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Problem is, there's no safe way to dispose of such a map after the crisis has passed.
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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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Does Hazou think that his Out-senses refined by sneaking around the Dragons so often would meaningfully help detect the Dragons if they attacked while the Bosses et al. are still preparing?
[X] Action Plan: The DRAGONWAR
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Does Hazou think that his Out-senses refined by sneaking around the Dragons so often would meaningfully help detect the Dragons if they attacked while the Bosses et al. are still preparing?
[X] Action Plan: The DRAGONWAR
Word Count: 299
- Sanity check all with Mari/Kei
- Preparations for Dragonwar
- Noburi: you can probably pull Gamabunta/Ma/Pa out via Summoning if they're injured. Can we use this?
- Same for other Leaf Summoners Ruri/Aika if especially with overcharge
- Explain Orochimaru's strategy to Kei, and have her consult the FS for optimization.
- Suggest giving Hornets misterators full of dyed water or Party Tricks to make the Mirror Dragon more visible.
- Similarly, aim drones at the Night Dragon carrying a net with low-powered Earbusters or Chime seals. That way the combatants can at least hear it coming.
- Meet with Enma/Cannai on Kamehameha
- Inform them of Itachi's jutsu-stealing capabilities
- Ask them if the Bosses claiming small parts of Arachnid would meaningfully support the DRAGONWAR. Clan Bosses are incredibly powerful on their territory
- Hazou knows this is a huge ask, he wants to confirm it would be materially useful before taking it to Kumokugo
- He isn't asking for more details about the process, just wants confirmation this is a good idea
- The other Bosses would swear the territory would be returned afterwards.
- If viable, bring it to Kumokugo. Optimize that meeting with Mari and Kagome.
- Ask Kagome to ensure there are sufficient skyslicers in Arachnid
- Orochimaru:
- Jiraiya had darkness domes. Is there a portable version we could give to the Hornets with instructions to fly at the Beautiful Dragon? Other sensory deprivation seals could help reduce its attack vectors too.
- Look for other sensory-deprivation seals from the Tower/Kagome
- Get his feedback on the ideas to arm Hornet Drones with seals
- Apologize for the presumptuousness, but suggest that since the Shifter Dragon is always looking, it might be a good target for mental attacks (like those cannibal seals).
- Jiraiya had darkness domes. Is there a portable version we could give to the Hornets with instructions to fly at the Beautiful Dragon? Other sensory deprivation seals could help reduce its attack vectors too.
- Noburi: you can probably pull Gamabunta/Ma/Pa out via Summoning if they're injured. Can we use this?
- DRAGONWAR
- Stay out of the way, but be prepared to support as needed
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Yeeeahhhh. Best I can suggest is to laminate it and turn it over to a trusted extremely uninvolved clan(Slug Queen) and protect it with FSB and the like.
Then make it their sacred duty to protect this new ticking time bomb. In a thousand years, some other poor fuck will have to raise Catrography Restoration to 60 to save the 7th path.
Thus, we
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Can we specifically put Noburi in charge of this? Having your summoner train other bosses looks good for the toads, and he really needs more clout with the toads.
I have no objection to this.
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...huh. Is it possible the Great Seal already IS, in some esoteric sense, a map of the Seventh Path?
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I think cutting all ranks of ninja in half is actually pretty pessimistic here. One of the elements of ninja demographics is that turnover is extremely high, which means big meatgrinder but also that losses replenish pretty quickly, especially at the lower levels. Our Jounin population plummeted due to the various disasters and likely hasn't recovered much. The chuunin population was gutted but should still have seen a sizeable amount of recovery. The genin population recovers extremely quickly from any and all damage.
The last major manpower drain Leaf had was WWIV, which ended about a year ago. IIRC we've heard that the upper ranks were disproportionately affected by the war, with the genin population not as devastated as the chuunin or jounin populations. Other crises like the Collapse happened at least a year before the war, so in all odds they have negligible impact on the genin population by now even if the upper ranks are still hurting. Between that and their quick replenishment, I'd probably peg the genin population about 80-90% of their stable state, so 1200 x 150 x 0.85 = 153,000 chakra, give or take ten thousand or so. Your chuunin and jounin figures are more reasonable, but due to their lower populations bikeshedding about the exact current sizes probably doesn't affect the outcome that much. Taking your figures of 37,500 and 17,250 chakra and we reach a total of 207,750 chakra, which we can round to "about 200,000" for simplicity. Even accounting for how many ninja are off on mission at any given moment, I figure this probably gives us enough leeway to supply the Sannin with sufficient chakra for their clones.
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That's a fair stance, though if we're looking at explicitly the new ranks of graduates, we should lower the expected chakra from each genin. 15 is a high estimate for optimisms sake - keeping it when introducing a new variable seems a mistake. Recalcing with a more reasonable 12.5 average puts us at 1,200 × 125 × .85 = 127,500.
End total of around 175k chakra in Leaf, with absurdly high average reserves chūnin and Jōnin.
On the other side, how many clans got hit in the collapse? The clanless have been doing better than ever, but a significant portion of the ninja forces, including the power base that makes more ninja forces, has been damaged in the past several years.
See I don't know, I really don't like it when I calculate we're planning on using at least half of the very optimistically calculated chakra in Leaf. That makes me think if we're planning pessimisticically at all, there's no way in hell we have enough chakra.
Can you add the weaponized map/territory discussion, or explain to my satisfaction why you chose not to? If so, I'd vote for this plan.
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Well, if it's any consolation, the fail-state if there isn't enough chakra is "there are actually only 18 Orochimarus and Tsunades" instead of the whole idea failing to work. Functionally speaking, it might be easier to model the situation as "they create as many clones as Leaf can supply chakra for" and leave whether that's 15 or 20 or whatnot to the QMs and their final say on how much chakra is currently within Leaf right now.
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If I may ask, is there anything about jumps in velocity if you tear the inertia increasing seal off of an object it's been applied to in the notes or a moving object slowing down immediately if it is applied? Or from theory, do we have any idea if we would get some sort of conservation of momentum?
If I may ask, is there anything about jumps in velocity if you tear the inertia increasing seal off of an object it's been applied to in the notes or a moving object slowing down immediately if it is applied? Or from theory, do we have any idea if we would get some sort of conservation of momentum?
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I think the only potential answer there is to try it and find out.
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The last seal in the chain, the jinchuuriki seal, is longer than the others, so let's say it took two days instead of one to keep the SC XP rate constant at 0.4x. Added at that rate.
Update too short for SC training. Also, no need to include stagnancy, and in fact preferably don't.
Added.
Short cycle, no discussion. Let's lore it up
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[X] Action Plan: The DRAGONWAR
[x] Training Plan (Kei): Donning an Essie's Cloak
[x] Training Plan (Noburi): Combat Capstone Movement and Ninjutsu Empowerment
[x] Training Plan (Kei): Donning an Essie's Cloak
[x] Training Plan (Noburi): Combat Capstone Movement and Ninjutsu Empowerment
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- He/Him
Got some time so let me take a look
Other ideas:
- The reflection Dragon is hard to see if it isn't near the ground or clouds to reflect. Do you think we could use those party trick seals from the Conclave entry to create some effects that will then reflect off of it? Alternatively, hornets can fly around with misterators full of dyed water.
- Ruri (Condor Summoner) and Aika (porc Summoner) are seasoned jonin that can both probably summon their bosses too (especially with Noburi 50% overcharge) to get them out of danger.
- The Shifter Dragon that always seems to be looking at you would be a good target for mental attacks that target the eyes if anyone has any (though Hazou knows the difficulty of using genjutsu on unconventional targets.)
- See if Oro or Leaf has any darkness-dome type seals, have fodder hornets fly at the beautiful dragon and climb on.
- Similarly, have some hornets or other flyers fly at the night dragon and (do their best) to climb on with low-power banshees or long duration chime seals. It may be easier to string some spider silk between them and attach the seals there instead so if they fly past it the string might still catch
Meme idea:
- Oro uses a Cannibal Seal on the Dragon that always looks at you. They're already hungry for flesh but maybe we can make them attack each other
EDIT: it occurs to me that the hornets climbing on to the night and beautiful Dragons may need some lil booties to prevent their feet from melting immediately. I'd say just fly close to the beautiful dragon but they're gonna be blinded by the domes so probably can't just float nearby (they can be led by sighted hornets to get there though)
EDIT EDIT: darkness dome type seals need to be able to move, needs to be part of the request
EDIT EDIT EDIT: though, even imperfectly obscuring the beautiful dragon is probably good enough while handling the others first so if the hornets don't quite make the landing or cover the whole thing that's probably OK
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"Of course" can be cut probably if WC becomes tight
I'd also add the bosses can swear ahead of time to return the territory ceded for this battle to ensure they cooperate
Other ideas:
- The reflection Dragon is hard to see if it isn't near the ground or clouds to reflect. Do you think we could use those party trick seals from the Conclave entry to create some effects that will then reflect off of it? Alternatively, hornets can fly around with misterators full of dyed water.
- Ruri (Condor Summoner) and Aika (porc Summoner) are seasoned jonin that can both probably summon their bosses too (especially with Noburi 50% overcharge) to get them out of danger.
- The Shifter Dragon that always seems to be looking at you would be a good target for mental attacks that target the eyes if anyone has any (though Hazou knows the difficulty of using genjutsu on unconventional targets.)
- See if Oro or Leaf has any darkness-dome type seals, have fodder hornets fly at the beautiful dragon and climb on.
- Similarly, have some hornets or other flyers fly at the night dragon and (do their best) to climb on with low-power banshees or long duration chime seals. It may be easier to string some spider silk between them and attach the seals there instead so if they fly past it the string might still catch
Meme idea:
- Oro uses a Cannibal Seal on the Dragon that always looks at you. They're already hungry for flesh but maybe we can make them attack each other
EDIT: it occurs to me that the hornets climbing on to the night and beautiful Dragons may need some lil booties to prevent their feet from melting immediately. I'd say just fly close to the beautiful dragon but they're gonna be blinded by the domes so probably can't just float nearby (they can be led by sighted hornets to get there though)
EDIT EDIT: darkness dome type seals need to be able to move, needs to be part of the request
EDIT EDIT EDIT: though, even imperfectly obscuring the beautiful dragon is probably good enough while handling the others first so if the hornets don't quite make the landing or cover the whole thing that's probably OK
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I will take a look in a couple hours. Thanks for the suggestions
- Kisame to brief everyone on powers Dragons may have gained from eating Sharks.
- Smell?
- Dragonfire destroys skyslicers.
- Bait it out before they get close to Crusade?
- Set up skyslicer traps so Dragons fly into them side on.
- Take care of being tackled into skyslicers.
- If the Dragons are from the time of the Sage, they might react to things with traces of the Sage.
- Last ditch plan to try communicating with them.
- What can Orochimaru do from below the butte?
- Traps?
- Can he protect the Great Seal from damage if we do an alphastrike on the butte?
- Expect more than 5 Dragons.
- Test Dragon weakness, immunity with wide, long range attacks.