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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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PoptartProdigy said:
Ah, gotcha.

In that case, having exhausted all plans on page 2525 -- and being quite exhausted myself -- I will throw in the towel and go to bed. @faflec has my support once more. :D
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Aghaghag wait wait wait

Do you have thoughts on how to do your first though? I was thinking about working like your former suggestion (afterthought) but acting distraught, like we understand the necessity of the act but hated doing it.
 
Can part of the plan include asking for critique on what our team did as a whole to bring back to the rest of Team Rockfall actual? He has been in the game for a long time so he could give us pointers on how we could approach a situation and do proper misdirection for OPSEC.
 
faflec said:
Aghaghag wait wait wait

Do you have thoughts on how to do your first though? I was thinking about working like your former suggestion (afterthought) but acting distraught, like we understand the necessity of the act but hated doing it.
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Still here! I would recommend against staging our reaction in any way. This is Jiraiya; I'm not sure it's possible for us to successfully lie to or mislead him. If we present it as an afterthought, I think we should just drop the matter entirely, without framing it at all.

Now, if Jiraiya asks us, I'd be in favor of adding us going to, "be frank and honest." Maybe that could be a sub-vote under, "afterthought?"

In short, don't blow smoke up the ass of the Hokage with the godly social skills. Either refrain from presenting an opinion or present one openly and honestly. Don't try to act to this man; we'd just be insulting him.
 
PoptartProdigy said:
Still here! I would recommend against staging our reaction in any way. This is Jiraiya; I'm not sure it's possible for us to successfully lie to or mislead him. If we present it as an afterthought, I think we should just drop the matter entirely, without framing it at all.

Now, if Jiraiya asks us, I'd be in favor of adding us going to, "be frank and honest." Maybe that could be a sub-vote under, "afterthought?"

In short, don't blow smoke up the ass of the Hokage with the godly social skills. Either refrain from presenting an opinion or present one openly and honestly. Don't try to act to this man; we'd just be insulting him.
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Staging? Nonono I feel this would be Hazou's genuine reaction: he understands why but still hates it, and his physical response would be to remain calm in the face of the Hokage but still give away tells of distress.

And if I were Jiraiya I'd honestly be a bit disappointed that his clan kid doesn't seem to GAF about 60 dead civilians, after having a speech to Jiraiya about making the world a place where that didn't happen.
 
@faflec , If you haven't commited sudoku by this point AND if we talk to Mari-sensai, can we tell her that we need her and that she was absoultely wrong about us not needing her. I don't want to guilt trip her, but she was so dead wrong it's not funny anymore.
 
faflec said:
Staging? Nonono I feel this would be Hazou's genuine reaction: he understands why but still hates it, and his physical response would be to remain calm in the face of the Hokage but still give away tells of distress.

And if I were Jiraiya I'd honestly be a bit disappointed that his clan kid doesn't seem to GAF about 60 dead civilians, after having a speech to Jiraiya about making the world a place where that didn't happen.
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Aha. Gotcha. In that case, I'd just leave it up to Hazou. I'm sure we can trust him to fail to conceal that reaction. Putting in the vote makes it smell like staging, at least to me.
 
ContextBot said:
@faflec , If you haven't commited sudoku by this point AND if we talk to Mari-sensai, can we tell her that we need her and that she was absoultely wrong about us not needing her. I don't want to guilt trip her, but she was so dead wrong it's not funny anymore.
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Meh, we're doing fine all things considered. Nobody died.

And honestly, Mari deserves her retirement at this point.
PoptartProdigy said:
Aha. Gotcha. In that case, I'd just leave it up to Hazou. I'm sure we can trust him to fail to conceal that reaction. Putting in the vote makes it smell like staging, at least to me.
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How about:
  • Report on the aftermath.
    • Executing civilians.
      • Don't be callous about it, but also don't turn into an emotional wreck.
    • Journey back to Leaf.
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Maybe this would work?
 
PoptartProdigy said:
That actually looks perfect. Frames the result we want and leaves implementation up to Hazou himself. I'm down for it.
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Cool beans.

Anyone have objections you have...well if you had objections you would have said them by now. :p
faflec said:
Scrapped-together plan based on the leftovers of the previous plan. Will add more later.

[X] Action Plan: Dressing Down

  • General:
    • Follow Akane's lead while she's our sub-team leader. Follow Minami's lead after we regroup.
    • Be polite at all times. Especially to people who could make life difficult for us (e.g., Hyuuga, Uchiha).
    • Try to avoid triggering Minami's insecurities.
      • She's team leader, but she inherited a team who treats her as an outsider. Avoid reminding her of this.
    • When moving, minimize chatter in favor of alertness.
  • Main Questline:
    • Report to the Lord Hokage.
        • Be polite and honest. He's the Hokage.
        • Do what the Hokage says. This should go without saying.
        • Let Akane do official reports, since she's the current team leader.
        • Report on the circumstances that let us know of Goda.
          • Bouncer in Ise delivered information on Goda's presence.
        • Report on our plan to capture Goda.
          • 3 Pangolins, Keiko, Noburi to hide in water.
          • Pangolins to provide main threat against possible ninja forces.
          • Team to provide support alongside Pangolins at appropriate ranges.
        • Report on the execution of our plan.
          • Pangolins were able to begin the ambush from stealth, but took a casualty against Goda's bodyguards.
          • Combat suggests the two pangolins engaging the ninja would fail given more time.
          • The team was able to subdue and render the boat's personnel unconscious.
            • If pressed for details, politely inform the Hokage beforehand that clan secrets were involved.
        • Report on the aftermath.
          • Executing civilians.
            • Don't be callous about it, but also don't turn into an emotional wreck.
          • Journey back to Leaf.
        • (Discuss with the team first) Suggest that maybe the captured ninja could be added to the network after the current crisis?
          • Assumptions:
            • They can be useful as contacts/disposable assets.
            • They aren't more useful in other ways (ransom money?).
            • They aren't likely to betray Leaf (to their home country, Yakuza...).
      • Ask if there's anything we can do for him.
        • Because the guy's the Hokage, and he's definitely under a lot of stress.
        • Privately ask Noburi & Akane beforehand if it's OK for us to be asking him now.
        • Do this only after other important topics have been discussed.
        • Don't press the issue.
        • Things to discuss:
          • Rules of engagement.
          • Possible assets/equipment.
          • Methods of contact.
            • Messages, rumors...
            • Provide identification to Hana of Hazou's survival/well-being.
              • Make a seal that plays the Coming Home song?
          • Methods of extraction.
            • Intercept out-of-Mist mission.
            • Sneak into/out of Mist.
      • Get food & weapons as ordered.
        • See if we can get a spyglass or telescope. Ask Mari-sensei if we get the chance to talk with her.
      • Ask Captain Akane if we ought to fully refresh (sleep).
        • Decide if we should sleep in Konoha or back in a Skytower.
    • Skywalk back to the team.
      • It's a 22 hour run (to Nagi Island, on average). Don't exhaust ourselves with a second all-nighter.
  • Meet Mari-sensei.
    • Do this as we Resupply.
    • Give her a big hug and tell her we missed her.
    • Ask her how things have been going in Konoha.
      • Her befriending of the clan head wives.
      • The political situation.
      • Talk to Noburi & Akane beforehand, make sure they're in agreement. If they say "don't do it", DON'T DO IT.
        • Obviously talk to them privately. Maybe while on the Skytower, after having dismissed the messenger?
      • Do this in a private setting ONLY. Make sure the anti-spying seals are in full force.
      • Explain the situation.
        • We (Hazou) broke OPSEC regarding clan secrets to Minami.
        • Kagome panicked and tried to kill Minami.
        • We stopped that from happening, and convinced Minami to not report either the clan secret or the murder attempt.
          • Kagome has sworn fealty to Minami, and agreed to share his skills/knowledge to her. And to get therapy.
          • Kagome has also threatened to kill everyone Minami loves if she betrays us.
          • Minami has agreed to downplay the incident (such that Jiraiya wouldn't realize the full gravity of the situation).
      • Ask for advice, and follow it (talk with the team first, obviously).
        • Do we talk with Jiraiya? If so, do we do it ASAP (before we leave) or later on (Summoning Realm/secured room)?
          • What response would Jiraiya have towards Kagome & Minami?
        • Are there legal means (contracts?) of ensuring Minami's silence about this debacle? How would those work?
  • Complete an After-Action Report.
    • Do the report after we regroup with the team, as time permits.
    • Keep in mind Minami still considers us to be the Cold Stone Killers/outsiders.
      • Disguising the use of secret abilities (Pangolins, Mist Drain) so we might not need to kill witnesses.
        • Disguise Pangolins using physical coverings or Henge. Ask Pangolins in future?
        • Apply Misterators first, then Pangolins attack while LOS is blocked with Mist.
      • Timing between the air-team landing and the boat team was off.
        • Not a problem this time, but could have been one if the enemy was stronger.
        • Leave Sodai's Prism with Keiko's team; visual for ambush beginning.
        • Learn Whispers on the Wind, useful for signaling for ambush.
        • Maybe have Panda be part of the air-team and be unsummoned beforehand as a signal?
      • Better knowledge of the Pangolin's personal combat ability for better diagnosis of enemy ninja capabilities.
  • Talk with Noburi about research into quantifying chakra.
    • Talk with him as time permits.
    • Ask him if there has been research into this in the past. If not, continue.
      • Improve combat efficiency.
      • Gives ability for non-sensors to measure their chakra levels.
      • Gives ability for ninja to determine minimum chakra levels to use techniques.
      • Gives ability for ninja to calculate chakra usage during combat (techniques and/or chakra boost).
      • Standardize the "chakra point".
      • Determine amount of chakra used when "chakra boosting" or casting a jutsu.
      • Determine effects of skill on "chakra boosting" or casting a jutsu.
Things to do:
  • Conversation with Keiko re: Pangolins.
  • Conversation with Noburi re: quantifying chakra.
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[X] Action Plan: Dressing Down

Yep, faflec is the [pronoun for indecipherable eldritch abomination].
 
Inferno Vulpix said:
[jk] Hiashi needs to know.
  • Make our way to the Hyuuga compound, top speed.
    • Our teammates can come along too, but ditch them if they object.
  • Race through the compound until we find Hiashi.
    • If we encounter resistance, punch them in the face.
  • When we find Hiashi, quickly and intensely tell him the Mist Drain situation in excruciating detail.
  • Once we finish, punch him in the face and return to the skytower.
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I will literally pay you (in XP) to do this, but only if you do it for one of my updates. 1 XP just for getting the vote passed and (if you survive, which you should hope you don't because the alternatives are worse), 7XP per day.

I should probably point out that the only way this could plausibly happen is for Hazō to suffer a complete and permanent psychotic break, at which point I'm justified in writing him doing anything. Still, it would be hilarious, and so much fun to write. It would probably be quest-ending and you really shouldn't do it, but what a way to go out.


Radvic said:
Also, I'll note that I *think* we slept on watch.
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You did not. You were awake for your watch, then went to sleep afterwards and slept for two hours.

Oneiros43 said:
[x] action plan: mental health

Follow action plan dressing down but talk about the Goda mission with Mari. Also ask Jiraiya about getting a councilor for after the mission
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It's totally cool to make plans like this, but could you include a link to the original as well? Makes it easier for the poor QM who has to figure out what's actually been voted in.

faflec said:
>faflec

>smart

Pick one.
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I pick @faflec, and then I pick smart. Give yourself some credit, buddy. Also, major kudos for the plan-making and -editing that you've been doing. Thanks for stepping up.


And now, a (very lightly edited) quote from @Velorien in GM chat:
Velorien in GM chat said:
faflec is asking what Noburi and Akane think Keiko would think about consulting Mari about the Kagome situation. I suggest the following:

Akane thinks that Keiko would agree with her, emphasising the danger of antagonising the Hokage (by going behind his back) in a context where they will want as much of his goodwill as possible, as well as potentially undermining his trust in Mari in a way that will come back to bite them further down the line. Noburi thinks that Keiko would agree with him, emphasising Mari's vast expertise and potential to influence Jiraiya in light of the need to make use of every resource at their disposal.
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I concur with this.
 
eaglejarl said:
I will literally pay you (in XP) to do this, but only if you do it for one of my updates. 1 XP just for getting the vote passed and (if you survive, which you should hope you don't because the alternatives are worse), 7XP per day.

I should probably point out that the only way this could plausibly happen is for Hazō to suffer a complete and permanent psychotic break, at which point I'm justified in writing him doing anything. Still, it would be hilarious, and so much fun to write. It would probably be quest-ending and you really shouldn't do it, but what a way to go out.
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Time to work on creating a seal to directly interface with us the players.

faflec said:
Would you object if I said to do it in his office (assuming we've asked for the place to be security'd)?
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No, I just feel that it would be better to do so in the context of him as our clan leader than our hokage, and at dinner means Mari's present to run interference.
 
Cariyaga said:
No, I just feel that it would be better to do so in the context of him as our clan leader than our hokage, and at dinner means Mari's present to run interference.
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Will there even be dinner, though?
Adhoc vote count started by faflec on Jul 12, 2017 at 1:38 AM, finished with 428 posts and 13 votes.
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