with the team, as time permits.
    • Keep in mind Minami still considers us to be the Cold Stone Killers/outsiders.
      • Disguising the use of secret abilities (Pangolins, Mist Drain) so we might not need to kill witnesses.
        • Disguise Pangolins using physical coverings or Henge. Ask Pangolins in future?
        • Apply Misterators first, then Pangolins attack while LOS is blocked with Mist.
      • Timing between the air-team landing and the boat team was off.
        • Not a problem this time, but could have been one if the enemy was stronger.
        • Leave Sodai's Prism with Keiko's team; visual for ambush beginning.
        • Learn Whispers on the Wind, useful for signaling for ambush.
        • Maybe have Panda be part of the air-team and be unsummoned beforehand as a signal?
      • Better knowledge of the Pangolin's personal combat ability for better diagnosis of enemy ninja capabilities.
  • Talk with Noburi about research into quantifying chakra.
    • Talk with him as time permits.
    • Ask him if there has been research into this in the past. If not, continue.
      • Improve combat efficiency.
      • Gives ability for non-sensors to measure their chakra levels.
      • Gives ability for ninja to determine minimum chakra levels to use techniques.
      • Gives ability for ninja to calculate chakra usage during combat (techniques and/or chakra boost).
      • Standardize the "chakra point".
      • Determine amount of chakra used when "chakra boosting" or casting a jutsu.
      • Determine effects of skill on "chakra boosting" or casting a jutsu.
Things to do:
  • Conversation with Keiko re: Pangolins.
  • Conversation with Noburi re: quantifying chakra.
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Kiba said:
So, you should specify when and where we talk to Noburi and Akane about this. Also note it might be unfair if other members on the team don't get a say in this.
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Done, and we don't have much of a choice if we want to talk with her.
Adhoc vote count started by faflec on Jul 11, 2017 at 8:11 PM, finished with 347 posts and 11 votes.
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Hmmm... I think we might just want to be upfront with J on thinking about it. Remember that he's our clan's head, and he's expended a lot of political capital making us his clan. I think from a clan perspective we're obligated to just tell him, rather than pussyfoot around it.

That's not to say we can't put it in the best light possible - Kagome is less likely to do something stupid, and has agreed to therapy. So there's a significant silver lining there.
 
The current plan is below. Please make suggestions in the next 3-4 hours, because I'm not staying up all night to make edits.

Also, to those of you who aren't agreeing with how this plan is handling the Mist Drain Debacle, please write an alternative plan using mine as a base. I would be happy to vote for it (assuming it's not something insane like "tell Hyuga Hiashi").
faflec said:
Scrapped-together plan based on the leftovers of the previous plan. Will add more later.

[X] Action Plan: Dressing Down

  • General:
    • Follow Akane's lead while she's our sub-team leader. Follow Minami's lead after we regroup.
    • Be polite at all times. Especially to people who could make life difficult for us (e.g., Hyuuga, Uchiha).
    • Try to avoid triggering Minami's insecurities.
      • She's team leader, but she inherited a team who treats her as an outsider. Avoid reminding her of this.
    • When moving, minimize chatter in favor of alertness.
  • Main Questline:
    • Report to the Lord Hokage.
        • Be polite and honest. He's the Hokage.
        • Do what the Hokage says. This should go without saying.
        • Let Akane do official reports, since she's the current team leader.
        • Politely inform the Hokage beforehand that clan secrets were involved with the Goda mission, and possibly make sure we're secure.
        • Report on the circumstances that let us know of Goda.
          • Bouncer in Ise delivered information on Goda's presence.
        • Report on our plan to capture Goda.
          • 3 Pangolins, Keiko, Noburi to hide in water.
          • Pangolins to provide main threat against possible ninja forces.
          • Noburi to drain all hostiles to unconsciousness.
          • Minami, Hazou, Akane, Keiko, Kagome to provide support alongside Pangolins.
        • Report on the execution of our plan.
          • Pangolins were able to begin the ambush from stealth, but took a casualty against Goda's bodyguards.
          • Combat suggests the two pangolins engaging the ninja would fail given more time.
          • Noburi was able to defeat the ninjas within seconds, as well as the civilians (including Goda).
          • Minami, Hazou, Akane, Kagome did not influence the battle (they arrived after the ninjas were drained).
        • Report on the aftermath.
          • Executing civilians.
          • Journey back to Leaf.
        • (Discuss with the team first) Suggest that maybe the captured ninja could be added to the network after the current crisis?
          • Assumptions:
            • They can be useful as contacts/disposable assets.
            • They aren't more useful in other ways (ransom money?).
            • They aren't likely to betray Leaf (to their home country, Yakuza...).
        • Privately ask Noburi & Akane beforehand if it's OK for us to be asking him now.
        • Do this only after other important topics have been discussed.
        • Don't press the issue.
        • Things to discuss:
          • Rules of engagement.
          • Possible assets/equipment.
          • Methods of contact.
            • Messages, rumors...
            • Provide identification to Hana of Hazou's survival/well-being.
              • Make a seal that plays the Coming Home song?
          • Methods of extraction.
            • Intercept out-of-Mist mission.
            • Sneak into/out of Mist.
      • Get food & weapons as ordered.
        • See if we can get a spyglass or telescope. Ask Mari-sensei if we get the chance to talk with her.
      • Ask Captain Akane if we ought to fully refresh (sleep).
        • Decide if we should sleep in Konoha or back in a Skywalker.
    • Skywalk back to the team.
      • It's a 22 hour run (to Nagi Island, on average). Don't exhaust ourselves with a second all-nighter.
  • Meet Mari-sensei.
    • Do this as we Resupply.
    • Give her a big hug and tell her we missed her.
    • Ask her how things have been going in Konoha.
      • Her befriending of the clan head wives.
      • The political situation.
      • Talk to Noburi & Akane beforehand, make sure they're in agreement. If they say "don't do it", DON'T DO IT.
        • Obviously talk to them privately. Maybe while on the Skywalker, after having dismissed the messenger?
      • Do this in a private setting ONLY. Make sure the anti-spying seals are in full force.
      • Explain the situation.
        • We (Hazou) broke OPSEC regarding clan secrets to Minami.
        • Kagome panicked and tried to kill Minami.
        • We stopped that from happening, and convinced Minami to not report either the clan secret or the murder attempt.
          • Kagome has sworn fealty to Minami, and agreed to share his skills/knowledge to her. And to get therapy.
          • Kagome has also threatened to kill everyone Minami loves if she betrays us.
          • Minami has agreed to downplay the incident (such that Jiraiya wouldn't realize the full gravity of the situation).
      • Ask for advice, and follow it (talk with the team first, obviously).
        • Do we talk with Jiraiya? If so, do we do it ASAP (before we leave) or later on (Summoning Realm/secured room)?
          • What response would Jiraiya have towards Kagome & Minami?
        • Are there legal means (contracts?) of ensuring Minami's silence about this debacle? How would those work?
  • Complete an After-Action Report.
    • Do the report after we regroup with the team, as time permits.
    • Keep in mind Minami still considers us to be the Cold Stone Killers/outsiders.
      • Disguising the use of secret abilities (Pangolins, Mist Drain) so we might not need to kill witnesses.
        • Disguise Pangolins using physical coverings or Henge. Ask Pangolins in future?
        • Apply Misterators first, then Pangolins attack while LOS is blocked with Mist.
      • Timing between the air-team landing and the boat team was off.
        • Not a problem this time, but could have been one if the enemy was stronger.
        • Leave Sodai's Prism with Keiko's team; visual for ambush beginning.
        • Learn Whispers on the Wind, useful for signaling for ambush.
        • Maybe have Panda be part of the air-team and be unsummoned beforehand as a signal?
      • Better knowledge of the Pangolin's personal combat ability for better diagnosis of enemy ninja capabilities.
  • Talk with Noburi about research into quantifying chakra.
    • Talk with him as time permits.
    • Ask him if there has been research into this in the past. If not, continue.
      • Improve combat efficiency.
      • Gives ability for non-sensors to measure their chakra levels.
      • Gives ability for ninja to determine minimum chakra levels to use techniques.
      • Gives ability for ninja to calculate chakra usage during combat (techniques and/or chakra boost).
      • Standardize the "chakra point".
      • Determine amount of chakra used when "chakra boosting" or casting a jutsu.
      • Determine effects of skill on "chakra boosting" or casting a jutsu.
Things to do:
  • Conversation with Keiko re: Pangolins.
  • Conversation with Noburi re: quantifying chakra.
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@faflec would you mind adding a section about asking Jiraiya if there's anything we can do for him outside the mission? Even if it's just to let him vent?
 
huhYeahGoodPoint said:
@faflec would you mind adding a section about asking Jiraiya if there's anything we can do for him outside the mission? Even if it's just to let him vent?
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I am slightly worried about the fact that @eaglejarl liked your post...but...

It's two lines, not going to quote the whole plan.
  • Ask if there's anything we can do for him.
    • Because the guy's the Hokage, and he's definitely under a lot of stress.
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